Dont use Wave Bird while online

[Hero of Time]

I didn`t see a topic on this. I am sorry if there was one. But just to tell everyone who plays online or is planning to go online don use your Wave Bird. People can pick up your signal. So that would be bad if a hacker picked it up.

[PSOXtreme]

Yeah, there are countless warnings too. But, this is the reason why the give out the warning. (well, its the only reason I can think of)

If someone nearby is using PSO and a wavebird set to the same frequency, and you are on the same screen as them, whatever they do will be done to your game. So you can literally have them type in all of their info.

However, maybe is it also possible for some signal to be picked up online somehow? Im not really sure. :?

[Mr Crono]

Im using a wavebird right now....

<_<
>_>

[armion]

I do not think there is any harm in using it online. When entering information however, yes, be careful. Your information can be intercepted then.

[PSOXtreme]

I do not think there is any harm in using it online. When entering information however, yes, be careful. Your information can be intercepted then.|

No, you're right. Nothing bad when playing the game itself online. Just like armion said, personal information is something you wanna watch out for.

[Hero of Time]

Well I just use my regular controler to be safe.

[Mr Crono]

I normally would use my normal controller (I prefer the rumble) but my bed is rather far from my television. However I am planning to purchase a "gaming chair", or a cheap chair I can put closer to my tv...

[Hero of Time]

I most of the time just drag a chair by my TV or seat on the floor.

[Branskins]

No one in my neighborhood even has gamecube, so I do not think I am in trouble.

[Linkooseven]

Yeah...i'm the only kid in my neighborhood that plays PSO online...hell if it wasnt for me getting PSO Ver.1 and 2 back in 7th grade no one would've even HEARD of PSO around here.

[Hero of Time]

Well I am not sure if me and my friends are the only ones who play PSO. We went to out gamestop and they were sold out.

[adri]

ok guys here is a bit of info for u. the wavebird is just like a remote, that u use to turn on ur TV, but for the GC. its just wireless & in only has a range of about 40 feet from ur GC. the only resone or prob i can see with useing it online is that if, someone was useing a wavebird or remote on the same channel as u. but as for a hacker getting ur signal online. its just not posable. (less he in the next room of ur house with anther GC stalking u & w8 for u to make the right move lol)

[Hero of Time]

Hmmmmm. You might be right about that. I am not sure who to believe you or my friends.

[Branskins]

But Sega has to put that warning JUST in case it does happen.
~Branskins

[Hero of Time]

I wonder if it already has happened to someone online? Well if I find a person who has it I am going to ask them about it then post back here.

[Skorpius]

:l wavebird has a range...and unless the "hacker" is outside your window, i doubt theyll pick up your signal

btw: ascii > all other controllers

[armion]

Your friend's thinking in the right direction, but is exaggerating quite a bit. The risk with Wavebird and PSO is the same with any other game with the Wavebird. The only things that can happen during gameplay is interference. It is suggested that you do not use the Wavebird or any other wireless controller, while entering personal information including but not limited to Credit Card information, ip addresses, phone number, address, age, and identification numbers. As for doing anything to your game, unless they have another wavebird in range, and feeling mischeavious, they can't do anything. Easily solved by switching the frequency.

[(O_o)]

ok guys here is a bit of info for u. the wavebird is just like a remote, that u use to turn on ur TV, but for the GC. its just wireless & in only has a range of about 40 feet from ur GC. the only resone or prob i can see with useing it online is that if, someone was useing a wavebird or remote on the same channel as u. but as for a hacker getting ur signal online. its just not posable. (less he in the next room of ur house with anther GC stalking u & w8 for u to make the right move lol)

Actually, the Wavebird isn't quite like a TV remote. Most TV remotes use infared (I know I spelled that wrong...) signals, whileWavebirds use Radio signals. Also, people have reported using Wavebirds 90+ feet from the Gamecube. Also, it's possible to use Wavebirds from behind the receiver. I should know, I won a Soul Calibur 2 tournament match by playing with a Wavebird, while standing behind the Gamecube, in the store next door!

[Hero of Time]

Hmmmmm this topic is getting interestiong. I will have to tell my friends all of this.

[Linkooseven]

I think you guys are being a bit parinoid. I mean, even if the Wavebird Signal was being taken...how do they know what you are typing in when the A button is pressed? All they can record is movements with the stick and when a button is pressed--and they cant take that info unless they're in the same spot or same game you are.

[adri]

i give up ppl no 1 is listening & useing common since, so w/e beleive what u want to but its all just common since if u think about it.

[Linkooseven]

i give up ppl no 1 is listening & useing common since, so w/e beleive what u want to but its all just common since if u think about it.

I believe what I said needs to be justified--it makes valid sense...

[armion]

Let me set it straight. The warning is there just in case, by some slim mistake, some one is on the same page you are own in that point in time. Also, games that feature that kind of entry, may pick up on it, but the chances are extremely slim, but worth warning about. Unless there is some person within range, using the same input feature, and able to realize what they are doing, there is virtually no big risk.

[Makojin]

I agree with the notion that Sega put the warning in the instruction booklet and in the game as a precaution, but Nintendo doesn't seem to have a problem with using the Wavebird controller in PSO. One of thier prizes in the PSO3 intro contest at Nintendo.com was a Wavebird Wireless controller, which I would think to be a bit contradictory to Sega's warnings. Then again it seems Nintendo wants to push that specific controller whenever they can.

[Eponuts]

Im using a wavebird right now..

Be afriad.



Be VERY afraid.

