who would like PSU to come to XBOX360?

[SB]

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/412585269 please sign if you do, thanks ever so.

[Moonwraith]

I don't really care since my PC will handle PSU anyway, but good luck. They may well port it in the future, perhaps as a new version.

[Zolmer]

no i dont because there wont be much of a userbase on xbox360 meaning less users :(

and i dont own an xbox either so i dont...

[Kuraigu]

I have one so yeah I'd consider buying it /sign

[Shocker]

I don't really care since my PC will handle PSU anyway

[Kurai]

no because it'll end up with better graphics than my version on PC and i dont want that >:) (and... im never gna get a 360 :( )

[Mags Float On Strings]

Hell no!o_O

360 is so damn unstable, and the voice function would :):):):) me off.

[Starman]

Think i'd prefer GC/Revolution support.

Still PC will do fine for now :)

[ShinMaruku]

Screw the PC and the 360! I'll be playing this on my PS3! :P

[sephiroth99]

Screw the PC and the 360! I'll be playing this on my PS3! :P
does ps3 already come internet ready so u dont need to but any add ons?

[Damone]

Don't care if there's an Xbox 360 version, so long as Sonic Team doesn't completely forget about the us PC/PS2 users should an xbox 360 version ever see the light of day.

[ShinMaruku]

Screw the PC and the 360! I'll be playing this on my PS3! :P
does ps3 already come internet ready so u dont need to but any add ons?
Yes they'd have to implement that feature into it,seeing as all the new PS2s have that feautre.

[Mags Float On Strings]

Screw the PC and the 360! I'll be playing this on my PS3! :P
does ps3 already come internet ready so u dont need to but any add ons?

Like the slim ps2, the ps3 is built with a ethernet port.

[Damone]

I live in Ireland, and I don't know a single person who has an internet ready non-slim Playstation 2, haha, heck everyone I know with a slim PS2 doesn’t use it for online play either.

It'll probably be a repeat of the GC modem/BB adapter incident over here, BB adapters over here were as rare as Leprechauns are in other parts of the world :P

Back in the PSO ep l&ll days you’d walk into a shop asking for a GC modem/BB adapter and the shop assistant would look at you all funny; “The Gamecube can connect to the internets?!”

[Kuraigu]

I live in Ireland, and I don't know a single person who has an internet ready non-slim Playstation 2, haha, heck everyone I know with a slim PS2 doesn’t use it for online play either.

It'll probably be a repeat of the GC modem/BB adapter incident over here, BB adapters over here were as rare as Leprechauns are in other parts of the world :P

Back in the PSO ep l&ll days you’d walk into a shop asking for a GC modem/BB adapter and the shop assistant would look at you all funny; “The Gamecube can connect to the internets?!”

Yeah I know what you mean about the GC network adapter I think they're pretty rare now.
If it wasn't for me having to buy that adapter for £40 odd I would've played online on my gc

[ShinMaruku]

Now tha foo's who talk bout PC crspness can go harakari

[End it all]

/sign

[Edin_Hummel]

Screw the PC and the 360! I'll be playing this on my PS3! :P
does ps3 already come internet ready so u dont need to but any add ons? Yes, it will both be able to do wired and wireless internet conections

[Set]

The petition will fail. It is set in stone. Putting PSU on PS2 and PC alone is a business move on Sega's part. They are sticking to the machines with the largest userbase. Producing for XBOX 360 or any nextgen consoles prematurely would be a bad move. That is that.

[foreignreign]

I'd actually prefer having Xbox360 port than a PS2 port because it'd be easier to make patches for PSU that way.

But I'll probably get PSU for the PC either way, so meh.

[StriferFox]

Im not for the xbox 360 , since im worried there will be 1000million hackers.Considering the servers will be connected that would cause a proplem.

[Phantasy Star Monthly]

Its not confirmed yet, but since there's something flying around that you can use the same account on both PS2 and PC, i wouldn't be surprised.

[Kuraigu]

It's saying on psoworld psu will come to 360 a few months after ps2 release :D
I'll still prob. get it for pc but I may get it for xbox 360 as well If character linking works well.

