Episode IV is up

[Clumsyorchid]

Hello,

Episode IV is now available. All players looking for a taste of the newest Adventure to hit PSO- log in now and get questing.

Thanks for your patience during the maintenance and have fun online.

Clumsy + Team :D

[Orta]

Sweet 8)

[-Demon-]

thank you :D

[Paragon]

Once I return from college, I shall bask in the majesty that is Episode 4 :)

Thanks, Clumsy, on the news :wink:

[This is Shou]

Good Good show indeed chaps....

[Slink]

Yey :) thnx

[Avaj]

Thanks.

[Anti Hacker]

I am not a fan of "1337 5P34K"

...

But W0000000Tz0R5!!!

Thanks, this should be great fun! :lol:

[JexKay]

Thanks!

Now, to be a total noob, I gotta ask:

I just fire PSO up (i.e. run it) and it will automatically do whatever it needs to let me play Ep IV (if anything), right?

[Aeon]

From this moment forth, 'Yowies' are officially the most awesomely-named PSO enemy.

That is all.

[N_Jack]

where i go to download ep.4?? :?

[Balthis]

yeah !!! it's greath good game all :twisted: and now kill all you see !!!!

[Elsyd]

Cool :)

But why i have a work :cry: i can't play...

[Ogni]

Well, I'm also sitting here at work... and wont be able to get online tonight T.T But nevertheless ^_^ thanks and hurray!

[Flurg]

YOU CAN ONLY GET TO 9-4?!!?!??!! BULLLLLCRAAAPO

[Aerawnt]

So where are the missions after 9-4?

Why doesn't the porter to ragol work outside of the missions?

Where is the entire desert area?

Or how about the boss? What the hell kind of release is this.

Seems you missed a few buttons when it was enabled...

[biolizard_alpha]

They didn't release 9-5 and up, so the desert area isn't there, and there is no boss without the desert area.

The real button they forgot to switch was to unban Episode 4 rares.

[VampireD]

where i go to download ep.4?? :?

LOL, dude, you already have it, its just activated when you fire up blue burst, lol omg that was funny.



But yeah anyway, this is stupid them only doing 9-1 to 9-4, please someone from the team tell us wtf is going on

[KemiKal]

we waited that long for this? rares you cant pick up without getting disconnected and only a few stages unlocked?

[Paragon]

Stop moaning.

[Sayris]

Stop moaning.

I thought the same thing, until this. I'm not complaining, but no really, this time it REALLY is this bad. It took like an hour or two to beat this... And now we are done... We got exited for a big Ep. 4 release, and we get this. Now that I'm up to 9-4 I won't even play there anymore, the EXP is better in Ep. 1.

[Paragon]

I know there are are problems still recurring in Ep4, i can see that from these posts :P

hat i mean is that we could do without the whole 'omfg wtf is g0in on' malarkey.

things will be fixed - a little maturity and patience is all we need :wink:

[Brettster]

Thanks now to go kick some alien hibba jabba

[VampireD]

Yes i have patience, the thing i cant stand is that they build us up, build up our hopes, for ep 4 which isnt yet complete, and this aint there first mistake, I am simply annoyed with the continuous delays, problems and incompletness (you get what it means so dont question me on grammer) of the game

[Mst Sword]

I know there are are problems still recurring in Ep4, i can see that from these posts :P

hat i mean is that we could do without the whole 'omfg wtf is g0in on' malarkey.

things will be fixed - a little maturity and patience is all we need :wink:I agree, your feedback is neither constructive or necessary, maybe before people go 0h n00 e|>4 is teh Shiz, they should fill in the problem reporting forms.

[Theanor]

I swear. You people came straight from the steampowered.com forums didn't you?

[Paragon]

Positive attitudes can keep the community a lot stronger, rather than congregating in a flameful hatred towards the very people who are running this game :P

It'll all be fixed eventually, and none of us are going anywhere, so kick back and try to enjoy the process ^^

(apologies for any abruptness in my posts today, as i am in College, and i've little time to make posts on boards)

[Esc]

Thank you, Orchid.

I'm sure you'll explain something about the rare item bug?

[areia]

Well I get the feeling that SEGA is a so cheap company and can't make even a simple game like that; There're so more complicated online games out there and they're managed so much better; PSO is so simple and they can't even do that. Start thinking if it really worths the money.
Are you still translating the game from Japanese? Then don't say you get it ready... or at least say on 28th there's going to be a preview.
Sega gets money for this is not for free. We pay so we have any right to complain and demand the true thing and good work from them. This is like an amateur team. At least prove some proffesionalism.

PS: don't tell if I don't like it to go and play some other game; I really like the simplicity of PSO thats why i'm here.

[walnut100]

Yes i have patience, the thing i cant stand is that they build us up, build up our hopes, for ep 4 which isnt yet complete, and this aint there first mistake, I am simply annoyed with the continuous delays, problems and incompletness (you get what it means so dont question me on grammer) of the game

Be glad they released a buggy one. They COULD have chosen to conceal it another month, without even giving us a taste of what it would be like. That way it'd be all complete, but then people would be whining about how they had to wait another month for Ep IV. These things don't pop out of mid-air ya know. Cut them some slack. If you're going to give me the "I'm paying 9 bucks a month for this!?!" line, then don't forget, no one's forcing you to pay to play.

EDIT: Also, as for the post above me, I doubt you have any real experience with game design from that post. It's a lot more complicated then you might guess. Especially when a game gets so complicated. Coding gets hard to read, everything becomes a mess, when you enable one thing you have to keep the balance in another part of the program, all that jazz. A simple game is Pong. Even that has 500-1000 lines of code. Imagine how much PSO has...

[KemiKal]

Stop moaning.

im not moaning. im stating my opinion. which happens to be that i dont think it was worth the wait for what they released. i would of honestly been willing to wait a week or two longer if that meant fixing all the bugs and adding all the levels.

[FLiG]

hrm this sucks :(

please sega what ever you do

dont charge 30$ for the non buggy one!!!!


beacouse alot of people wont pay

[Paragon]

do you not grow in the least bit tired of people saying how 'awful' sega and ST are, though?

i, for one, am beginning to find it a bit tedious, and im sure a few of you will be feeling the same way.

again, apologies for the abruptness, but frankly, somebody had to say it.

[Ash]

You live up to your name, Paragon.

[areia]

Yes i have patience, the thing i cant stand is that they build us up, build up our hopes, for ep 4 which isnt yet complete, and this aint there first mistake, I am simply annoyed with the continuous delays, problems and incompletness (you get what it means so dont question me on grammer) of the game

Be glad they released a buggy one. They COULD have chosen to conceal it another month, without even giving us a taste of what it would be like. That way it'd be all complete, but then people would be whining about how they had to wait another month for Ep IV. These things don't pop out of mid-air ya know. Cut them some slack. If you're going to give me the "I'm paying 9 bucks a month for this!?!" line, then don't forget, no one's forcing you to pay to play.

When a proffesional team works for a game, they present a full product. Ep4 should be out when we started paying for this. We accepted to wait. Now we get 4 missions to play and some bugs.
If you're an addicted PSO fan that has played this game on every version and you don't mind waiting because you really like it that's fine. I've just started playing this last month though and I like it a lot. But I see all this getting ruined by poor support/working from Sega's side.
If this continues only the hard-core PSO gamers will remain that they may accept being SEGA's doggies and wait till they decide to put this out. Normally one should demand what they paid for.

PS: and this thing: "you get ep4 for non extra charge". Sega, what marketing trick is that? You think we're stupid? Blue burst is 1+2+4. Of course we shouldn't get any extra charge for ep4.
PS2: check how timely the Japanese version arrived, with proper support and updates and then you'll understand why this sucks.

[Starfurre]

broken rares, only 4 quests, no solo mode, no playing outside of quests, no boss, over-powered enemies (even for ep4 normal)

This isn't a release its a demo...shouldn't you have tested this on your personal server first sega? we know you have one or you wouldn't get screenshots.

[-R124-Reb-]

They should of, But they didnt, They took the chance and they must live with it... Ive already gotten over it, there is more of PSO:BB than just EPIV!

Why cant u just enjoy what works!

[Starfurre]

I did, the fact was SEGA hyped up EP4 as better then sliced bread WITH bacon, then give us this crap.

[areia]

They should of, But they didnt, They took the chance and they must live with it... Ive already gotten over it, there is more of PSO:BB than just EPIV!

Why cant u just enjoy what works!

Eventhough I'm moaning because I felt like somebody is making fun of us, I do exactly that. I enjoy what I can and wait patiently. Just hoping to get a nice full-working version at an assigned day even if that's in 2 months. The amount we pay is enought even for less than what we're offered at least in my oppinion. But since SEGA has promised something... we should get it, don't we?

Okay at least couldn't Clumsyorchid let us know about it? or update us and let us know what's happening? Because after we've discovered this, nobody has really given us an update. Maybe it's an odd bug after all.

[The James]

They should of, But they didnt, They took the chance and they must live with it... Ive already gotten over it, there is more of PSO:BB than just EPIV!

Why cant u just enjoy what works!

Eventhough I'm moaning because I felt like somebody is making fun of us, I do exactly that. I enjoy what I can and wait patiently. Just hoping to get a nice full-working version at an assigned day even if that's in 2 months. The amount we pay is enough even for less thatn what we are offered at least in my oppinion. But since SEGA promised something... we should get it, don't we?

Okay at leat couldn't Clumsyorchid let us know about it? or update us and let us know what's happening? Because after we've discovered that nobody has really given us an updated. Maybe it's an odd bug after all.

Dude your only paying 8.99 a month, thats chump change. Its bad enought i have this crap in the lobbies please dont bring it to the boards

[Team Radish]

I'm glad that some of episode 4 is out...at least it gives us a bit more to play with. But I agree that Sega really hyped this up for nothing. They went on about "EPISODE 4 IS FINALLY HERE!" when, in truth, it's not here. This is just a demo. They could have at least told us the truth, that only a part of it would be released. I'm sure we could have accepted it much better than finding out on our own.

I feel like I've been cheated.

[areia]

Dude your only paying 8.99 a month, thats chump change. Its bad enought i have this *** in the lobbies please dont bring it to the boards

I said that I think it's cheap anyway. But even one penny gives me the right to moan about it and doesn't allow SEGA to be less responsible. This 8.99 might be hard to pay for some people; you've to respect them.
After all I'm not the only one moaning about it. Everybody feels like cheated. Now I don't like forum fights-they're meaningless and don't really have to prove anything here. So I shall get back to the game ^^

PS: on the other hand, when you go to a hotel or a restaurant you should expect to have a service according to what you paid for. So you might be right.

[Sahaqiel]

some confirmation that something is going to be done soon about this would be nice >.<

[CrimsonTears]

things will be fixed - a little maturity and patience is all we need :wink:

I would have expected maturity from Sega, tho... after even delaying the release... they managed to 'translate' 4 whole quests (woohoo) and release rares that crash the game...

