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Camron Kosciozko
02-26-2004, 06:59 PM
Rumor thread guys, so dont swear to any of it.

If u wanna check the link, go here http://www.xboxaddict.com/news/view.php?News_ID=4335


Posted by: Cory on Wednesday, January 28th, 2004
Type: News
Source: http://money.cnn.com

Microsoft’s Xbox may be on the verge of a substantial price cut, falling from $179 to $99 by Labor Day, according to P.J. McNealy, an analyst with American Technology Research.

"It is our belief that the price on the consoles in North America could see a stepped drop this year, with both the PS2 and Xbox being cut to $129 between now and the May E3 trade show, with [Microsoft] then cutting the Xbox further to $99 in the late summer," he wrote in a research note released Wednesday.

McNealy also believes Microsoft will launch its next generation console in late 2005 – a year earlier than has been previously rumored. That would put the Xbox 2 on store shelves up to a full year before Sony’s PlayStation 3.

Microsoft, when asked about the report, said it does not comment on rumors and speculation.

The predictions are pretty bold – but not without merit. It’s no mystery that the price of home video game machines will be coming down this year. After 2003’s lackluster $20 cuts, Microsoft and Sony both saw console sales falter. Xbox hardware sales fell 18 percent in North America between 2002 and 2003. PlayStation 2 sales were off 49 percent in Holiday 2003. (Only Nintendo, which dropped GameCube prices to $99, saw sales increase.)

The price cut would result in a flood of red ink, though. When Microsoft launched the Xbox in 2001 for $299, it reportedly lost $100 for every unit it sold. Component prices have certainly gone down since then, but the console has never reached the break-even point.

But at this stage of the game (so to speak), Microsoft doesn’t seem to care much about that. Deep price cuts – especially if they go unmatched by Sony – would drive up the number of people who own and begin growing accustomed to the Xbox. And having that deep installed customer base is the key to driving sales of a next generation machine.

So $99 would certainly build brand awareness as Microsoft prepares for the launch of its next machine. But I’m not sure a 2005 launch is necessarily a good move.

Yes, being the first to market would let Microsoft do away with that reputation it has as a follower. It might also force Sony to either step up production of the PS3 or increase the technical specs.

But showing your hand a year before the industry’s 500 lb. gorilla does carries a significant amount of risk. Just ask Sega, which tried doing that with the Dreamcast – and got booted from the hardware business as a result. Gamers looked at what the Dreamcast could do and were generally impressed – but decided to save their dollars for the PS2, since they considered it a sure bet.

Microsoft, certainly, is in a much stronger position than Sega. The Xbox’s buzz factor is on the rise – and will soar higher if the company opts for a $99 price tag. But it hasn’t yet established a reputation that’s strong enough for it to sway Sony loyalists. (Not to mention there’s a fringe faction that refuses to buy the machine simply because it’s made by Microsoft.)

Certainly, it could hurt Sony during the crucial holiday sales period – both 2004 (with Microsoft offering a lower price point) and 2005 (with Microsoft offering a state-of-the-art product). But a rush to market could give Sony time to wind up for a devastating punch.

Look at the software situation. "Halo 2" – the second installment of the most popular Xbox game (by far) – is due later this year. Exactly when is a mystery – Microsoft will only offer "it will be ready when it’s ready". It’s possible we won’t see the game until this holiday season. That would leave an insufficient amount of time to prepare another installment to launch in conjunction with Xbox 2.

Obviously, it’s not essential that the system launch with its best game. And an argument could be made that holding "Halo 3" to meet the PS3 launch head on might be wise. But the Xbox has so far been unable to deliver another game line that is anywhere near as effective at moving hardware.

All Sony (SNE: Research, Estimates) needs to do is announce that a new "Grand Theft Auto" title – and perhaps a new "Jak" or "Ratchet and Clank" game – will launch simultaneously with the PS3 and it could suck the wind out of Microsoft’s (MSFT: Research, Estimates) sails.

And the nightmare scenario in Redmond has to be releasing the Xbox 2 a year early – only to have it move off shelves at a lackluster pace.