[Mags Float On Strings]

Screw the PC and the 360! I'll be playing this on my PS3! :P

Go ahead and pay about $400-and up just for one game.

[Damone]

It's saying on psoworld psu will come to 360 a few months after ps2 release :D

Still only an EGM rumour, not officially announced yet, imo though a 360 version is looking more and more likely, I'll still only play the PC version however, frankly my PC kicks the crap outta the 360.

[Set]

It's saying on psoworld psu will come to 360 a few months after ps2 release :D

Still only an EGM rumour, not officially announced yet, imo though a 360 version is looking more and more likely, I'll still only play the PC version however, frankly my PC kicks the crap outta the 360.

I don't think its looking "more and more likely" The idea of PSU coming out for X360 is based on success with the PC and PS2 userbases. If those do well, then the likelihood of PSU being released for the 360 will take a considerable leap. You have to remember that Sega is trying to make good business moves. And psu coming out on 360 after the ps2 release is not likely. 360 is 'next gen' (it is actually just an upgrade not using any new technology really). Releasing a non-next-gen game for next-gen so quickly is not a smart move unles the primary user bases (ps2, PC) prove themselves such a success that the risk of releasing for 360 becomes acceptable and won't damage the company profits much it it flops on 360. Sega is covering all the bases this time around. They don't want to slip up. If PSU fairs about average on ps2 and PC, don't expect a 360 release. However, if it is a hit, a 360 controlled release (limited production to test the waters, or just limited production period scince 360 probably doesn't have much of a userbase for games like PSU) should be expected. If it is a hit in the the first few months, expect a quick 360 release to carry over the games momentum and the buzz surrounding it (that would be the best case scenario seeing as that would maximize profits.) It only makes sense that the rumor would arise. But it is a big "IF" thing if you know what I mean. But I'm seeing at this point a 40-70% chance that it is released on the 360. And, yes I know. That is quite a range.

[Mags Float On Strings]

It's saying on psoworld psu will come to 360 a few months after ps2 release :D

Still only an EGM rumour, not officially announced yet, imo though a 360 version is looking more and more likely, I'll still only play the PC version however, frankly my PC kicks the crap outta the 360.

o_o Yeah, A tricore IBM Power PC 3.0 ghz CPU, and a GPU based on the Radeon x1900, yeah...

[Damone]

o_o Yeah, A tricore IBM Power PC 3.0 ghz CPU, and a GPU based on the Radeon x1900, yeah...

The main reason why I think PC kicks the crap outta the 360 right now is because of the back catalogue of quality games available on PC, there's no present 360 games that I would even consider buying, and looking down the line nothing really interests me either (bar halo 3 and Gears of war), anyways my current PC set up is...

2.0GB PC2-5300 667MHz ram
P4 670 3.8 GHz
Raptor 150GB 10,000rpm 15mb cache HDD
ASUS ATI x1900xtx 512mb

[Durakken]

Don't care whether it comes out for x360 or not. It prolly will though as it's not that hard to port as they'll prolly make it for JP fans

[Kuraigu]

o_o Yeah, A tricore IBM Power PC 3.0 ghz CPU, and a GPU based on the Radeon x1900, yeah...

The main reason why I think PC kicks the crap outta the 360 right now is because of the back catalogue of quality games available on PC, there's no present 360 games that I would even consider buying, and looking down the line nothing really interests me either (bar halo 3 and Gears of war), anyways my current PC set up is...

2.0GB PC2-5300 667MHz ram
P4 670 3.8 GHz
Raptor 150GB 10,000rpm 15mb cache HDD
ASUS ATI x1900xtx 512mb
Xbox 360 wins.

[Damone]

Xbox 360 wins.

Not until it has counterstike source it doesn't :lol:

[Kuraigu]

Xbox 360 wins.

Not until it has counterstike source it doesn't :lol:
Mind despite it being good It's hardly got high requirements.

[SLICER]

Personally, I love my 360 and having PSU on it will make me supremely happy...

But then again, it probably won't... my PC is fine anyway...

I have PS2... but I would have never purchased it (old Xmas gift that my bro got) and the only reason why it is in my room was because last year I played DW5 on it... O_O




OR if if you skipped over my Post...


