BEST CPU POLL

[hawk9290]

Which computer is the best brand.

[Titus22]

Oh God they all suck. Custom built is the way to go.

[NiGHTS Chao]

yup

[hawk9290]

Oh God they all suck. Custom built is the way to go.
I would have listed the customs ( my personal favorite ) but the poll wouldn't allow me to. I prefer Go L as a brand since they are incredibly fast and you can get 92 inch cinematic displays with them, but Customs are by far the best.

[uhhsam]

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[segasoulja]

HAHAHAHAHA COMPAQ!!111
I HATE compaqs/hps... they look ugly, their hardware is weird (linux won't work correctly if you just directly install it, usually), and they come pre-installed with adware and spyware.
No offense to anyone that uses them, I just had some bad experiences.

[Stevo]

I think Toshiba and Dell are probably the best of those choices. I voted for Toshiba. But still, Custom built is the way to go... Oh, and you know what...I think APPLE makes the best computers! haha

[Zero]

Oh God they all suck. Custom built is the way to go.

Yup,

x2. I first thought this was a thread about processors.

ATHLON BABY!

- Zero

[Titus22]

Speaking of Athlons...I paid for an Athlon XP 2000+ and there was an XP 2600+ in the box :twisted:

[hawk9290]

Speaking of Athlons...I paid for an Athlon XP 2000+ and there was an XP 2600+ in the box :twisted:
That's always a nice suprise,
oh and nice quote

[Titus22]

Hehe. I'm assuming you can read binary?

[Blue Shinobi]

Custom homemade.........If ya cant do that (because your too stupid to) get a Dell :!:

[Titus22]

What the :):):):) it blocked out the word @ssuming.

[hawk9290]

What the *** it blocked out the word @ssuming.
yeah, it recognized the word @$$ being in their,
try harassment
embarassment
h@rassment
emb@rassment
they worked, hmmm
herassment
embarassedment
they all worked

[Titus22]

assassinated
@ss@ssinated

assimulated
@ssimulated

[shadowmonkey]

u stink :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

[Titus22]

I know :cry:

i like building my own

[hawk9290]

i like building my own
yeah, it's not too complicated If you know about computers. Although, don't try to refurb an old 95 packard bell with other refurbed parts. It booted for me, loaded windows, and that is about where it met it's limitations

[Freneticburn]

This may sound funny to a lot of people but i'm gonna go for E-machines. I own a T6000 ( it has AMD Athlon 64, 160 GB hard drive, 512 Mb RAM, an ATI Radeon 9600, Windows XP, decent sound card with 6.1, DVD drive, a fast cd burner, an 8-1 media reader that reads all kinds of mem cards for digital cameras and such, 7 USB ports, 1 firewire port and bunch of other crap) I play Neverwintr Nights, UT, Savage, StarCraft, Unreal 2: The Awakening with XMP with all detail and sound on the highest it can go ( except for some shadow stuff on Unreal 2, I never messed with it) and the PC runs smooth as hell with no slowdowns or crashing. I have read otherwise in PC Gamer but I really don't know what they're talking about, they were payed off or something to make the system look bad. Actually I bet they read the brand name and just wrote something. Great gaming PC if you ask me. Ohh yea, I also played the demo for UT 2004 with best settings and it still ran smooth.

[goldenaxe2]

Well if I had to buy pre-built it would be dell so cheap. But I don't so I won't.

[britzman]

Which computer is the best brand.alienware

[vtnwesley]

HAHAHAHAHA COMPAQ!!111
I HATE compaqs/hps... they look ugly, their hardware is weird (linux won't work correctly if you just directly install it, usually), and they come pre-installed with adware and spyware.
No offense to anyone that uses them, I just had some bad experiences.

All of that is true of every retail PC to some degree. Right now HP (the Pavilion line only) is actually pretty good. eMachines have been good for a while now, and Gateways are now being built on eMachines technologies, so both of those are actually pretty good too (I feel so dirty for saying that about Gateway though lol but Gateways are just higher end eMachines now).

Compaq (Persario line) has always been kind of flakey. Really unreliable hardware. Anything with the "Media Center" name on it seems to be a deft as well, which is kind of sad. They are supposed to be premium systems. Historically, Toshiba has been unreliable as well.