[VampireD]

Yes i have patience, the thing i cant stand is that they build us up, build up our hopes, for ep 4 which isnt yet complete, and this aint there first mistake, I am simply annoyed with the continuous delays, problems and incompletness (you get what it means so dont question me on grammer) of the game

Be glad they released a buggy one. They COULD have chosen to conceal it another month, without even giving us a taste of what it would be like. That way it'd be all complete, but then people would be whining about how they had to wait another month for Ep IV. These things don't pop out of mid-air ya know. Cut them some slack. If you're going to give me the "I'm paying 9 bucks a month for this!?!" line, then don't forget, no one's forcing you to pay to play.

EDIT: Also, as for the post above me, I doubt you have any real experience with game design from that post. It's a lot more complicated then you might guess. Especially when a game gets so complicated. Coding gets hard to read, everything becomes a mess, when you enable one thing you have to keep the balance in another part of the program, all that jazz. A simple game is Pong. Even that has 500-1000 lines of code. Imagine how much PSO has...

Ahem these people are preffesionals for one thing, two its more like a test version of ep 4, and this is no longer the beta, we shouldnt be testing it now, and thridly, I have said this before and I will say it again, I ain't using the "I'm paying for this" excuse, so don't presume stuff like that, I know programming is hard, but these are proffesionals which have made the greats and people expect more from these people than third rate effort, what I mean is, they have had no problems with classics and greats but as soon as this comes around, (very good graphics which they are used to, and difficulty) they wait til free trial is over then give us a test version of ep 4, now that is in all ways wrong, if they wanted that testing, thats what the beta was for

[foreignreign]

The japanese had to pay $30 for less content then we have gotten on the first minute.

Think about it that way.

You're only paying $9 for all of this.

[Starfurre]

[quote=VampireD]Yes i have patience, the thing i cant stand is that they build us up, build up our hopes, for ep 4 which isnt yet complete, and this aint there first mistake, I am simply annoyed with the continuous delays, problems and incompletness (you get what it means so dont question me on grammer) of the game

Be glad they released a buggy one. They COULD have chosen to conceal it another month, without even giving us a taste of what it would be like. That way it'd be all complete, but then people would be whining about how they had to wait another month for Ep IV. These things don't pop out of mid-air ya know. Cut them some slack. If you're going to give me the "I'm paying 9 bucks a month for this!?!" line, then don't forget, no one's forcing you to pay to play.

EDIT: Also, as for the post above me, I doubt you have any real experience with game design from that post. It's a lot more complicated then you might guess. Especially when a game gets so complicated. Coding gets hard to read, everything becomes a mess, when you enable one thing you have to keep the balance in another part of the program, all that jazz. A simple game is Pong. Even that has 500-1000 lines of code. Imagine how much PSO has...

on top of being professional, this is not a 10 person team either. They have a tester team, a programming team, many in fact for many different aspects of the game, ever since PSOBB started, there was a team in charge of EP2, vhard/ultimate, and EP4. So in actuality, they were working on EP4 since this existed. They found glitches, ok, they took the weekend to fix them, it should have been at least a bit better then it is right now.

[VampireD]

[quote=VampireD]Yes i have patience, the thing i cant stand is that they build us up, build up our hopes, for ep 4 which isnt yet complete, and this aint there first mistake, I am simply annoyed with the continuous delays, problems and incompletness (you get what it means so dont question me on grammer) of the game

Be glad they released a buggy one. They COULD have chosen to conceal it another month, without even giving us a taste of what it would be like. That way it'd be all complete, but then people would be whining about how they had to wait another month for Ep IV. These things don't pop out of mid-air ya know. Cut them some slack. If you're going to give me the "I'm paying 9 bucks a month for this!?!" line, then don't forget, no one's forcing you to pay to play.

EDIT: Also, as for the post above me, I doubt you have any real experience with game design from that post. It's a lot more complicated then you might guess. Especially when a game gets so complicated. Coding gets hard to read, everything becomes a mess, when you enable one thing you have to keep the balance in another part of the program, all that jazz. A simple game is Pong. Even that has 500-1000 lines of code. Imagine how much PSO has...

on top of being professional, this is not a 10 person team either. They have a tester team, a programming team, many in fact for many different aspects of the game, ever since PSOBB started, there was a team in charge of EP2, vhard/ultimate, and EP4. So in actuality, they were working on EP4 since this existed. They found glitches, ok, they took the weekend to fix them, it should have been at least a bit better then it is right now.

Thank you, someone on this forum that isn't dececed in the brain


The japanese had to pay $30 for less content then we have gotten on the first minute.

Think about it that way.

You're only paying $9 for all of this.

correction,£6 for starters because I'm british and secondly that isnt the point, they shouldnt of had to pay that much for the problems so i dont care what they have to pay, I wasn't even talking about the pay

[Starfurre]

I think you're looking for "deceased in the brain" or "diseased in the brain" no?

[VampireD]

Urm yeah, I was near enough, look people have peed me of so my spelling won't be as good

[Starfurre]

as for cost, the japanese got EP4 before us, before MMORPGs were common enough to reduce the price to below 10 bucks or even free for some games, to them playing online on such a big medium was a privelege, so they had to pay for it.

The fact is that just because Sega is generous enough not to charge, it has no excuse for lackluster performance, for we're still paying to even play the game.

[Starfurre]

oh yeah, and to put icing on the cake, we got "server maintainance" at 12 am today for 3 hours, yay.

Hope they fix the rares by that time, maybe then it'll be tolerable.

[Gally]

oh yeah, and to put icing on the cake, we got "server maintainance" at 12 am today for 3 hours, yay.

Hope they fix the rares by that time, maybe then it'll be tolerable.

Lol I think this maintenance is already done. It was this morning for eps. IV.

[FLiG]

yea lmao

[Starfurre]

read the announcement below this,

it says June 28th, 12am-3am PST. its now 8;30 am PST.

[Sonicthesuperhedgehog]

well if you think logically...12 am is the start of the 28th. If they were to make another server maintanence at 12 am on the 28th after the initial 12am maintanence than that would be the 29th

[Starfurre]

aw fudge i was thinking 12 pm, you're right XD

the hideousness of ep4 clogged my brain

[areia]

Ehm where do you see the 30$?? They only have to pay for the initial download (1200Yen = 11$) or buy the game anyway (2000Yen = 18.5$) and then they have a subscription of 1000Yen (9$)/month (not 30 days like we do). If you add that the Japanese reality is so much different than the other world, that is so cheaper comparing to anywhere else. 1000Yen is just a dinner anywhere or a Karaoke season (Japanese people's everyday activities).
Don't claim whatever you heard anywhere. I just hate false statements.
And again how much you pay isn't an excuse. Since you promise something for a product/service you should give this. How about I tell you a final impact for 1 pd and when I give it to you, you realize it's only a simple shot +2 found anywhere in the game. Can I tell you "Oh you only gave me 1pd that's what you get"? Just because you sell something relatively cheap, it means you don't have any responsibility about what you're offering? You set a promise, you set a price and let the people choose. If they accept you have to keep the promise and in this case SEGA didn't. We could even sue for this since we paid and we were promised something we didn't get (if we were stupid enough to run this into courts). It's like you buy a box of cookies claiming to have 250g and only 100g are there. Wouldn't you go to the police and report it for fraud? Same is happening here. Maybe because they know we're addicted anyway and we'll be like stupid dogs waiting for more.

Whatever everyone's oppinion is about this and unrelatively how addicted you're on this game or SEGA, the fact is that SEGA has cheated on us since we should be playing "BLUE BURST" (That inlcudes ep1+2+4) from the first day we paid for it since this is the game we are paying for.

Now if somewhere in the terms is saying "SEGA has the right to do whatever they want and not giving you what they advertise" then sorry my wrong.

That's the logical and "law side". I repeat again though that I'm like everyone else that they would like to play the game because they like it-so I wait. But I don't accept people trying to invent excuses for SEGA.

Let Clumsyorchid appear somewhere and say what's really happening.

[Gally]

Ehm where do you see the 30$?? They only have to pay for the initial download (1200Yen = 11$) or buy the game anyway (2000Yen = 18.5$) and then they have a subscription of 1000Yen (9$)/month (not 30 days like we do). If you add that the Japanese reality is so much different than the other world, that is so cheaper comparing to anywhere else. 1000Yen is just a dinner anywhere or a Karaoke season (Japanese people's everyday activities).
Don't claim whatever you heard anywhere. I just hate false statements.
And again how much you pay isn't an excuse. Since you promise something for a product/service you should give this. How about I tell you a final impact for 1 pd and when I give it to you, you realize it's only a simple shot +2 found anywhere in the game. Can I tell you "Oh you only gave me 1pd that's what you get"? Just because you sell something relatively cheap, it means you don't have any responsibility about what you're offering? You set a promise, you set a price and let the people choose. If they accept you have to keep the promise and in this case SEGA didn't. We could even sue for this since we paid and we were promised something we didn't get (if we were stupid enough to run this into courts). It's like you buy a box of cookies claiming to have 250g and only 100g are there. Wouldn't you go to the police and report it for fraud? Same is happening here. Maybe because they know we're addicted anyway and we'll be like stupid dogs waiting for more.

Whatever everyone's oppinion is about this and unrelatively how addicted you're on this game or SEGA, the fact is that SEGA has cheated on us since we should be playing "BLUE BURST" (That inlcudes ep1+2+4) from the first day we paid for it since this is the game we are paying for.
Now if somewhere in the terms is saying "SEGA has the right to do whatever they want and not giving you what they advertise" then sorry my wrong.

That's the logical and "law side". I repeat again though that I'm like everyone else that they would like to play the game because they like it-so I wait. But I don't accept people trying to invent excuses for SEGA.
Let Clumsyorchid appear somewhere and say what's really happening.

/supporting you, you point out good things here ^^
Finally someone mature writing Faqs and not random hate.

[Antipika]

So we need at least +7 days free :D On some others mmorpg when there's some troubles like this, players (who are customers at the same time, dont forget it) get some free days, or one full month free when they are big big problems.

[FLiG]

you know i bet i know why they havent fixed the bugs yet


in japan its night time sillys

they went to beddy

let them sleep...

[lateral-64]

Ehm where do you see the 30$?? They only have to pay for the initial download (1200Yen = 11$) or buy the game anyway (2000Yen = 18.5$) and then they have a subscription of 1000Yen (9$)/month (not 30 days like we do). If you add that the Japanese reality is so much different than the other world, that is so cheaper comparing to anywhere else. 1000Yen is just a dinner anywhere or a Karaoke season (Japanese people's everyday activities).
Don't claim whatever you heard anywhere. I just hate false statements.
And again how much you pay isn't an excuse. Since you promise something for a product/service you should give this. How about I tell you a final impact for 1 pd and when I give it to you, you realize it's only a simple shot +2 found anywhere in the game. Can I tell you "Oh you only gave me 1pd that's what you get"? Just because you sell something relatively cheap, it means you don't have any responsibility about what you're offering? You set a promise, you set a price and let the people choose. If they accept you have to keep the promise and in this case SEGA didn't. We could even sue for this since we paid and we were promised something we didn't get (if we were stupid enough to run this into courts). It's like you buy a box of cookies claiming to have 250g and only 100g are there. Wouldn't you go to the police and report it for fraud? Same is happening here. Maybe because they know we're addicted anyway and we'll be like stupid dogs waiting for more.