XBOX 360 FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ShinMaruku]

Screw the PC and the 360! I'll be playing this on my PS3! :P

Go ahead and pay about $400-and up just for one game.


I'm a spoiled little boy. Either way, some people might want to buy a new $600+ pc for this and the 360 is $400, so don't bring that on me. Anyway, DMC4, Hevaenly Sword, GT, FF, Sonic and MGS justify my PS3 purchase. and I'm spoiled so there :mrgreen:

[Mags Float On Strings]

o_o Yeah, A tricore IBM Power PC 3.0 ghz CPU, and a GPU based on the Radeon x1900, yeah...

The main reason why I think PC kicks the crap outta the 360 right now is because of the back catalogue of quality games available on PC, there's no present 360 games that I would even consider buying, and looking down the line nothing really interests me either (bar halo 3 and Gears of war), anyways my current PC set up is...

2.0GB PC2-5300 667MHz ram
P4 670 3.8 GHz
Raptor 150GB 10,000rpm 15mb cache HDD
ASUS ATI x1900xtx 512mb
Xbox 360 wins.

A p4 only has one core.>_> and if it's an ATI chip put on an Asus Graphics board, or any other brand name, then the strongest in terms of it would be a video card by ATI, or VisionTek Radeon cards.Plus, I don't see what the big deal is on the Counter Strike Source.To me, it hoesnlt doesn't look that great.o_O Details on it look like poop.

[Damone]

A p4 only has one core.>_> and if it's an ATI chip put on an Asus Graphics board, or any other brand name, then the strongest in terms of it would be a video card by ATI, or VisionTek Radeon cards.Plus, I don't see what the big deal is on the Counter Strike Source.To me, it hoesnlt doesn't look that great.o_O Details on it look like poop.

No no, people misunderstood, I'm not saying counter strike source looks amazing, I'm saying it's one of my favourite games; game play wise, and my original point was I prefer PC to the 360 based on each system's present and future line-up of games.

Anyways, no games currently use multi core processors, I could go out and but a dual core processor tomorrow, but there's no point until developer start to utilize them, and although the 360 is a tri core system, a lot of developers don’t currently want to go down the multi threaded route because it increases the work load and the present games industry doesn't demand it of them. I do realise that's all going to change in the future though, and then 360 has the potential to be amazing, but what I'm saying is with the 360's present/future line-up of games as of right now I won't be buying a 360 anytime soon. Graphics aside, games make the system for me.

On-topic to the discussion; if I had an xbox 360 as well as a PC, and had the choice of playing PSU on either system, I'd choose PC because of my own personal preference.

[Mags Float On Strings]

Actually there is a Patch for Quake 4 to take advantage of Dual CPUs, or Dual cores.The reason for this being, is because Quake 4 on the 360 also takes advantage of the tricore CPU for faster loading time.For people like me with a single core CPU, Quake 4 sucks to load.=|

[Damone]

Actually there is a Patch for Quake 4 to take advantage of Dual CPUs, or Dual cores.The reason for this being, is because Quake 4 on the 360 also takes advantage of the tricore CPU for faster loading time. For people like me with a single core CPU, Quake 4 sucks to load.=|

Aha interesting, now that I didn't know :oops:
Call of duty 2 also loads significantly faster on the 360 if I'm not mistaken.

[Trot]

Yes
Have you seen the article in xbox today about this very subject !!
http://www.xboxtoday.ca/02142006/15/phantasy_star_online_heading_to_xbox_360

P.S. Love my Xbox 360 !!!!! Playing ffxi beta right now

[Kuraigu]

Yes
Have you seen the article in xbox today about this very subject !!
http://www.xboxtoday.ca/02142006/15/phantasy_star_online_heading_to_xbox_360

P.S. Love my Xbox 360 !!!!! Playing ffxi beta right now
I never really bother starting that ff11 on my 360 even though I have it installed..
I dunno if I'll ever get round to playing it..
DoA4 ftw

[megamatt]

Pc has crap for games, and that's not just an opinion that's a fact. If you want to play anything besides the occasional good FPS or an MMORPG, all that's left is nerd intensive SIM games and RTS. Not that These genres are bad in themselves but it's about some degree of variety. And my Xbox 360 looks a hell of a lot better than my comp on my 36" LCD. I'll take Infection and Onslaught in PDZ over CSS any day.