[vgx32]

haha this is funny! i know alot about computers and stuff like that...wavebird runs on bluetooth technology...PDAs and such also are capable of bluetooth, which could cause interference...and the signal could be picked up by someone near by...but the chancee is very unlikely, unless you live in the city and everything is built out of cardboard and everyone lives close to eachother...and someone had the patience to decode the encrypted data sent from the controller...but you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning while youre reading this. i think the warning has to do withbecause the wavebird uses a different chipset then the regular controller, it sometimes conflicts with the modem/bba, and it can miss button presses and stuff. one time i started TTF and my wavebird stopped working in the game, even though when i pressed a button, the recieve LED still lit up...my thoughts...heres a problem, though, 802.11b - WEP is VERY insecure...someone could be logging your packets...and get your information that way, and 802.11 signals travel much further than bluetooth, so when you enter personal information, try to either enter it on a computer that is wired, or hook up your cube directly...thx - vgx32, also, please read my topic about keyboards

[Mr Crono]

Wavebird uses radio waves, hence the "wave" part

[Gearskylirr]

heh heh heh.... i used my keyboard when i entered my online info heh also u can enter it on a regular computer, that way u dont have to worry about anyone picking up any signal lol

[vgx32]

gamecube is more secure due to the fact that on the comp someone could have installed a keylogger or a trojan...taht could easily steal a cc # any questions feel free to ask me

thx,
gerad

[Fossil]

The chances anyone picked up you're wavebird signal are so remote you have a better chance to win the lottery. I've been using one since day one and never had problems. Wavebirds only have a what, 30-80 foot signal? A couple thousand miles? Yeah right, you're paranoid if you think they could.

[kamatsu]

how can u be so sure of that perhaps uve just gotten lucky i wouldnt be too cocky.

[Mr Crono]

Wavebird has a 100ft range. Meaning that weird kid next door with no friends could find out your Credit Card number and use it to create a weapon of mass destruction.


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What?

[251]

The chances anyone picked up you're wavebird signal are so remote you have a better chance to win the lottery. I've been using one since day one and never had problems. Wavebirds only have a what, 30-80 foot signal? A couple thousand miles? Yeah right, you're paranoid if you think they could.
Actually, with full battery power, and minimum interference, the wavebird can reach up to 100 ft. Go look at the review on IGN. Pics included :o
But you are right, if nobody knows what you are doing, you are generallly safe. What are the chances someoneone would come up with that idea in time?

--On a side note I have tried to use my wavebird with a friends receiver, same channels, of course. It did NOT work. I'm sure it was plugged in correctly, bc afterwards he tried his and it worked fine.
After that, the idea of someone picking it up that way sounds like nonsense to me. ... Has anyone else ACTUALLY TRIED THIS?

[Garfield]

yeah while i play a 1 player game with my friends, they take over with my other wavebird by being on the same frequency. So it is possible.

[pso123hrf]

I agree with the notion that Sega put the warning in the instruction booklet and in the game as a precaution, but Nintendo doesn't seem to have a problem with using the Wavebird controller in PSO. One of thier prizes in the PSO3 intro contest at Nintendo.com was a Wavebird Wireless controller, which I would think to be a bit contradictory to Sega's warnings. Then again it seems Nintendo wants to push that specific controller whenever they can.Character Amy rocks!... *ahem*... back to the subject.... If you do use it, and a adult is playing PSO 1&2, they can do stuff... it can get bloddy.

[Garfield]

what do you mean by "stuff"?

[251]

... I have tried doing that when they walk away, ours aren`t compatable with each other.

[Gearskylirr]

Wavebird has a 100ft range. Meaning that weird kid next door with no friends could find out your Credit Card number and use it to create a weapon of mass destruction.


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What? wwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!1

[Gearskylirr]

whooo hooo seriously what are the chances of ur next door neighbor in this day and age having phantasy star online???? and be at the same screen at the same time u were? ....unless they have no life.......

[JoshuaZero]

they warn because recently I have heard news that a wave bird amplified reciever has been made. Not by nintendo, but a third party. It can't be sold in most stores because is it specifically ment for you to have you game do what your friends does etc. also they don't need the game, the numbers go left to right they could figure out the placing of it. The reciever is supposed to reahc for a hlaf a mile so it is not a matter of chance it is a matter of wether or not the person with this special reciever wants your information.

[pso123hrf]

By stuff, as in killing 8)

[Gearskylirr]

they warn because recently I have heard news that a wave bird amplified reciever has been made. Not by nintendo, but a third party. It can't be sold in most stores because is it specifically ment for you to have you game do what your friends does etc. also they don't need the game, the numbers go left to right they could figure out the placing of it. The reciever is supposed to reahc for a hlaf a mile so it is not a matter of chance it is a matter of wether or not the person with this special reciever wants your information. but if they dont have the game how in the wold can they get ur information???

[JoshuaZero]

Watching the cursor move on any game would tell them what numbers you are clicking. Don't make this difficult lol.

[Gearskylirr]

ummm but wut if the game doesnt have any cursors

[HUmarELITE]

let me tell you one thing- the wavebird has got some CRAZY range. I went on my driveway and it went thru , like, 6 walls, and it still recieved. but not in excess of the radius of a normal persons house- plus, the odds of you and someone in your neighborhood thats very close to you using the same frequency as you and saying that the people around aren't old and senile(like my neighbors) and actually own a gamecube are VERY slim. like, 1 in 4750 or something flamer like that. and by the way, if people really wanted to do you harm in any way, they would just bust into your house and do whatever- or if they wanted to steal your personal information, then they would just bombard you with pop-up ads, right? so go ahead- bust out that sexy wireless peripherel! more power to ya! aint no shame but to play the game!