[segasoulja]

I've heard a lot of things about the HP Pavillion monitors screwing up a lot, on posts here, even one of my relatives has had problems with his.
You're right about the whole "Media Center" thing. Theres really nothing there that you can't do yourself (and cheaper), its really just a scam to lure ignorant home users.

[vtnwesley]

I've heard a lot of things about the HP Pavillion monitors screwing up a lot, on posts here, even one of my relatives has had problems with his.
You're right about the whole "Media Center" thing. Theres really nothing there that you can't do yourself (and cheaper), its really just a scam to lure ignorant home users.

Well, monitors are a whole other story lol. The peripherals of all of these companies kind of suck. The keyboards (and some mice) have started recently being made good, but why do all the printers/monitors suck?

I find it ironic that Gateways "highend systems" (as eMachine is their "low end" bracket) usually come with non-optical mice... pfft!

I'd say for monitors go with higher end Samsung, Viewsonic, or Apple displays. On the cheaper end, KDS makes decent CRTs (some of the LAST decent ones left, Envision and other cheap CRTs are extremely grainy).

HP is (was?) famous for their imaging products (printers, scanners, cameras, etc). These days they are on the low-to-middle end of things. Epson seems to be doing REALLY well in the printer/scanner market right now. I'm VERY impressed with the Epson products.

[Freneticburn]

HPs REALLY suck, I have had a terrible experience with them. Our old PC is a HP Pavilion with a 600Mhz Celeron. The first weekend we had it we had problems with it, quite honestly I think it was a scam to get us to register because when they told me what to do over the phone it was just too easy (I can't remember what since it was like 5 years ago). We had MANY problems with it over the years until finally I was like, this thing has too much spyware and adware and viruses on it that we should just wipe it clean and use teh Recovery Disks that it came with. So I reformat it and such, I did it right as I have done it on other machines, and for some odd messed up reason when I tried to use the recovery disks I get a warning saying that these disks will only work on a Pavilion and this is not one of them. Now the machine was surely an HP Pavilion, so I called customer service to get some answers. First lady I get after an hour of waiting on hold (not even kidding, I clocked it at about 50 minutes) could not even speak proper English, she sounded of Arabic heritage. So after TRYING so hard to understand her I decided to give up and call another day. The next day I call again, this time it was a 20 minute wait, and I get a dude this time. BUT of course he also speaks with a HEAVY Arabic accent and I really can't understand it through the phone and he couldnt understand me very well either since I had to repeat EVERYTHING to him. Anyway they tell me they can do nothing for me because my warranty is up on the PC and it would cost me $40 to renew it so they can help me.

Now it just may be just me but that is complete and utter :):):):):):):):). I use THEIR recovery disks on THEIR PC and it won't work, I call them for an explaination, they ask me for $40. Anyway :):):):) them, I can just go out and buy the same damn OS for $40 I'm sure WITHOUT all the memory stealing :):):):) that they put on it.

[Freneticburn]

Also its been almost a year since I have had this emachines and it has been turned on damn near every day and I have yet to have any problems with it. Never had no overheating problem that that one magazine said it had, Ive never had a game crash (well Lineage 2 did once, but that game is so damn buggy and the error had something to do with my video card. So I imagine it was the :):):):):):) programming done in the game). So if anything I'm sure emachines is more higher end than Gateway. I've also been using a 17" flat LCD monitor from emachines and its still as bright and sharp as it was the first day I got it. And people I know all said it would go to :):):):) in a year like all the LCDs that they had of different, more 'quality' make. And my sister have even made a habit of walking up to it and pressing on the screen because it looks 'cool', of course I always yell at them for it they sitll have done it many times.