Whatever everyone's oppinion is about this and unrelatively how addicted you're on this game or SEGA, the fact is that SEGA has cheated on us since we should be playing "BLUE BURST" (That inlcudes ep1+2+4) from the first day we paid for it since this is the game we are paying for.
Now if somewhere in the terms is saying "SEGA has the right to do whatever they want and not giving you what they advertise" then sorry my wrong.

That's the logical and "law side". I repeat again though that I'm like everyone else that they would like to play the game because they like it-so I wait. But I don't accept people trying to invent excuses for SEGA.
Let Clumsyorchid appear somewhere and say what's really happening.

/supporting you, you point out good things here ^^
Finally someone mature writing Faqs and not random hate.

I agree as well. I'd much rather have paid 30 dollars up front, hell even 50, if it ment having the whole game bug free from day 1. We had to pay for every other version of PSO... and every other game we play, so whats so horrible about paying for this one?

[foreignreign]

you know i bet i know why they havent fixed the bugs yet


in japan its night time sillys

they went to beddy

let them sleep...

. . .

You do realize that the Sonic Team that releases the PSO: BB that you're playing has their HQ situated in California, right?

[FLiG]

no lmao

thought it was in japan

well mabey their used to japan time


LET THEM SLEEPY

[VampireD]

And also every bit of the games is already ready, they just have to translate it, thats why I'm peeved

[zircon]

LET THEM SLEEPY
this statement still stands

[VampireD]

Yeah let them because the whole game is already ready

[LeeAlexander]

Alot of you have already stated this I would just like to add in my bit. A little info about myself. My parents and me aren't that well off. I have to pay for this game through a special debit card thingy. You know you put money on it then activate. Thing is the lowest you can add is 20 dollars. So basicly I pay 20 for this game. The main reason I started playing psobb is because i wanted to play episode 4. I own the gc version and the dc version and I love pso but well after so long even with the love it gets boring so i figured yay episode 4. Now I can understand the rare bug. Its a bug they happen. It however is a very very big bug and really why play episode 4 if you can't get the new rares. I mean yes it is nice to see this new content but no serious player is going to play for long knowing they can get no rare drops, but lets say however they did play for a while...what do they get? They get 4 little principle quests. Thats it...thats all. They get no boss and no area free play without a quest. They get no multiple areas just this bland looking desert. Honestly the reason i wanted to play episode 4 are the following in order of biggest to smallest: new rare weapons, new bosses, better exp, new area content, new enemies. Well the first two were shot straight off. The exp well its not even as good as the exp in hard mode in ruins so i imagine the same goes for very hard ruins. The new area content as said is bland. Its a freaking desert. It reminds me of wandering around on eq killing rats. People that isn't fun. Enemies though i will give you they were pretty nice. Basicly I'm not going to flame with tons of oh you suck I am just going to state that you people have really dissapointed me. I suggest you all should get on the ball. I don't know exactly what your problem is but you need to fix it. Otherwise the game is going to remain this small and your going to actually lose players. Seriously pso is repetative. Very much so, meaning unless you are a player a veteran way back from dc or gc days you won't play it long. Unless you can do things and do them right your going to lose alot more money than you make. Infact as last words I'd like to say unless things change I myself will not be resubscriping next month which considering I have only been apart of this community for 2 weeks is kinda special...don't you think?

[VampireD]

Now thats what I would of said if I was that literate, thank you Lee, That is very correct, all of it, now sega, please stop making these lies because I know you have the game ready and that you could of released it all by now, yes a long update I know but atleast no lies, so that means over estimating, dont say how many hours you think it is, take that amount, divide it by 2 and times that by 3, I think you'll find if that was done this morning you would of been round about just on target, much nearer

[Shockblast22]

I agree with you, LeeAlexander

[LeeAlexander]

Lol thank you for appreatiating me I'm yeah working towards being a writer so i thought i should post how i feel here. I also agree with you totally though this thing so far has been basicly one big lie.

[VampireD]

this is disappointing to tell the truth, this is SEGA,sonic team, a great team of game makers and they do this, ruin my trust in there company

[Viridis]

nicely said

I've been playing since day one on the DC, then xbox version and now BB

As much as i love this game, i just wish we could have the rest, what's wrong with adding challenge or battle? what about endless nightmare etc?

there's only so much baiting a fish can take before it gets bored and swims away

[LeeAlexander]

I agree cause i myself grow up playing sonic instead of mario and spent my last few years playing alot of pso. I acutally considered getting a seperate cable line in my room simply to play gc online. I trusted sega fully. I remember happy times playing sonic. It sadly seems though that maybe we should all fire up our genesis and just stick with the good old days and try to pay far less attention to the present and not even consider what kind of future is coming with our sonic team.

[VampireD]

I'm only staying becauseI'm still quite patient but other people arn't and I'm still very annoyed, if SEGA don't stop there baiting like you said, we are gonna get annoyed at being treated like fish

[[Hitoshi]]

Nothing will ever happen because people won't be willing to go on strike and not pay for a month. We are all too addicted. :lol:

[VampireD]

You maybe ain't but other people are

[Ness012345]

Wow, is complain, moan, and whine all you people do?

This is how online RPGs work, they NEVER release an entire expansion right away.

Look at Chains of Promathia for FFXI. You had to buy the expansion, and you could only complete up to chapter 4. After that, you had to wait two months, they release another chapter, another two months, another chapter, and now, with this next update, they are finnaly finishing the storyline.

A whole half a year after the initial release. Did people complain? Nope. They have this thing called paitence.

Was Chains of Promathia hyped up? Oh yeah.
Was it fun? Oh yeah.
Was everything unlocked at the start? Nope.

Get over it. This is an online game, this is how things work, it's a gimmick to get you to continue to play so that sonic team can make more money off of the game.

If you don't like it, quit. Simple as that.

[PSOXtreme]

I knwo some people are confused about the rest of Ep4 not being released. But I believe it was true Ep4 was released gradually over time in Japan as well.
If you want a challenge, do Very Hard Ep4. That will give you one heck of a time and Im sure will load you up on exp as well!

Im sure the rest of ep4 will be coming shortly as same did happen in the JP version.

As of now, Im lovin ep4!!

[Sahaqiel]

I knwo some people are confused about the rest of Ep4 not being released. But I believe it was true Ep4 was released gradually over time in Japan as well.
If you want a challenge, do Very Hard Ep4. That will give you one heck of a time and Im sure will load you up on exp as well!

Im sure the rest of ep4 will be coming shortly as same did happen in the JP version.

As of now, Im lovin ep4!!

errr no offense we're quite annoyed at the fact theres no as much ep4 as we'd first thought, but the vast majority of this is because we can't pick up rares :?

[LeeAlexander]

Lol I'll admit I am still sitting here playing it myself but doing this same soul blade quest over and over to level...They just really need alot more content. I mean they re-released a game that can be played to a fully extent online on xbox or gamecube. Except of course for their glorious episode 4 and well that is what we are all :):):):)ed about here anyway. I am yeah sadly beginning to get bored and I hate it cause its such a wonderful but i mean when i can power up my gc and do almost the same game what is the point of me paying these monthly fees?

[Viridis]

Wow, is complain, moan, and whine all you people do?


I think everyone has a right to, no one ever said "half of episode 4" or "part of" they said "episode 4 is coming out on the 28th" now to me, that means the entire thing, it would be nice to be informed about whats going on, which is why a lot of people moan, its a lack of proper communication about what is going to happen, if we were told that it would be released gradually then people wouldn't be so annoyed

at the moment ep 4 is practically useless due to A) not being able to pick up any rares and B) no playing unless in a quest, yeah its nice to have new areas and new monsters to beat up on, but it's just not the same

[halotank]

Look, everyone that dissing Sega.
SHUT...UP....
Thank You

[LazarusIsLoved]

Alot of you have already stated this I would just like to add in my bit. A little info about myself. My parents and me aren't that well off. I have to pay for this game through a special debit card thingy. You know you put money on it then activate. Thing is the lowest you can add is 20 dollars. So basicly I pay 20 for this game. The main reason I started playing psobb is because i wanted to play episode 4. I own the gc version and the dc version and I love pso but well after so long even with the love it gets boring so i figured yay episode 4. Now I can understand the rare bug. Its a bug they happen. It however is a very very big bug and really why play episode 4 if you can't get the new rares. I mean yes it is nice to see this new content but no serious player is going to play for long knowing they can get no rare drops, but lets say however they did play for a while...what do they get? They get 4 little principle quests. Thats it...thats all. They get no boss and no area free play without a quest. They get no multiple areas just this bland looking desert. Honestly the reason i wanted to play episode 4 are the following in order of biggest to smallest: new rare weapons, new bosses, better exp, new area content, new enemies. Well the first two were shot straight off. The exp well its not even as good as the exp in hard mode in ruins so i imagine the same goes for very hard ruins. The new area content as said is bland. Its a freaking desert. It reminds me of wandering around on eq killing rats. People that isn't fun. Enemies though i will give you they were pretty nice. Basicly I'm not going to flame with tons of oh you suck I am just going to state that you people have really dissapointed me. I suggest you all should get on the ball. I don't know exactly what your problem is but you need to fix it. Otherwise the game is going to remain this small and your going to actually lose players. Seriously pso is repetative. Very much so, meaning unless you are a player a veteran way back from dc or gc days you won't play it long. Unless you can do things and do them right your going to lose alot more money than you make. Infact as last words I'd like to say unless things change I myself will not be resubscriping next month which considering I have only been apart of this community for 2 weeks is kinda special...don't you think?


You talk too much, likea kid in a store that has a mom that wont let them get that pack of M&Ms

[VampireD]

Wow, is complain, moan, and whine all you people do?

This is how online RPGs work, they NEVER release an entire expansion right away.

Look at Chains of Promathia for FFXI. You had to buy the expansion, and you could only complete up to chapter 4. After that, you had to wait two months, they release another chapter, another two months, another chapter, and now, with this next update, they are finnaly finishing the storyline.

A whole half a year after the initial release. Did people complain? Nope. They have this thing called paitence.

Was Chains of Promathia hyped up? Oh yeah.
Was it fun? Oh yeah.
Was everything unlocked at the start? Nope.

Get over it. This is an online game, this is how things work, it's a gimmick to get you to continue to play so that sonic team can make more money off of the game.

If you don't like it, quit. Simple as that.