But back on topic PSU is coming out for 360. Q didn't say "sources tell me" or "it's possible", he said, and I quote,


"...PSU will also arrive on the Xbox 360. Oh, one more thing: If you start playing the game on Sony's console, you will be able to transfer your online character - thanks to all stats and items being saved on Sega's servers - to the Xbox 360 version (which will hit a few months after the PS2 instalment)."

Does that sound like conjecture? No. It would be against most standards of journalism and stupid besides to put in print a maybe and state it as fact. You PC fanboys and xbox360 haters can believe what you want, but XBOX 360 and XBOX live is the best way to play games online. And I'm NOT an M$ fanboy, they simply have the best online service. I have a current pc and ALL the consoles, I just know that out of the 3 versions of PSO I have played, xbox was the most fun, and yes the cheating sucked, but sega learned their lesson and now it's going to be great.

If they ever release it at all that is.

[Kuraigu]

pdz infection+onslought ftw
Agreed

[Ted_E_Bear]

That'd be sweet if it came out on the 360. I know it's a rumor right now but who knows, maybe E3 they'll announce it?

I dont have a PS2 anymore and I haven't upgraded my PC in two years :oops:

[Kuraigu]

Even if it does come out on 360 I'll probably get it for my pc because it'll be easier to use w/ the keyboard etc.

[Durakken]

the new PC i'm building will be able to play the PC version and i'll also be able to hook up my PS2 and play it via my PC AND if i decide to get X-Box 360 i'll be able to hook that up too >.< and play all three at once...and still have a screen available to surf the net

[Kuraigu]

the new PC i'm building will be able to play the PC version and i'll also be able to hook up my PS2 and play it via my PC AND if i decide to get X-Box 360 i'll be able to hook that up too >.< and play all three at once...and still have a screen available to surf the net
Hurrah for the internets!

[NightSkys]

If it came out for the 360 i would get it for that but if it doesnt ill just play it on my pc :D

[Wolfjazz]

its honestly not that hard for a computer to out beat the xbox 360 graphics or for any other video game system. The PC has been out for so much longer than the systems that it will take them years to be able to compete with computer graphics. Xbox tried to compete with the PC but they didnt want to make it so your carrying around a 20 pound crate with you everywhere you go. The video game systems are good for people who dont like using computers and want a simple system in which they can have some fun. PSU should go to the 360 for people who dont feel like dealing with computers.

[dragonrazor]

the game is more likely to be released on the Revolution than the 360...after all, the hardware for the 360 is all but identical to the original

[Kuraigu]

the hardware for the 360 is all but identical to the original
So you worked that out how?

[dragonrazor]

ebil system specs << the only real enhancements are the addition of wireless, which is pretty much useless. i'll stick with my PS2 for PSU, since i can't see spending extra money for online play for TWO games

[Kuraigu]

Well the system specs are completely different so you've fail.

[Set]

X360 is hardly "nextgen" if you think about the sense of the word anyhow (dependent on how you use the word). If you use the word simply as a grade of performance, then it is. But technologically it isn't. It is just an upgrade of the XBox. PS3, however, utilizes new technology and is totally different from the PS2 in that sense and lives up to the performance of nextgen as well. Its a definition things.

[Durakken]

except PS costs waaaay too much, doesn't work, uses expensive medium, and also has more shyt hat than you'll ever use.

Next generation means the next gerenation of consoles which is determined by a 5 year cycle. It states really nothing about how advanced the technology is and really the onplace you can go with graphics now adays is speed and VR and i don't think either are really going there so by your definition none of em are next gen tech.