KingJ2002
02-26-2004, 08:56 PM
"All Sony (SNE: Research, Estimates) needs to do is announce that a new "Grand Theft Auto" title – and perhaps a new "Jak" or "Ratchet and Clank" game – will launch simultaneously with the PS3 and it could suck the wind out of Microsoft’s (MSFT: Research, Estimates) sails."

sad but true... and it's a garunteed bet that tekken 5 & ridge racer 6 will launch with the system.

if MS launch early... not only will they lose current customers they will throw away the race.

Halemar
02-27-2004, 12:11 PM
GTA sin city is GTA 5's real name.

Camron Kosciozko
02-27-2004, 03:07 PM
With halo 2 comming out end of 2004, Ms wouldnt be dumb enough to let halo build up sales for less than a year. Hell, they just lowered the original halo price at the 2 year anniversary. With rumors saying it wont be backwards compatible (xbox next), they are going to milk it.

As far as price cuts is concerned, thats obvious. Labor day i guess is good because its starting the fall and thas usually when the big titles start arriving. Look at what happened when Gc cut price a few weeks after labor day. Imagine that, with a halo 2 release and the sales could very well set xbox comfortably in 2nd place.

Nuckles87
02-27-2004, 03:36 PM
Eh, it couldn't be coming in 2005....

It's not backwards compatible? Thats stupid.

goldenaxe2
02-27-2004, 03:47 PM
If its a rumor don't try to get peoples hopes up

DarkLink
02-28-2004, 07:04 PM
I would buy an xbox just for Ninja Gaiden and the Dead or Alive games. Microsoft denied all these rumors.

nintendo642001
02-29-2004, 10:17 AM
xbox late 2006
n5 2007
ps3 delayed 2007
ds late 2004
psp 2005
theres all the release dates for all consoles and i like the n5 release better since who wants a console to early they all should release the same day aso itll be a fair race and i liked when snes had a long life and nes but why so short these days

xdscast
03-02-2004, 07:20 PM
I totally agree w/ you J. Its throwing it all away. It would be great if everything was released in 2006-7, too bad taht wont happen. No back compatability for MS is going to :):):)k them over. There is about a dozen ways this stuff can play out and 4 are highly likely. BTW w/ Jak III due this fall the series will be niche, what happend to sonic? yea I thought so, OH and what about the almighty Mario? niche. I see Sony running out of traction in the next 2 years.

Thegaminggamer
03-02-2004, 08:04 PM
What everyone is forgetting about is that Microsoft still has some heavy artillery to unleash. It cost them 375 million dollars and they have yet to see their true potential. Yep, I'm talking about Rareware. Ok so Rareware hasn't proved everyone that they are still good at what they do, however Rareware still has their secret weapon. Perfect Dark. Perfect Dark is in the works right now as we speak, and what everyone forgets is that PDZ is slated for a Xbox 2 launch title. PDZ is Microsoft's killer must have game besides Halo 2. Also Ninja Gaiden was just released, that gives Tecmo more than enough time to cook up Ninja Gaiden 2 for a xbox 2 launch title. Let's remember that Microsoft and Tecmo have had a love affair ever since the Xbox was released. All of Tecmo's killer games have all been Xbox exclusives and you can bet that this is going to continue towards Xbox 2. Last of all, Bioware will release Jade Empire and StarWars KOTOR 2 soon, this gives Bioware more than enough time to fabricate sequels for any of those games in time for a Xbox 2 launch title. Microsoft has dedicated Xbox's lifespan to establish franchises for themselves. Next time around Xbox 2 will already have established franchises from the beginning. Xbox gamers can be sure that Xbox 2 will come around with a kick @ss :):):):)nal of goodies, from raw hardware power to the game content to use it.

Camron Kosciozko
03-02-2004, 08:59 PM
Pretty much. Xbox has an established fanbase now, wit exclusive franchises that are selling. Next Gen its going to come out the gates selling, instead of startin slow and pickin up speed several months later.

nickj123
03-03-2004, 04:13 PM
xbox late 2006
n5 2007
ps3 delayed 2007
ds late 2004
psp 2005
theres all the release dates for all consoles and i like the n5 release better since who wants a console to early they all should release the same day aso itll be a fair race and i liked when snes had a long life and nes but why so short these days

Sounds great even though Nintendo has promised a late 2005 early 2006 launch for N5. And one thing Nintendo isn't terrible at is deadlines.