Dude not all of that is true, look at lee's post it is truer than yours, this isn't FFXI, FFXI is overatted, you'll find it isn't even fun most of the time, e.g. when it takes you ages to find a party, around 2 hours infact, and if you don't believe me I have a friend who i saw playing the game and he couldnt get a party til 2 hours later, we had to bugger of and do something else while we waited, and before you say "why don't you solo", it is just about impossible to solo without dieing every 2 minutes so please don't compare this to FFXI

[LeeAlexander]

Right to free speech. In the constitution. Enough said.

[VampireD]

Alot of you have already stated this I would just like to add in my bit. A little info about myself. My parents and me aren't that well off. I have to pay for this game through a special debit card thingy. You know you put money on it then activate. Thing is the lowest you can add is 20 dollars. So basicly I pay 20 for this game. The main reason I started playing psobb is because i wanted to play episode 4. I own the gc version and the dc version and I love pso but well after so long even with the love it gets boring so i figured yay episode 4. Now I can understand the rare bug. Its a bug they happen. It however is a very very big bug and really why play episode 4 if you can't get the new rares. I mean yes it is nice to see this new content but no serious player is going to play for long knowing they can get no rare drops, but lets say however they did play for a while...what do they get? They get 4 little principle quests. Thats it...thats all. They get no boss and no area free play without a quest. They get no multiple areas just this bland looking desert. Honestly the reason i wanted to play episode 4 are the following in order of biggest to smallest: new rare weapons, new bosses, better exp, new area content, new enemies. Well the first two were shot straight off. The exp well its not even as good as the exp in hard mode in ruins so i imagine the same goes for very hard ruins. The new area content as said is bland. Its a freaking desert. It reminds me of wandering around on eq killing rats. People that isn't fun. Enemies though i will give you they were pretty nice. Basicly I'm not going to flame with tons of oh you suck I am just going to state that you people have really dissapointed me. I suggest you all should get on the ball. I don't know exactly what your problem is but you need to fix it. Otherwise the game is going to remain this small and your going to actually lose players. Seriously pso is repetative. Very much so, meaning unless you are a player a veteran way back from dc or gc days you won't play it long. Unless you can do things and do them right your going to lose alot more money than you make. Infact as last words I'd like to say unless things change I myself will not be resubscriping next month which considering I have only been apart of this community for 2 weeks is kinda special...don't you think?


You talk too much, likea kid in a store that has a mom that wont let them get that pack of M&Ms

What so if someone has a good point they talk too much, damn your slow, and probably have the inablility too read more than too lines

[X Launcher]

The difference between Chains of Promathia and Episode IV is great and should not be ignored in order to compare the two.

Chains of Promathia, even from the get go, released a bunch of areas to explore. Bibiki Bay, Movalaplos, Boneyard Gully, and of course Promyvion. Episode IV gives basically one area, Crater. Inner Crater changes it up a bit, so we'll just say two. CoP released several new enemies. Episode IV put new skins on several old enemies and made one or two new ones. Cop introduced new items for crafting. We can't pick up new items in Episode IV.

You see, the main difference between them is that CoP was released with enough content to actually last until the next release of more cotent. Frankly, I don't really care that much about the partial release. But it's not all just dandy of them to do.

[Flurg]

IGht gotta add my complaint. What kinda crap is this, no warning or anything taht it wasnt going to be full release. Yes, i'll probably continue playing game, but after 5 years (or however long its been) since the origonal pso game out there is little to show that ST accomplished, some new quests, ep2, more levels, revamped some weps, oh and of course, the soccer lobbies. And all that was out since xbox. After all this time they could have released so much more content, but they didn't, how they keep fans is beyond me (i'm one of them and i dont even know why) but jesus after a 5 day delay and so little content already they least we coulda got was an entire f'in chapter of ep4 or some quests. This is bull crap.

[LeeAlexander]

Lol thank you for supporting me the free speech was curt for the same curtness of the shut up post. To that pose I'd like to agree with the inability to read more than two lines and also add well maybe my mother never bought me that candy and so i actually learned how to express myself to other people instead of whining about other people's expressions.

[VampireD]

See this calls for a new thread, watch the main psobb forum area, i'm making a thread

[Sitka]

They should of, But they didnt, They took the chance and they must live with it... Ive already gotten over it, there is more of PSO:BB than just EPIV!

Why cant u just enjoy what works!

Eventhough I'm moaning because I felt like somebody is making fun of us, I do exactly that. I enjoy what I can and wait patiently. Just hoping to get a nice full-working version at an assigned day even if that's in 2 months. The amount we pay is enought even for less than what we're offered at least in my oppinion. But since SEGA has promised something... we should get it, don't we?

Okay at least couldn't Clumsyorchid let us know about it? or update us and let us know what's happening? Because after we've discovered this, nobody has really given us an update. Maybe it's an odd bug after all.

Agreed - we need an update about this bug and what they anticipate being able to deal with it. The bug isn't just in Ep 4 though, several of us have experienced death boxes when attempting to transfer items between characters. The other day my death box (ie dc when you try to pick it up) was a damn luck mat. That really sucked.

Site admins - what is ST doing about this bug?

Maybe you could give us a central bank for exchanging our items between characters so we can avoid some of these problems.

And yes, I filled out and sent in the appropriate form.

[Varion]

Right to free speech. In the constitution. Enough said.

America's free speech is one of the biggest contradictions in modern society. Don't even put your constitution in here, it's not relevant.

[Shockblast22]

Id be fine with what they gave us as long as i could PICK UP NEW RARES SEGA give us a reason or a update :x :shock: :x

[LeeAlexander]

Oh i admit its a big contradiction and i don't myself care for the american government but still i believe everyone has the right to say what they want to say and all i said in my original post was my dissapointment in sega which right now everyone must be feeling.

[VampireD]

Don't get into american laws and freedom, lets keep to the topic

[Gally]

Wow, is complain, moan, and whine all you people do?

This is how online RPGs work, they NEVER release an entire expansion right away.

Look at Chains of Promathia for FFXI. You had to buy the expansion, and you could only complete up to chapter 4. After that, you had to wait two months, they release another chapter, another two months, another chapter, and now, with this next update, they are finnaly finishing the storyline.

A whole half a year after the initial release. Did people complain? Nope. They have this thing called paitence.

Was Chains of Promathia hyped up? Oh yeah.
Was it fun? Oh yeah.
Was everything unlocked at the start? Nope.

Get over it. This is an online game, this is how things work, it's a gimmick to get you to continue to play so that sonic team can make more money off of the game.

If you don't like it, quit. Simple as that.¨

:):):):):):):):) I'm sorry but CoP was not release before on JP part as wEps. IV was. And if u played cop you'll now that u have a content off more than 5 days of playing all the days to complete it(even more Ithink and yes I mean up to chapter 7 and not 4 as you said) when Eps IV is like 2 hours 2 hours and a half long.

I'm not complaining tho dont read me wrong. It's just not as simple to compare two totaly different game.

And VampireD : My record of Looking for a Party is 8 hours and yes this game makes me HATE Jp player and there no thx ENGRISH PLEASE

[Starfurre]

my problem isn't the lack of quests, just the fact I would like to get the rares that are found...

[effentom]

sega has done a wonderful job with this game, however when they release new episodes they really need to push harder, basically all they have done is minor updates since version 1 from the dreamcast.

we all know sega can make awesome games, this 1 is a prime example, but I for 1 wonder sometimes what they are up to when it comes to PSO, its sometimes feels like this game gets put out of the limelight for many of the other games sega is working on and known for...maybe I'm wrong

but when they released ep. 1 n 2 plus on the gamecube, we all found out all it was, was the original game with 3 added online quests not found in the orginal, and they didn't even add "respective tommorrow" to it.

for the love of PSO, I bought a copy of it, ....anyways this is just 1 of the examples.

I have only played the beta of PSO BB, from what you guys say it sounds as if sega is up to they're old minor PSO updates again.

PSO really, really needs new levels and monsters, and new weapons, if sega would sit down and use they're creativity they are known for, a real episode 4 would be nothing short of awesome, but will they do it???

PSO needs to stem out like the starwars universe has, it has the potential to be everybit as good as starwars or star trek!

Hopefully this awesome game will stem out on the next gen consoles in the next 2 or 3 years..... I can only hope!

[.Vash.]

Need help its not updateing my files now, never had this problem before anyone help?

[VampireD]

The problem is they're ain't adding enough content to satisfy needs, they say ep 4, we expect complete ep 4 with all gov quests, not just 4 and no access to areas outside of quests, they made people believe they were giving more than they actually were

[Karacan]

I'd just like a patch to fix the rares' bug. Soon.

[nos-sorrow]

i just got home and ready to go online to play some episode 4. All these neagative remarks has me goin "meh".

Rare bugs - Means I cant pick them up?

Episode 4 Quests - What do u mean all the quests arent released?

Query - How long till they fix this?

[Zeroyuy]

i just got home and ready to go online to play some episode 4. All these neagative remarks has me goin "meh".

Rare bugs - Means I cant pick them up?

Episode 4 Quests - What do u mean all the quests arent released?

Query - How long till they fix this?

Rare Bugs - Yes, Whenever you attempt to grab one, You Disconnect, Though , Personally, I love this for all those greedy Baka's out there that feel they need to run and grab the rare before anyone else can, Not even comptenplating sharing it with a person that can use it.

Quests - There are only 4 quests, No boss and no Finish, They just stop

Query - Whenever they release the patch for it

Also, Great post areia, Couldn't agree more on the points you made.

[Internets]

greedy Baka's

Why do you feel the need to say japanese words in the middle of an english sentence? It makes you look like an idiot japanophille.

[Zeroyuy]

greedy Baka's

Why do you feel the need to say japanese words in the middle of an english sentence? It makes you look like an idiot japanophille.

Acutally, I was pretty sure the stupid censors on here blocked idiot, And that's the only reason i felt the need to use it, Nothing more, Nothing less..^^;

[Internets]

You're better than some then. Sorry for being a 'baka' I guess. :wink:

[Zeroyuy]

You're better than some then. Sorry for being a 'baka' I guess. :wink:

No problem..I just hope this Ep.4 problem gets cleared up..It's pretty annoying to have the rares on the ground taunting you, And to only be able to go down to the areas in Missions..Looks like i'll be sticking else where for a while..

[Internets]

If i find a Vivian i'm camping that spot day and night until they fix the stupid thing.

[Chaos Sorcerer]

Yanno.. usually i'm extremely tolerant of Sega's nonsense.. but this one's pretty borderline inexcusable. Delay it for a week.. to release an unfinished and horrificly glitched patch? (you couldn't have, yanno.. delayed it longer to uh.. bug test?)

C'mon now. There's a reason Sega's gone from having nearly 50% of the console market to teetering on bankrupcy. This pretty much sums it up.

[AiD]

you cant pick up rares in ep4! c`mon thats just nonense! SEGA seme to give with one hand and just drop the baton with the other :( do the people in charge of this actually get paid? I`d get sacked from my job if i did the same..