[Kuraigu]

PS3, however, utilizes new technology and is totally different from the PS2 in that sense and lives up to the performance of nextgen as well. Its a definition things.
Omg Blu ray discs which they won't put to/good use 111!!1

[Set]

PS3, however, utilizes new technology and is totally different from the PS2 in that sense and lives up to the performance of nextgen as well. Its a definition things.
Omg Blu ray discs which they won't put to/good use 111!!1

I wasn't mentioning what type of discs would be used. I'm talking about within the console itself.

[Kuraigu]

PS3, however, utilizes new technology and is totally different from the PS2 in that sense and lives up to the performance of nextgen as well. Its a definition things.
Omg Blu ray discs which they won't put to/good use 111!!1

I wasn't mentioning what type of discs would be used. I'm talking about within the console itself.
Yes and the xbox 360 has nextgen technology in it.
Do you see last generations consoles with 3 processing cores?

[Set]

except PS costs waaaay too much, doesn't work, uses expensive medium, and also has more shyt hat than you'll ever use.

Next generation means the next gerenation of consoles which is determined by a 5 year cycle. It states really nothing about how advanced the technology is and really the onplace you can go with graphics now adays is speed and VR and i don't think either are really going there so by your definition none of em are next gen tech.

Its supposed to cost the same amount of X360 supposedly. And I guess the 5 year cycle thing is true. But what I meant about new tech was the mainly the core thingy which is probably going to be a pain in the :):):) for developers, but it is new nonetheless. And the thing about there being more things than someone'll ever use is true too. But it seems like Microsoft is taking the same approach so far. And as far as I know, PS3 doesn't require the use of expensive mediums, though it can utilize them.

[Set]

PS3, however, utilizes new technology and is totally different from the PS2 in that sense and lives up to the performance of nextgen as well. Its a definition things.
Omg Blu ray discs which they won't put to/good use 111!!1

I wasn't mentioning what type of discs would be used. I'm talking about within the console itself.
Yes and the xbox 360 has nextgen technology in it.
Do you see last generations consoles with 3 processing cores?

That is just an increase in number not new technology.

[Kuraigu]

PS3, however, utilizes new technology and is totally different from the PS2 in that sense and lives up to the performance of nextgen as well. Its a definition things.
Omg Blu ray discs which they won't put to/good use 111!!1

I wasn't mentioning what type of discs would be used. I'm talking about within the console itself.
Yes and the xbox 360 has nextgen technology in it.
Do you see last generations consoles with 3 processing cores?

That is just an increase in number not new technology.
So please give an example of new technology on ps3?
Omg faster processor, that's just a number.

[Set]

PS3, however, utilizes new technology and is totally different from the PS2 in that sense and lives up to the performance of nextgen as well. Its a definition things.
Omg Blu ray discs which they won't put to/good use 111!!1

I wasn't mentioning what type of discs would be used. I'm talking about within the console itself.
Yes and the xbox 360 has nextgen technology in it.
Do you see last generations consoles with 3 processing cores?

That is just an increase in number not new technology.
So please give an example of new technology on ps3?
Omg faster processor, that's just a number.

I wasn't mentioning the speed. The cell technology is new (that is what I meant by core), I think that is what they called it anyways. Microsoft took what it had already used and just buffed it up, thus I called it an upgrade. The cell is completely new and is not used in any of Sony's old systems and thus I called it new tech.

[Kuraigu]

PS3, however, utilizes new technology and is totally different from the PS2 in that sense and lives up to the performance of nextgen as well. Its a definition things.
Omg Blu ray discs which they won't put to/good use 111!!1

I wasn't mentioning what type of discs would be used. I'm talking about within the console itself.
Yes and the xbox 360 has nextgen technology in it.
Do you see last generations consoles with 3 processing cores?

That is just an increase in number not new technology.
So please give an example of new technology on ps3?
Omg faster processor, that's just a number.

I wasn't mentioning the speed. The cell technology is new (that is what I meant by core), I think that is what they called it anyways. Microsoft took what it had already used and just buffed it up, thus I called it an upgrade. The cell is completely new and is not used in any of Sony's old systems and thus I called it new tech.
A 3 core processor running at something like 3 ghz is the same as a buffed up xbox processor?
I could argue that ps3 processor is a new buffed up ps2 processor..