[vtnwesley]

HPs REALLY suck, I have had a terrible experience with them. Our old PC is a HP Pavilion with a 600Mhz Celeron. The first weekend we had it we had problems with it, quite honestly I think it was a scam to get us to register because when they told me what to do over the phone it was just too easy (I can't remember what since it was like 5 years ago). We had MANY problems with it over the years until finally I was like, this thing has too much spyware and adware and viruses on it that we should just wipe it clean and use teh Recovery Disks that it came with. So I reformat it and such, I did it right as I have done it on other machines, and for some odd messed up reason when I tried to use the recovery disks I get a warning saying that these disks will only work on a Pavilion and this is not one of them. Now the machine was surely an HP Pavilion, so I called customer service to get some answers. First lady I get after an hour of waiting on hold (not even kidding, I clocked it at about 50 minutes) could not even speak proper English, she sounded of Arabic heritage. So after TRYING so hard to understand her I decided to give up and call another day. The next day I call again, this time it was a 20 minute wait, and I get a dude this time. BUT of course he also speaks with a HEAVY Arabic accent and I really can't understand it through the phone and he couldnt understand me very well either since I had to repeat EVERYTHING to him. Anyway they tell me they can do nothing for me because my warranty is up on the PC and it would cost me $40 to renew it so they can help me.

Now it just may be just me but that is complete and utter ***. I use THEIR recovery disks on THEIR PC and it won't work, I call them for an explaination, they ask me for $40. Anyway *** them, I can just go out and buy the same damn OS for $40 I'm sure WITHOUT all the memory stealing *** that they put on it.

The problem is all systems between 1996 and 1999 had those kinds of problems. All companies had a lot of intentionally defective models, and were more concerned with their MSN 3 Year sign-ups, because those were worth more than the computer.

The arabic tech support is ALL companies. It's called "out sourcing". they all fired their equally stupid/incompetent American support, so they could pay foreigners disgustingly small ammounts of money. Right now almost ALL major companies of computer and computer related hardware and software outsource via a company called Nutech if I am not mistaken. These people know nothing of computers and likely have never even SEEN a computer in their lifetime. Outsourcing usually involves India, a few Asian countries, and right now some companies are scouting areas of Africa to train people there so they can pay even less. In addition to causing extremely poor tech support, it's causing an unbalance market in both America and India/other countries. Here, Americans are losing jobs (which in all honesty is half our fault, most americans in tech jobs have no idea what they are doing and do a worse job than the indians, etc). The other half of the issue is in these other countries, where money is hard to come by, we are basically using them, under paying by our standards, over paying by their standards, and dumping them as they become an issue. You can't have a "pump and dump" economy for an entire country. Once Americans start taking advantage of Africa, they will dump all of the Asian and Indian outsourcing. When that happens, their economies will fall into chaos...

There are some rules to working with foreigners on the phone. Stay calm, and patiant. You will always be on the phone for at least 1 hour, no matter what. You will have to speak slowly, and when they get things wrong, correct them politely. Never use the word "okay?" when responcing to something that doesnt make sense. Like American tech support calls, they record them all, but instead of using them for quality assurence, they use them against their callers. If you can't understand something, tell them that. Don't mutter an acknowledgement. They also seem to get rated when they ask formally at the end of a call if you found it useful/helpful. Be honest.

If they keep trying to charge make sure you are under warrenty first, and keep good paper work. If they complain, keep explaining. My friend was yelled at for 15 minutes (screaming in Chinese lol) because they thought his Palm PDA was a refurb due to price. They didnt seem to know what "discount" ment. After trying to explain for an hour or so they finally re-enstated his full year warrenty on his brand new PDA he needed service on.

As for Gateway and eMachine. Gateway recent bought eMachines, because Gateway has been unprofittable for a long time. They have removed some of eMachines higher end models, and now all Gateways are the "highend" of the Gateway/eMachine franken-company. eMachines is intentionally lower end, but they are still quite good/reliable.

[Dick]

i like building my own

me to

[RobTheGreat]

I am in the process of a custom. I order the case and motherboard this weekend. :D But I dont have enough for the CPU and OS at the moment, so they have to wait. :cry:

[RobTheGreat]

I am in the process of a custom. I order the case and motherboard this weekend. :D But I dont have enough for the CPU and OS at the moment, so they have to wait. :cry:

[Licentia]

Best CPU? Best CPU is between AMD or Intel. They are the ones that manufacture CPUs.

[Licentia]

Speaking of Athlons...I paid for an Athlon XP 2000+ and there was an XP 2600+ in the box :twisted:

Nice, if your Motherboard will take it. Otherwise sell it.