[hc_flowen]

im not sure if we have cleared up the issuse of them lieing about them not giving us the full ep 4 like they said but, i think what im posting is correct they can do this if they want i think this explains it or i might be wroung cause i dont understand much of the terms of service lol


SEGA may elect, at its option, to provide you with limited access rights to the online features of the Program for evaluation purposes. Such limited evaluation access rights will be available for a fixed period of time. Should you be given such limited evaluation access rights, you acknowledge that all of the terms and conditions of this Subscriber Agreement, including the EULA and the Rules of Conduct, shall apply to any such access (except with respect to the first paragraph of Section 2 below).

[OgreX]

all i know is.. this is the only version of pso i've played.. and so far ep4 = bs. (and yes I'm quite drunk atm.. thx)

[Fahlyndra]

If i find a Vivian i'm camping that spot day and night until they fix the stupid thing.

But the servers have to go down to be patched. Oh noes.

[hc_flowen]

even if this was the first one i have played i would think the same thing but think maybe they relased it with a mistake so that we cant acess the quests. maybe the messed up some of the coding and we should be-able to do the whole 4 but if not they are legally able to do this says the terms of service we must give them time for this test. i think.

[Jizmak]

I'd just like a patch to fix the rares' bug. Soon.

Agreed.

[areia]

im not sure if we have cleared up the issuse of them lieing about them not giving us the full ep 4 like they said but, i think what im posting is correct they can do this if they want i think this explains it or i might be wroung cause i dont understand much of the terms of service lol


SEGA may elect, at its option, to provide you with limited access rights to the online features of the Program for evaluation purposes. Such limited evaluation access rights will be available for a fixed period of time. Should you be given such limited evaluation access rights, you acknowledge that all of the terms and conditions of this Subscriber Agreement, including the EULA and the Rules of Conduct, shall apply to any such access (except with respect to the first paragraph of Section 2 below).

Don't want to be rude but that seams just an irrelevant part from the agreement of use. This is about making clear that any service that SEGA will give you (even limited access) follow what's in "Subscriber Agreement, including the EULA and the Rules of Conduct". Doesn't cover this case. Advertisment fraud (if I can call it that-seems almost that to me) can't be solved by regulations anyway. You can't sell an expired chocolate just because you've put with small letters on the package "This might be expired". Same way advertisment fraud can't easily get covered by the terms etc...
Wouldn't bother searching more about it anyway. It doesn't really concerns me since it's SEGA's decisions and they should know better than everybody else in here what they're up to.
It's truth that the latest years they don't do so good (comparing with the legendary past). But they still produce some nice, easy-to-play games, like PSO. So whatever; just killed olga ^^


PS: About FFXI and PSO comparition I'll agree with those said a comparision isn't possible since FFXI is so more complicated. Even a few levels mean lots of gaming. PSO is very simple (something I actually like since I don't like to be bothered too much with games) therefore such huge bugs/luck of proper schedule-updates/working releases are unacceptable to me. After all (as already said by somebody) it's not me and you making the game. It's a huge, proffesional team of experts and we're the customers. Only natural to have demans and for SEGA to receive complains.

[hc_flowen]

i told u im not good at reading those things thanks for pointing it out so they still are going back on what they said?

[Moonwraith]

Sega aren't going back on what they said.

'Episode IV is coming!' was the official word.

We have ep4. They never said anything about releasing all the quests, levels etc.

[Sitka]

Well, Clumsy posts that they're working on it - that's good.

At least we know they're listening and trying to resolve the bugs as they pop up as they did during the beta period.

I'm just glad they're keeping us informed as they go through the process.

Thanks for the update Clumsy.

[areia]

i told u im not good at reading those things thanks for pointing it out so they still are going back on what they said?

Much much simplier this paragraph connects the beta testing let's say to the general agreement of use of the main game. Not sure if it's for the case of releasing a few missions of EP4 which is our case. Anyway let's get realistic. There are two cases:
1.Marketing trick: They know that the game will be late. They advertise Episode4 will be out soon (first 24th? then 28th) so they get new subscribers.
2.Bug: They've messed it up and they're trying to correct it.

It's obvious that the rares bug means not good planning and not enough testing. Or anyway their test version worked fine on their internal servers (companies use on for online games) but something went really wrong when they connected it on the retail server. In the worst case they just didn't test the game enough but that seems very unlikely. Everybody would notice the game crashes when you pick up a rare ;)

I'm sure SEGA is under pressure right now about it and they will try to come up with something. As for the updates, it's not easy for a simple forums mod to just take all SEGA's responsibiliry and start giving oppinions, estimations etc... When something comes out from the team, I'm sure there will be an update and we will all know what's happening.

And a quote specially for EP4:

Yeah like when you buy a pack of cigs, there only 4 cigs inside instead of 20.... (specially points to Moonwraith's post - no offence ;))

[areia]

Well, Clumsy posts that they're working on it - that's good.

At least we know they're listening and trying to resolve the bugs as they pop up as they did during the beta period.

I'm just glad they're keeping us informed as they go through the process.

Thanks for the update Clumsy.

Ok just read that; woot. Much better than our fantastic scenarios ;)

[DestinyHUcast]

Disappointment in sega is all I really feel right now. I just lost my 4 slotted Dparts and weapons to a bug just now...

[UrikoBB3]

Thanks Clumsy for the info, lets just hope everything is ok so these forums can relax a bit...

[areia]

Thanks Clumsy for the info, lets just hope everything is ok so these forums can relax a bit...

Yeah maybe I've posted a bit too much too out of anger/impatience. So guess I'm forgiven ;) Let's just stick to EP1/2 for a bit more...

[Rpgwarlord]

Ive just completed 9-4 and I will leave it until rares can be collected and more content is added. This is Bull for Yellowbozes as we cant get great stuff until ult and things like lame on the second part of the quests aka 10 - (insert amount of quest here ) on very hard. Anyway its getting late and its bed time and tomoz I will be out all day at hospital visiting my grandad.

I just hope they get the bug sorted within a day or two.

[Starfurre]

Announcement just said the item glitch is highest priority

one good thing i finally turned my varaha into a Pure black assault sato.

[Team Radish]

They said they were looking into the "disconnect" problem. Earlier today, people in my party kept disconnecting for no reason. And we found no rares, so it didn't have to do anything with that. That may be what they mean. Maybe that includes rares as well.

[Starfurre]

hope so.

[hc_flowen]

I dont know if this is off topic or it should belong somewhere else but

DestinyHUcast
Disappointment in sega is all I really feel right now. I just lost my 4 slotted Dparts and weapons to a bug just now...
is this when u try to pick up a rare or just a bug that comes at any time? and i also feel that sega let me down.

[DestinyHUcast]

This occurs anywhere, and it seems to have happened to alot of ppl. Hope you don't have your items vanish because sega doesn't even reply to your email much less help u get your items back.

[hc_flowen]

lately sega has sickened me i cant belive they did this to us they could have waited to realse it i mean i wouldnt mind atleast i wouldnt know that i was coming out. then the give us this... maybe we will give me tommorw (yea right).

[moshpit]

is the rares glitch dc is fixed?

[hc_flowen]

dam i wish it was fixed i want my heavenly/arm back lol

[moshpit]

1 of my friend got dc on a rappy beak ,Its like a mag cell to make a rappy mag and the drop rate is 1/10k from sand rappy ouch

[Starfurre]

Honestly that sounds like bull. sand rappies go no beaks just a huge drill.

[biolizard_alpha]

Uh.. Rappy's Beak is a legit drop from a Sand Rappy.

[zlatko]

I couldn't make it through the whole 6 pages of posts :shock:

I could care less about the rare glitch. Stuff like that happens, and they are doing priority work on it, so I'll survive. What irks me is right when you get on the site, it says, "Episode 4 June 28th!" All we got was a fraction of the whole. Therefore, we were lied to. No one knew we were only going to get a bit of it at release, that's witholding information and lying that we'd get the whole thing.

What they did release however, I did enjoy very much. :) Now, are they officially stating the rest of Ep4 won't be for weeks -months? Because if that's the case....I'm pretty mad.

I'll give ST cookies x5 to release the rest of EP4 along when they fix the rares bug. Thank you :D

[JACE]

Although we only got some of the ep4 quests i still like, the monsters on there r cool!! and on vhard they give out good xp its almost like being on ult. But just seeing those rares and not being able to get them is what mostly disappoints. When that is fixed its all good for me i can wait for the other quests. I'll just continue lvling my characters.

[Starfurre]

I hear there's only 2 rares you can find in ep4 that you can take, drops and photon crystals.

Photon crystals are REAL big now, im hunting them.

[kasumi19]

I am actually glad Sega released what they did. I had a feeling that what we would receive would have glitches in it. It was no suprise to me. I had a weird feeling that the delay was likely due to technical issues. As I see it at least we are getting new content. I am a long time PSO player since DC days and I have the patience for Sega to hopefully get things right.

I wish they would release Ep4 on the xbox too. I would pay money for a completed version there.

[Anubislg]

While EP IV seems to be pretty buggy, I'm happy with it thus far.

The limited release is due to the fact that they want to keep us on edge, waiting. Think of it...if they realised the entire EP IV in one day, we would all have it beat in one day.

PSO isn't all completely about getting rares, and what not. Read the story, and get immeresed in it a little bit! Never hurts to read those bubbles you see in the cut-scenes. ;D

As for bugs...well...heh. Even sometimes testing can't reviel the full scope of things. @@" I used to program/develop for a small scale MMORPG, and even thought it was small, on the release dates, we would always have some random bugs in the system no matter HOW hard we tried. XD Heh...good times, and lots of beer later, everything got fixed though.

[devilmaycare]

just saw a rappys beak ? went to pick it up and got connection terminated due to item syncrinisation error dammit
]

[ReD NiKiTA]

Awww, sorry to hear that Dmc

happened to me last night too, first run, red box, then got dc'ed.

But hey!,
I was philosophical about it, and just had a little drinky!

just need to get my monitor repaired and I'm sound as a pound Oo

[Tao Dragon]

Honestly that sounds like bull. sand rappies go no beaks just a huge drill.

ex-bloody-actly. The "drill" IS the beak. The above statement is like saying "Grass Asassins dont have arms, all they have are scythes." :):):):):):):).

[Antipika]

Can't log on right now, just got a server maintenance error message :x

[Dino_246]

Yeah i heard from other users, while that countdown was going on ( nobody knew cause it was in japanese), that it's gonna be a rare fix or something for ep4.

Other users were more like "zOMG ITS TEH END OF THE WORLD OMFGBBQLOLLERSK8TES!!!!!!!111one"

[moshpit]

meh server maintnance w/o any announcement meh :o

[Rageaholic]

It'll probably take them 5 minutes to unflag the items.

[thisisfarkinwar]

5 min?! 5 MIN?! its....been 4 i think

[-Demon-]

Yeah, servers are down for maintnance. The same japanese coundown that happend when Episode 4 was released. At least they give us countdowns now, on the beta they just booted ya.