[Set]

PS3, however, utilizes new technology and is totally different from the PS2 in that sense and lives up to the performance of nextgen as well. Its a definition things.
Omg Blu ray discs which they won't put to/good use 111!!1

I wasn't mentioning what type of discs would be used. I'm talking about within the console itself.
Yes and the xbox 360 has nextgen technology in it.
Do you see last generations consoles with 3 processing cores?

That is just an increase in number not new technology.
So please give an example of new technology on ps3?
Omg faster processor, that's just a number.

I wasn't mentioning the speed. The cell technology is new (that is what I meant by core), I think that is what they called it anyways. Microsoft took what it had already used and just buffed it up, thus I called it an upgrade. The cell is completely new and is not used in any of Sony's old systems and thus I called it new tech.
A 3 core processor running at something like 3 ghz is the same as a buffed up xbox processor?
I could argue that ps3 processor is a new buffed up ps2 processor..

You are just looking at performance evidently. I did not say that the 360 was worse than the PS3. I just said that the 360 utilizes upgraded technology from the Box and the PS3 uses new technology. I'm not arguing which console is better or which one performs better.

[Kuraigu]

PS3, however, utilizes new technology and is totally different from the PS2 in that sense and lives up to the performance of nextgen as well. Its a definition things.
Omg Blu ray discs which they won't put to/good use 111!!1

I wasn't mentioning what type of discs would be used. I'm talking about within the console itself.
Yes and the xbox 360 has nextgen technology in it.
Do you see last generations consoles with 3 processing cores?

That is just an increase in number not new technology.
So please give an example of new technology on ps3?
Omg faster processor, that's just a number.

I wasn't mentioning the speed. The cell technology is new (that is what I meant by core), I think that is what they called it anyways. Microsoft took what it had already used and just buffed it up, thus I called it an upgrade. The cell is completely new and is not used in any of Sony's old systems and thus I called it new tech.
A 3 core processor running at something like 3 ghz is the same as a buffed up xbox processor?
I could argue that ps3 processor is a new buffed up ps2 processor..

You are just looking at performance evidently. I did not say that the 360 was worse than the PS3. I just said that the 360 utilizes upgraded technology from the Box and the PS3 uses new technology. I'm not arguing which console is better or which one performs better.
Give an example of this new technology on ps3 processor then.
Also I'd count having 3 cores on 360 as new technology

[Set]

PS3, however, utilizes new technology and is totally different from the PS2 in that sense and lives up to the performance of nextgen as well. Its a definition things.
Omg Blu ray discs which they won't put to/good use 111!!1

I wasn't mentioning what type of discs would be used. I'm talking about within the console itself.
Yes and the xbox 360 has nextgen technology in it.
Do you see last generations consoles with 3 processing cores?

That is just an increase in number not new technology.
So please give an example of new technology on ps3?
Omg faster processor, that's just a number.

I wasn't mentioning the speed. The cell technology is new (that is what I meant by core), I think that is what they called it anyways. Microsoft took what it had already used and just buffed it up, thus I called it an upgrade. The cell is completely new and is not used in any of Sony's old systems and thus I called it new tech.
A 3 core processor running at something like 3 ghz is the same as a buffed up xbox processor?
I could argue that ps3 processor is a new buffed up ps2 processor..

You are just looking at performance evidently. I did not say that the 360 was worse than the PS3. I just said that the 360 utilizes upgraded technology from the Box and the PS3 uses new technology. I'm not arguing which console is better or which one performs better.
Give an example of this new technology on ps3 processor then.
Also I'd count having 3 cores on 360 as new technology

Increasing the number of prcessors doesn't count. That is like saying two people having the same PC putting a different number of graphics cards in
their own respective PCs makes the technologies different & new when it doesn't. They both use the same graphics cards but just have a different amount resulting in a performance difference. The fact the 360 has 3 processors doesn't make the technology new. The PS3's cell however is new technology. That is the part I'm refering to. I'm saying that the cell is new and different, and in fact, it is. You can run a search on it if you want. "Cell Processor"

[Kuraigu]

[quote:428662f2ac="Set"] PS3, however, utilizes new technology and is totally different from the PS2 in that sense and lives up to the performance of nextgen as well. Its a definition things.
Omg Blu ray discs which they won't put to/good use 111!!1

I wasn't mentioning what type of discs would be used. I'm talking about within the console itself.
Yes and the xbox 360 has nextgen technology in it.
Do you see last generations consoles with 3 processing cores?