[Chandler]

so thats wat has been passing in japanese, i hope i didnt lost my stuff, i was about to get a pd and then "error 101" darn it

[JACE]

I think we can get the rares in ep4 now but the quests r in ep4 r still the same

[-Demon-]

yeah i just got back on and still no 9-5... maybe they fixed the rares?

[JACE]

They only fixed the items glitch, i did 9-4 over again and still didn't get 9-5

[capola]

which glitch is fixed?

picking up EP4 rares or losing inventory via D/C ?

[JACE]

The glitch where u would try and pick up a rare but instead get dc'd

[DarkEpyon]

Got proof?

[JACE]

I found a mantis Infantry (i think thats its name) and i was able to pick it up without being dc'd

[Illyrius]

I heard from a friend that played the japanese version that 9-4 is where the quests are supposed to end for now. They're going to add the quests weekly like they did in the japanese version. If one of the mods can verify this it would be helpful.

[Starfurre]

lots of games have countdowns for maintainance, even free ones. I know the legendary age-old Runescape did.

and huzzah! the items be fixed! (rushes to vhard)

[Momonpso]

Got proof?

Proof: http://boards.sega.com/psobb/viewtopic.php?t=14171

[Miso Audio]

i cant even play what there is of ep 4 cuz my account was put on hold the day it was released due 2 a breach @ my moms bank so i wont b able 2 play until friday @ the soonest if im lucky -.-

and 2 think u peeps r bothered by incomplete ep 4

[James B]

i cant even play what there is of ep 4 cuz my account was put on hold the day it was released due 2 a breach @ my moms bank so i wont b able 2 play until friday @ the soonest if im lucky -.-

and 2 think u peeps r bothered by incomplete ep 4

I'm bothered by your aol speak.

[bigaboys]

DAS ma piece. EPISODE 4 IS WORSE THAN EPISODE 2. Bill Cosby is not wrong about this :):):):):)

[Miso Audio]

i cant even play what there is of ep 4 cuz my account was put on hold the day it was released due 2 a breach @ my moms bank so i wont b able 2 play until friday @ the soonest if im lucky -.-

and 2 think u peeps r bothered by incomplete ep 4

I'm bothered by your aol speak.

Well at least you didn't flame me about it. Perhaps I will consider refraining from such actions in the future so that I do not make the mistake of spelling and/or grammar errors when I intend to write in a formal way. Also, it is better for those that speak different languages and must translate text becauce translating "G2G" and "BRB" is something that I doubt an average translater does.


In other news, I like episode 2. >.<

It has more realistic playfields when it comes to the shape. The levels in episode 1 felt a bit too straightforward to me and enclosed,although I like the levels anyway.

[Kringshot]

i cant even play what there is of ep 4 cuz my account was put on hold the day it was released due 2 a breach @ my moms bank so i wont b able 2 play until friday @ the soonest if im lucky -.-

and 2 think u peeps r bothered by incomplete ep 4

I'm bothered by your aol speak.

Well at least you didn't flame me about it. Perhaps I will consider refraining from such actions in the future so that I do not make the mistake of spelling and/or grammar errors when I intend to write in a formal way. Also, it is better for those that speak different languages and must translate text becauce translating "G2G" and "BRB" is something that I doubt an average translater does.


In other news, I like episode 2. >.<

It has more realistic playfields when it comes to the shape. The levels in episode 1 felt a bit too straightforward to me and enclosed,although I like the levels anyway.

That was always my argument with Episode 2 and why it isn't actually cr*p. The levels (well past the VR stages, the VR stages do infact suck) are larger and more realistic, and doesn't give as much of a room-to-room feel about it, also the bosses are better.

Episode 4 increases on this more with huge open areas, lots of enemies and a less linear feel to it. In my opinion Episode 4 is already the best of the 3 (actually best of the 4 but Episode 3 really doesn't even count) despite being only 4 missions long. It'll beat the pants off of everything else though as more things get added over the weeks.

[JACE]

Yeah i agree that the VR area isn't all that good especially the temple its just too many mazes there. I heard that the first boss in ep4 is bigger than olga and falz combined but i doubt it. I can't wait for the other quests to come out.

[Opythia]

I heard there was a drop list floating around,,, can't find it

can someone throw me a bone?

Thanks

[Pakwan Kenobi]

PSO World, Message Boards, Ep 1&2 and Ep 4 Board, General Discussion, first page, thread says Ep 4 dropcharts.

CATCH!

pso-world.com

[Opythia]

cheww chew crunch .. slobber slobber, ... cheww cheww

[Opythia]

in my hunt thru that ribbon, i found this link thats pretty good.

http://www.oddigytitanium.com/tychopso/

[Miso Audio]

That was always my argument with Episode 2 and why it isn't actually cr*p. The levels (well past the VR stages, the VR stages do infact suck) are larger and more realistic, and doesn't give as much of a room-to-room feel about it, also the bosses are better.

Episode 4 increases on this more with huge open areas, lots of enemies and a less linear feel to it. In my opinion Episode 4 is already the best of the 3 (actually best of the 4 but Episode 3 really doesn't even count) despite being only 4 missions long. It'll beat the pants off of everything else though as more things get added over the weeks.

sounds cool! cant wait!

my only prob w/ seaside in ep 2 was the gees cuz they were annoying,but when they r all dead its cool

however im not saying that the gees were a bad idea or should b removed,im just saying that they hav annoying tactics

[SpyroDi]

Zu have even more annoying tactics than Gees do...I think that Gees have just been replaced on their spot on my Most Annoying Enemies list.

[Aeon]

Gees? Most annoying enemies? No, no. Morfos. Seriously. >_>

But yeah, Zu put them to shame too. May they all burn in the eternal flames of torment and such.

[Rpgwarlord]

Zu have even more annoying tactics than Gees do...I think that Gees have just been replaced on their spot on my Most Annoying Enemies list.

The diving is just annoying :P

[TelleT]

Nah, Zu's? Use mechguns on them + shifta&deband ;) fast kill :lol:

[Team Radish]

It's not hard for a Ranger to take on a Zu, in the right conditions. As long as I'm not being hounded by other enemies, it's easy to nab a shot on a Zu as they're diving towards me, causing them to stop. Also, shooting them makes them pause for quite enough time to take care of them without them making any other moves. They're only really annoying when they dive in one you while you're fighting other enemies, or when there's 3-4 of them at once.

Besides, if you hear one screeching and symboling a dive, all you gotta do is move 5 feet to the side and they won't hit you.

Gees aren't tough at all either, especially for a Ranger. Usually I pick them off with a rifle from a distance, far enough that they don't even see me and just stand still while I kill them. When they are close enough to see me, normally they only move in very tight formation, enough for me to kill them quickly. Actually, I think their robotic predecessors, the Cadines, are much worse. When they deploy low, they move around much quicker and circle around you much more than Gees. Plus they spawn in larger numbers usually, and all around you.

To be honest, I think all of these monsters are only tough for Hunters, who need monsters to be right in front of them to hit them at all :lol:

If you ask me, Satelite Lizards are some of the worst. As a Ranger, nothing's worse than shooting an enemy and having a crowd of lizards start to waddle slowly your way right in front of the enemy you were attacking, and absorbing all your fire. Deldepths are really annoying too, not only cause they're so fast, but they're really hard to target even when they do stop (just like Lizards)

[Rod]

I'd rather fight 100 Zus than 100 Ba Bootas. My RaBarta takes care of 2 or more Zus. If there's one, I cast Barta as he charges and finish him off with my Inferno Bazooka. Back on the Ba Bootas, I never though Foie Spamming would be that annoying. Could be worse though. Somehow, I get the feeling that in Ultimate the Ba Bootas will fire Megid in place of Foie. Let's hope not.

[Eccentric Nova]

That would be nasty :\

[VampireD]

I'd rather fight 100 Zus than 100 Ba Bootas. My RaBarta takes care of 2 or more Zus. If there's one, I cast Barta as he charges and finish him off with my Inferno Bazooka. Back on the Ba Bootas, I never though Foie Spamming would be that annoying. Could be worse though. Somehow, I get the feeling that in Ultimate the Ba Bootas will fire Megid in place of Foie. Let's hope not.

I'm pretty much the opposite, I'd rather fight 100 ba bootas cos my crush could take them out in no time

[Rod]

I'm pretty much the opposite, I'd rather fight 100 ba bootas cos my crush could take them out in no time

Hehe, I prefer the 100 Zus cuz my GiFoie is like a shield against theit dive bombs. Also RaBarta deals with those who get close =P

[VampireD]

ok correction to old post, replace crush with impact because of my recent find

[Hydra-]

canadines are free exp for forces, same with gees. i still dont like gees though, because they never spawn all at once. they make you stay in the same area as they spawn 3 after 3 and lower very VERY slowly every time

[moshpit]

any july schedule soon? :o

[Rod]

ok correction to old post, replace crush with impact because of my recent find

Congrats Vamp =P!!! Is it the Final Impact?

[Rpgwarlord]

Yeah we need a July schedule.

Not one with :

Monday - ST party
Tuesday- ST party
Wednesday -ST party
Thursday - 5 Hour server downtime
Friday - ST party
Saturday - ST party
Sunday - Wedding Music in Lobby again

xD You know, Id so laugh if it was like that.

[areia]

Lol; well what I would like to see is at least the first part of EP4 available for normal sequencial free play; I'm fed with playing the 9-? missions all over and over. That would include the boss too ;)
I'm glad though that rares became really rares this time; that's how it's supposed to be, not everybody having the same rare weapons. On the other hand the team points concept wouldn't work if everything was so rare... oh whatever :?

[VampireD]

ok correction to old post, replace crush with impact because of my recent find

Congrats Vamp =P!!! Is it the Final Impact?

Yup, I was extactic with finding it, thnx for the congratz, next target is......[Insert best rare ever here][Insert Evil Smiley]

[Tao Dragon]

Lol; well what I would like to see is at least the first part of EP4 available for normal sequencial free play; I'm fed with playing the 9-? missions all over and over. That would include the boss too ;)
I'm glad though that rares became really rares this time; that's how it's supposed to be, not everybody having the same rare weapons. On the other hand the team points concept wouldn't work if everything was so rare... oh whatever :?

I'm annoyed with this too. I think the reason they havent rleased even that area for general play is because there isn't yet a quest with the boss battle on yet. This is just a guess, so don't quote me on it

[Miso Audio]

i still havent been able to play episode 4 and i wont be able to until tommorow -.-

this is annoying

[Rpgwarlord]

i still havent been able to play episode 4 and i wont be able to until tommorow -.-

this is annoying

Nothing worth getting annoyed about Tbh. Overall it takes like 2 hour to get to 9-4 and you hardly get much story outta it and it feels repetative. Just gotta wait for the rest :/

However the scenery and music is rather good.