That is just an increase in number not new technology.
So please give an example of new technology on ps3?
Omg faster processor, that's just a number.

I wasn't mentioning the speed. The cell technology is new (that is what I meant by core), I think that is what they called it anyways. Microsoft took what it had already used and just buffed it up, thus I called it an upgrade. The cell is completely new and is not used in any of Sony's old systems and thus I called it new tech.
A 3 core processor running at something like 3 ghz is the same as a buffed up xbox processor?
I could argue that ps3 processor is a new buffed up ps2 processor..

You are just looking at performance evidently. I did not say that the 360 was worse than the PS3. I just said that the 360 utilizes upgraded technology from the Box and the PS3 uses new technology. I'm not arguing which console is better or which one performs better.
Give an example of this new technology on ps3 processor then.
Also I'd count having 3 cores on 360 as new technology

Increasing the number of prcessors doesn't count. That is like saying two people having the same PC putting a different number of graphics cards in
their own respective PCs makes the technologies different & new when it doesn't. They both use the same graphics cards but just have a different amount resulting in a performance difference. The fact the 360 has 3 processors doesn't make the technology new. The PS3's cell however is new technology. That is the part I'm refering to. I'm saying that the cell is new and different, and in fact, it is. You can run a search on it if you want. "Cell Processor"[/quote:428662f2ac]
Aside from the fact it's not really a processor built for gaming and it making the ps3 cost about $800 there's very little difference..

[Set]

[quote:89676caabc="Kuraigu"][quote:89676caabc="Set"] PS3, however, utilizes new technology and is totally different from the PS2 in that sense and lives up to the performance of nextgen as well. Its a definition things.
Omg Blu ray discs which they won't put to/good use 111!!1

I wasn't mentioning what type of discs would be used. I'm talking about within the console itself.
Yes and the xbox 360 has nextgen technology in it.
Do you see last generations consoles with 3 processing cores?

That is just an increase in number not new technology.
So please give an example of new technology on ps3?
Omg faster processor, that's just a number.

I wasn't mentioning the speed. The cell technology is new (that is what I meant by core), I think that is what they called it anyways. Microsoft took what it had already used and just buffed it up, thus I called it an upgrade. The cell is completely new and is not used in any of Sony's old systems and thus I called it new tech.
A 3 core processor running at something like 3 ghz is the same as a buffed up xbox processor?
I could argue that ps3 processor is a new buffed up ps2 processor..

You are just looking at performance evidently. I did not say that the 360 was worse than the PS3. I just said that the 360 utilizes upgraded technology from the Box and the PS3 uses new technology. I'm not arguing which console is better or which one performs better.
Give an example of this new technology on ps3 processor then.
Also I'd count having 3 cores on 360 as new technology

Increasing the number of prcessors doesn't count. That is like saying two people having the same PC putting a different number of graphics cards in
their own respective PCs makes the technologies different & new when it doesn't. They both use the same graphics cards but just have a different amount resulting in a performance difference. The fact the 360 has 3 processors doesn't make the technology new. The PS3's cell however is new technology. That is the part I'm refering to. I'm saying that the cell is new and different, and in fact, it is. You can run a search on it if you want. "Cell Processor"[/quote:89676caabc]
Aside from the fact it's not really a processor built for gaming and it making the ps3 cost about $800 there's very little difference..[/quote:89676caabc]

We're about to find out if it is built for gaming very soon as it is in the PS3 and the console is not 800$. It is in the price range of the 360. And saying that it isn't built for gaming is a bad assumption. Wait and find out first. Don't jump to conclusions about it.

[Set]

But now you are not arguing whether it is new or not which was the point of the argument.

[Set]

And saying there is very little difference is subjective. Some people who have taken an extensive look at it would disagree.

Gotta head out.