[Rod]

ST did what it's best for us when releasing the quest of ep4. Why? Trust me, if they had released all the quest of ep4 it would've been a much bigger disapointment. You want to know what's the final principal quest for ep4? 9-8, yes 4 more after 9-4 and no, I'm not drunk, I said 9-8.

I read the updates of the japanesse version on PSOWorld and it said that in 9-8 you fight the final boss of ep4. At least it has 2 rare forms (1 or 2, correct me if I'm wrong) to compensate it's just one. Imagine the whole community if all was released from start:

Some flodder with no life: WTF?! That's it?! It was delayed for this?!! 8 quest?! BS!! For that I'll make 87632457th pointless threads on the forums to express my anger and hate, not to mention I'll quit!!1!1!!

Alas that's the truth, the rest are mop up, endless nightmare, events and side-story quests. Sure, they'll add more side-quest to ep4 than ep1 and ep2, but it's to make it longer. Now, before you whine let me tell you a little secret. Come closer, don't be shy. Ready? Well here goes:

Ep4 is exactly like Ep2!!

How? Well allow me to explain you. What is a new area to you? For me, it's everything that meets 2 of these 3 requirements: new rares, new monsters, new enviroments. If we look at these requirements and apply them to ep2, then you can see it really has 2 new areas only: CCA and Seabed. They had new monsters and a new enviroment, maybe a few new rares, but they still had the old ones. The VR field was nothing but a recycled world, really. You can't call them new areas because really, they aren't. Is fighting Dimenians for the same old rare on a "new" enviroment something new? No it's not and you know it. Will it make a difference if we fight the Dimenians for the same old rares inside the SEGA HeadQuarters? No. It's the same old dog but with a different collar.

CCA and Seabed presented us with new areas to explore with new challenging monsters. And how many areas that makes? 2 if you passed arithmetic. And how many new areas does Ep4 has? OMG, it also has 2: Crater and Underground Desert. Considering CCA and Seabed were the only new areas to Ep2, I assume their respective principal's quest are new too, so we discard the VR principal's quest (They're also pointless IMO). Let's see, 5 quest on CCA and 3 on Seabed, so that makes 5+3=8 total new quest that Ep2 presented us. And how many new quest does Ep4 gives us? Why 8 also of course. Coincidence? I think not.

About the Central Control Tower (which would qualify as a new area if you look at it), that area was added later as online quests. So if we see new areas on Ep4 other than the Crater and Desert, it would be through that. So Ep2 has 2 new areas with 8 new principal's quest and Ep4 too. Only that Ep4 has the 3 requirements by giving us totally new rares in addition to the new monsters and new enviroment. Holy sh!t, Ep4 gives us even more than Ep2!! And people are complaining because...?

So you see, ST did it well by releasing only 1 area with 4 quest at the time. Honestly, that's even better than having to pass 2 recycled worlds before exploring the actually new ones. Seriously, no one really loves the VR fields (except fot the SpaceShip music >_>). People don't see this at start, but those with an open mind realize this. Imagine the chaos in the community if the 2 areas were released at the same time. They're the ones in control and what they did was best for us, they know what they're doing. And what's the rush? Can't you enjoy the game at a much slower pace? How many of you kept admiring the beatiful view of the sunset at the Crater? How many of you in Ep2 saw the Dolphin swiming in Seabed? Or even stopped to observe in detail the sparkling water at the Seaside?

So let us be grateful for what we have. With time, we will have more and it will be much better, so in the mean time enjoy the game. Besides, seeing as Ep4 rares are really rare we will be busy for a long time so I don't see why rushing the game progress will solve anything. Unless you have all the avaible Ep4 rares which it's just impossible at this time.

Lastly, I would like to thank all of those who actually bothered reading all of this. Have a nice day and good luck hunting those rares, I'm still busy getting my own V101 but hey, that's part of the game!

[Fabozzle]

i agree with you. remember before ep 4 was releaed there would be topics like"OMFG!! ive found every rare in the game!!"
with ep 4 it is almost impossible for someone to get every rare-so it keeps them busy and keeps them paying. i enjoy ep 4 and its insane drop rates-it keeps me playing*darn Yunchang*but it is enjoyable.
i also like those people who say"ep 4s enimies look like boomas!!!" if the meteor landed in forest and irradiated the boomas-wouldnt their new"selves"look like boomas?

[Aeon]

The choice was only between the "disappointment" of only having eight quests or the intense frustration at only having four available. Neither is preferable to the other.

And the insane drop rates on everything in ep4 actually put me off. XD I prefer ep1 for some reason; everything's familiar and the drops are naff but visible. Me likey. :3 I gave up on ep4 because Zu, Ba Bootas and Astarks just annoyed the heck out of me and weren't dropping anything anyways.

To endless Heat Sword runs! :O

[remnar]

Most of us are aware that Sega has and always has been giving better support and availablility to their own people than any other country; it's that obvious. It's like they are giving their own people the full meal course while throwing the rest of us the scraps that are left over. Now lets compare this to other jp companies like Square-Enix. Take Final Fantasy XI for instance. It's a game that was made cross platform and the same for every one including us. There was no scraps thrown to the americans or the EU, it was made all the same for every one. Yes it had bugs in the beginning. However in the last couple of years SE has made patches for every one w/o any bs or extra cost or making new versions for other platforms, etc etc. Do you see my point? Sega has something to nit pick about Americans and EU for some reason (maybe they hate us, they should pull out their bigot bugs from their :):):)). I like PSO and that's why I play it. But get this, PSO has existed for years. Now why is it that Sega is acting like they just invented it? Why do we still not have Ulimate mode that's existed since Dream cast? Why do we have very little team based quests (no TTF eitther) when there are tons on other systems? I have no idea. Maybe they are totally reinventing the wheel for PC? That could be the reason why PSO is the way it is. That's my 2cents anyway.

[Anti Hacker]

Well looking at the Ep 4 drop rates I cannot see a reason to go to Ep 4 in ultimate mode, I think I will stick with VHard for now and try to find that Yata mirror. I looked at that sunset view in ep4 as well as the one in VR Temple in ep2 and the scenery in the large rooms in seabed was pretty cool, it might pay to remember that although PSO is a fast paced RPG we should still admire the workings of the texture and model artists.

[Moonwraith]

PSO, by its nature, is a game based on repetition. If all the quests had been released, we'd still have 'I'm bored, release more content or I quit!' type topics.

In short, the people who get bored with what we have now, will most likely get bored again quickly with the content updates we will receive.

[Zarthor]

hey how do u know there is only 2 new areas to episode 4 i know u said u read the japanese site or summit but can u read japanese and how do we know we can take ur word for it how silly are you we can only do up to 9-4 which means it could go up up to 12-5 for all we know only 8 new quests on episode 4 u say aswell what 8 quest theres 4 for now all we need to do is wait for a gm to post an announcement to tell what the hell is going on i am annoyed and im sure other people are but we will find out if theres more to episode 4

[UrikoBB3]

As far as I know, Episode 4 is just Crater (the various routes, and interior), and Subterranean Desert, which isn't released yet. Not that I have a problem with that.

[Kringshot]

hey how do u know there is only 2 new areas to episode 4 i know u said u read the japanese site or summit but can u read japanese and how do we know we can take ur word for it how silly are you we can only do up to 9-4 which means it could go up up to 12-5 for all we know only 8 new quests on episode 4 u say aswell what 8 quest theres 4 for now all we need to do is wait for a gm to post an announcement to tell what the hell is going on i am annoyed and im sure other people are but we will find out if theres more to episode 4

http://www.planetdreamcast.com/psoworld/

If you check the News archives, PSO World posted updates as the Japanese Version was released. And considering this is the same game, we are getting 2 areas and 8 quests just like their version does. And it's in English, yay.
Also, level your grammar please.

((Edited: Typo))

[Viridis]

Is fighting Dimenians for the same old rare on a "new" enviroment something new?

if the guide i'm using is right the drops change between ep 1 and 2 for most ID's, for example i'm whitill, on v.hard ruins i get a diska of liberator from a diminian yet in v.hard temple i get a bloody art which i can ONLY get from that creature (according to this anyway http://www.oddigytitanium.com/tychopso/DropchartsV3.html)

[Kringshot]

Is fighting Dimenians for the same old rare on a "new" enviroment something new?

if the guide i'm using is right the drops change between ep 1 and 2 for most ID's, for example i'm whitill, on v.hard ruins i get a diska of liberator from a diminian yet in v.hard temple i get a bloody art which i can ONLY get from that creature (according to this anyway http://www.oddigytitanium.com/tychopso/DropchartsV3.html)

Yeah but the rares were still accesible in Episode 1, meaning they arn't new.

Also, I live near Ashford in Kent, woo!

[Viridis]

yeah i get what he means by they arn't new, but it's nice to know i can at least find something else instead of all of the same old rares i could before

cool :) lot's of people from kent play :)

[Rod]

hey how do u know there is only 2 new areas to episode 4 i know u said u read the japanese site or summit but can u read japanese and how do we know we can take ur word for it how silly are you we can only do up to 9-4 which means it could go up up to 12-5 for all we know only 8 new quests on episode 4 u say aswell what 8 quest theres 4 for now all we need to do is wait for a gm to post an announcement to tell what the hell is going on i am annoyed and im sure other people are but we will find out if theres more to episode 4

Because, Einstein, although I don't know Japanesse some people do and have translated some parts. Also the quest have numbers so seeing something like this: 9-8 (Final Boss) it's not hard to understand provided you have a brain. The 2 new areas by now are Crater and Underground Desert. Also please learn proper grammar, my eyes hurt.

[Miso Audio]

i still havent been able to play episode 4 and i wont be able to until tommorow -.-

this is annoying

Nothing worth getting annoyed about Tbh. Overall it takes like 2 hour to get to 9-4 and you hardly get much story outta it and it feels repetative. Just gotta wait for the rest :/

However the scenery and music is rather good.

but i still want to level up,i am falling behind because i dont get to play too much as things are without this problem...i have a level 39 fomarl and 30 fonewearl...im having a new problem now...it wont let me change the credit card number T -T

[Zarthor]

ROD WROTE:

[/quote]Because, Einstein, although I don't know Japanesse some people do and have translated some parts. Also the quest have numbers so seeing something like this: 9-8 (Final Boss) it's not hard to understand provided you have a brain. The 2 new areas by now are Crater and Underground Desert. Also please learn proper grammar, my eyes hurt.[/quote]

sorry im bad at grammar but no need to slag me and what the hell is that to do wi episode 4 i mean 8 quests thats boring i thought it be more than that i think we neeed more modes like challenge and stuff cause were paying for the game whilst there still constructing it :evil: :twisted:

[Rod]

sorry im bad at grammar but no need to slag me and what the hell is that to do wi episode 4 i mean 8 quests thats boring i thought it be more than that i think we neeed more modes like challenge and stuff cause were paying for the game whilst there still constructing it :evil: :twisted:

Challenge Mode, Battle Mode and Ultimate Mode are being worked on as we post and the Ep4 quest too. Also, if you read my post and looked closely to Ep2, you can see that it only gives us 8 new principal's quest with 2 new worlds. Just like Ep4 only that we get new rares also.

The reason there weren't many (or none) new rares on Ep2 was because it was originally released as Ver2 and most of the code had to match Ep1's (Ver1) database. If you could get a new rare on Ep2 and brough it to Ep1 then the programing code might get damaged. It's like when Pokemon Gold and Silver were made, you could trade the old Pokemon but you couldn't bring anything new to the old versions because they weren't programed in the old version's database. Simple and logical.

Technology is different now and it's why we can get a new rare in Ep4 and bring it to Ep1 and Ep2 with no problem. Those new rares were implemented in Ep1 and Ep2 Blue Burst's code (or database) when the game was being made. Not to mention that since this is an Online Game only, everything can be fixed with patches. Who knows, maybe we'll get a new patch in the future with new rares!

As for rushing the game progress, I must say that I've had experience with Game Making programs and making a game is no simple task, especially an Online Action RPG game like PSOBB. Heck, is even hard to make a plataformer that only you can play. So just be patient, they're humans too and we have our limitations. Just because they work in the videogame industry doesn't mean they play all day and only work when they feel like it. I can assure that playing videogames is the least they do.

Also, if you go to a College (or a Technological Institute) and look at the classes you need to take in order to be a game programer, you'll see that the videogame business is no walk in the park. Some examples are Calculus, Physics, C++, Chemistry (everyone takes that one =P) and many more. Working in the videogame industry is not about playing, but about creating games. I suggest you (and all those whining for the different modes) get a Game Making program and spend some time with it. After all, the best way to understand someone is to be on their shoes. Oh, and many of those programs don't require programing skills, but that's another story (lol Syntax Error, I hate that one). And before you ask, the videogame industry is the path I chose for my future even though it is challenging. Hope that makes you understand the situation.

Imagine what the workers at ST would be thinking if they knew how ungrateful most of the users are. They're working hard to provide us entertaintment and here we are acting all bossy. Sometimes I even wonder what Clumsy thinks about us when we say that the game is garbage and such. So let us be grateful of what we have and enjoy the game as it is by now, it'll get even better later! Oh, and the reason I made a big deal about your grammar errors was because your reply sounded like a flame. Don't know if that was your purpose but that's how I interpreted it. Have a Good day.

[puppyrampage]

sorry im bad at grammar but no need to slag me and what the hell is that to do wi episode 4 i mean 8 quests thats boring i thought it be more than that i think we neeed more modes like challenge and stuff cause were paying for the game whilst there still constructing it :evil: :twisted:

Challenge Mode, Battle Mode and Ultimate Mode are being worked on as we post and the Ep4 quest too. Also, if you read my post and looked closely to Ep2, you can see that it only gives us 8 new principal's quest with 2 new worlds. Just like Ep4 only that we get new rares also.

The reason there weren't many (or none) new rares on Ep2 was because it was originally released as Ver2 and most of the code had to match Ep1's (Ver1) database. If you could get a new rare on Ep2 and brough it to Ep1 then the programing code might get damaged. It's like when Pokemon Gold and Silver were made, you could trade the old Pokemon but you couldn't bring anything new to the old versions because they weren't programed in the old version's database. Simple and logical.

Technology is different now and it's why we can get a new rare in Ep4 and bring it to Ep1 and Ep2 with no problem. Those new rares were implemented in Ep1 and Ep2 Blue Burst's code (or database) when the game was being made. Not to mention that since this is an Online Game only, everything can be fixed with patches. Who knows, maybe we'll get a new patch in the future with new rares!

As for rushing the game progress, I must say that I've had experience with Game Making programs and making a game is no simple task, especially an Online Action RPG game like PSOBB. Heck, is even hard to make a plataformer that only you can play. So just be patient, they're humans too and we have our limitations. Just because they work in the videogame industry doesn't mean they play all day and only work when they feel like it. I can assure that playing videogames is the least they do.

Also, if you go to a College (or a Technological Institute) and look at the classes you need to take in order to be a game programer, you'll see that the videogame business is no walk in the park. Some examples are Calculus, Physics, C++, Chemistry (everyone takes that one =P) and many more. Working in the videogame industry is not about playing, but about creating games. I suggest you (and all those whining for the different modes) get a Game Making program and spend some time with it. After all, the best way to understand someone is to be on their shoes. Oh, and many of those programs don't require programing skills, but that's another story (lol Syntax Error, I hate that one). And before you ask, the videogame industry is the path I chose for my future even though it is challenging. Hope that makes you understand the situation.

Imagine what the workers at ST would be thinking if they knew how ungrateful most of the users are. They're working hard to provide us entertaintment and here we are acting all bossy. Sometimes I even wonder what Clumsy thinks about us when we say that the game is garbage and such. So let us be grateful of what we have and enjoy the game as it is by now, it'll get even better later! Oh, and the reason I made a big deal about your grammar errors was because your reply sounded like a flame. Don't know if that was your purpose but that's how I interpreted it. Have a Good day.

Ep2 was never part of PSO ver2. Ver2 added challenge, battle, Ult,
lvl 200, and other related sundries. Ep2 was introduced in GC/XB,
'Episode 1 & 2', sometimes known as ver3. AFAIK, these versions
never 'communicated' with the same servers as the ver1/2s. So
if there were, in fact, any 'compatability' problems, it would've
been from laziness in recoding the game on the new platforms to
handle them.

There were, however, such compatability problems between ver1 and
ver2s, since the same servers were used. Ep2 never figured into it
though - just the stuff that was in ver2 that ver1 didn't support. Before
hammering others with 'facts', please make an effort to be somewhat
clear on them.

That said, you don't need a BA in Video Game Design(your post sounded
like you just graduated from the Dave School or something. ^_-) to
have an opinion on something you're paying money for. The act of
paying a company for a service, entitles you to lean on them to some
degree, to provide the level of service you think you're paying for. If
you aren't getting what you think you deserve, you're well within your
rights to complain about it and insist on better.

Of course, if it persists for a long enough time, and you're still endlessly
complaining about the service while using the service(and you have
other options), THEN it becomes a fault. After a certain period of time,
complaining should give way to voting with your feet.

[Rod]

Well I never played Ver2, only Ep1 and Ep2 on GC. Thanks for clearing that up for me. And no, I still don't have a BA in VideoGame Design yet =P Still, working in a game is hard work.

[remnar]

Yes, a lot of us are aware that making games takes a lot of skill and talent; however that isnt the point in this case. The point I tried making before is that the game was already invented and why the hell are we lacking all thats already been made unless porting to PC is impossible and they have to reinvent the wheel?

[[Hitoshi]]

Well I never played Ver2, only Ep1 and Ep2 on GC. Thanks for clearing that up for me. And no, I still don't have a BA in VideoGame Design yet =P Still, working in a game is hard work.
Yeah but you were talking about programming a system.. that would be a BSc. The BA courses are modelling based.

[Flurg]

Any idea when more ep 4 is coming out?: (

[Kringshot]

Any idea when more ep 4 is coming out?: (

CONGRATULATIONS!

You are our 1000th customer to ask about the further release of Episode 4!

Your Prize:

Be freaking patient and wait for a new announcements thread telling everyone the planned updates.

[shynforce]

Yea i dont agree with this either we should already have ult battle mode and c mode maybe not all c modes yet but should have the first couple stages. There making it seem like ult is something new its been there since ver2. I mean im not complaining and i will continue to play but i dont plan on waiting months just for ult we should also have some endless nightmares already. If its taking this long for ult i cant imagine how long it will take to get new quest.

Like i said im not complaining theres still things i need from vhard, god units and a cure freeze but i dont plan on playing vhard till october or september i expect to get ult this month, theres no reason for us to wait on ult/battle mode/c mode i could understand them locking it for beta but not the full version. It seems like the japanese community get treated better than the US community they had vhard during beta and when beta ended got ult right from the back plus all these quest and always getting updates. Seems like the US psobb community getting the short end of the stick and thats not fair at all. Me and plenty other pso players been supporting pso since dc days we shouldnt be treated like crap.

Read on pso-world japanese version got another update also had some 2x drop rate for ep4 it ended but then again we did just get ep4 so im not gonna complain about that. Im mainly complaining about waiting this long for a mode we already had since version2 and it seem that the japanese community is getting treated way better than the US community and thats simply not fair at all. This is my fav online rpg i fininally get a version legit free and it seems like ST dont care for us US pso players:(

[Rpgwarlord]

Makes me wish I was JP >.>

[Ash]

Makes me wish I was JP >.>

Jealouse of moi? :lol:

Too bad I live in America :/

[Rpgwarlord]

Makes me wish I was JP >.>

Jealouse of moi? :lol:

Too bad I live in America :/

Im jealous of you living in America too, wanna move there when im older, depending if you lot aint been nuked by then.

I doubt the British aint gonna help Bush much more after his "Dont expect any favors" remark lmao Politics make me laugh :D

[Ash]

<_< Down with Politics!!

...Up with C-Mode and Ultimate! :P

[SB]

OK so what havnt they told us that they are doing/fixing now, i just got DCed again with a 903 going on?

[deathknight22]

yes me too, I am very :):):):)ed, I was in the caves, and I sware, I was fighting one of those rare lillies, and I got dc

[Judgement]

Heh. Same thing...the PSO Patch and Game Server are offline...I hope this means ultimate mode. I'm very optimistic.

[deathknight22]

I was thinking the same thing ^^ I hope they are putting it in... I hope

[Kristy]

I hope this means more Episode 4

[EBS_Darc]

some people are still online :\ either that or people are full of crap around here

[Lute]

well thats good enough reason..for me to go outside and enjoy the weather..

[Judgement]

I agree with you, it should be up by now :(

[Audigy]

Is fighting Dimenians for the same old rare on a "new" enviroment something new?

if the guide i'm using is right the drops change between ep 1 and 2 for most ID's, for example i'm whitill, on v.hard ruins i get a diska of liberator from a diminian yet in v.hard temple i get a bloody art which i can ONLY get from that creature (according to this anyway http://www.oddigytitanium.com/tychopso/DropchartsV3.html)

could you please edit this post so it doesn't return a 404, so people stop clicking on it and filling up my error file? hahaha :P

[Metallix]

>_>

[Question]

Heh. Same thing...the PSO Patch and Game Server are offline...I hope this means ultimate mode. I'm very optimistic.

Too bad theres no ult.

[Aeon]

Ult doesn't even exist, it's just a figment of our imagination. That would explain it.

[Chandler]

Ult. exits... i just hope SEGA will release it very soon. this is anoying: people above lv 100 cant get a decent challenge.. they would if only ep4 was completed so what i think is that SEGA should release ultimate mode/remaining ep4 quests.. or also batle/challenge modes (specialy the battle)