[Durakken]

PS3 has nothing working on it yet. Every game you've seen demoed is how they say it'll look, not how it will look.

Blue Ray DVDs will cost $10-30 more

6USB ports and 3 internet ports + wireless = too much not needed

ugly controller

expected cost around $900

360's price is more like around $300 not bundled with all the other garbage that they force you to get...

so $300 for a working system or a $900 system not working yet... and PS3 has been in the works longer since they go into development as soon as the previous one has been launched. and PS2 came out earlier.

[Kuraigu]

But now you are not arguing whether it is new or not which was the point of the argument.
You said the 360 processor is a buffed up xbox processor so I'm going to say any new processor is a buffed up processor of the last.
Also you're right the cell processor is in the price range of the 360 :P
Also there's a thing called editing posts..

[Set]

But now you are not arguing whether it is new or not which was the point of the argument.
You said the 360 processor is a buffed up xbox processor so I'm going to say any new processor is a buffed up processor of the last.
Also you're right the cell processor is in the price range of the 360 :P
Also there's a thing called editing posts..

I didn't say the 360 was a buuffed up Box processor (or didn't mean to). I said that the technology was the same which is true.

[Set]

PS3 has nothing working on it yet. Every game you've seen demoed is how they say it'll look, not how it will look.

Blue Ray DVDs will cost $10-30 more

6USB ports and 3 internet ports + wireless = too much not needed

ugly controller

expected cost around $900

360's price is more like around $300 not bundled with all the other garbage that they force you to get...

so $300 for a working system or a $900 system not working yet... and PS3 has been in the works longer since they go into development as soon as the previous one has been launched. and PS2 came out earlier.

The cost of production is estimated by some people to be 900$, not the cost of the console. The cost of the console is estimated to be 400$ (I'm guessing with all the features that you get.). Another estimated cost of production is 454$. Saying the controller is ugly is a subjective statement (its not a fact, some people think its ugly, others think its great, and others think its average). Some folks think its cool and sleek.


6USB ports and 3 internet ports + wireless = too much not needed

I don't know if that is too much. That is another subjective statement (opinion).

Blue Ray DVDs will cost $10-30 more

That is yet to be confirmed. The price for blue ray discs for movies is only 20% more. That means that a 20% increase in price should be expected for games. Based on that figure (games cost 60 dollars on 360, so I'm saying that is the top price of a game), the highest it should be is 10-12$ more. If that is the case, then the PS3 games will probably have to outclass the 360 games if it wants to sell, or people (which are stupid, and most people are) will think that the price increase means the games for that system are better and will probably dish out, I mean they did for the increase in price for the 360 games, so its not a stretch.

[Kuraigu]

Well many sites are saying a :):):):):):):):) for it :O
http://www.xboxtoday.ca/02182006/12/sony_ps3_900

Also making 3 simultaneous cores or whatever these technofied people do is new technology

[Set]

Well many sites are saying a *** for it :O
http://www.xboxtoday.ca/02182006/12/sony_ps3_900

Also making 3 simultaneous cores or whatever these technofied people do is new technology

The way they utilize them is new I think (simultaneously), I'm not sure. But the

Processors: |PS3 Cell Processor| |X360 Custom IBM PowerPC CPU|

PowerPC CPUs aren't new (if they are, they aren't as new as the Cell needless to say).

[Durakken]

v.v don't argue less you know what your talking about... it's one of the first rules of debate.

The cell processer is a bunch of processors that work in conjuction with each other to act like one processor. I forget how they explain it exactly but each processor does a bit of the processing to make it go faster.

it's untested technology...they have no idea how long they'll last or how much strain can be put on it.

It's unworking technology as well as nothing is working on it currently

[Set]

v.v don't argue less you know what your talking about... it's one of the first rules of debate.

The cell processer is a bunch of processors that work in conjuction with each other to act like one processor. I forget how they explain it exactly but each processor does a bit of the processing to make it go faster.

it's untested technology...they have no idea how long they'll last or how much strain can be put on it.

It's unworking technology as well as nothing is working on it currently

The technology hasn't been put to any market use yet. That is true. But there HAVE been tests done on it. I am unsure of the results of those tests however.