How Many people hate Ethan Waber?

[sakurajello]

To be honest I didn't think he would be that bad a character at first...

then he opened his mouth.

I now hate everything about Ethan, his voice, his clothes, his personality, EVERYTHING.

He reminds me of Tidus from FFX whom is the king of all :):):):)ers, except he can't out-:):):):) Tidus. Just wondering how many others hate the guy.

:D

[shadywolf]

That was the whole point of him being made, Japan loves people like him as main characters in RPG's rightnow. :lol:

[Rogash]

To be honest I didn't think he would be that bad a character at first...

then he opened his mouth.

I now hate everything about Ethan, his voice, his clothes, his personality, EVERYTHING.

He reminds me of Tidus from FFX whom is the king of all :):):):)ers, except he can't out- Tidus. Just wondering how many others hate the guy.

:D

At least you can change his clothes, then you have 1 less concern ;)

[Lilin]

if the clothes you could change him into didn't look equally as ***....

[Saizomaru]

Ethan is bad but hey...there have been worse main chars in the history of gaming....look at Dante from Devil may cry 3!

At least Ethan has never posed and said "This party's gettin crazy!!" :shock:

[oz78]

I thought he's marginally acceptable as a main guy, but I thought he was mostly acting like a retard and voted out. Funny why there's more votes for him then against. For you guys that thought he's ok, why did you think so? I thought Huga was quite a jerk but at least he knew what's going on half of the time.

[Xankarth Wind]

In my opinion, the voice acting isn't as bad as most make it out to be. I'd say it's on par with FF 10. :P

I get the feeling I'm alone when I say I like Hyuga's accent. o.O;

[Prons]

Dude, Ethan Waber is so awesome in a cutscene he got hit in the back with a De Ragan fireball, and just shrugged it off!

[Sever]

The voice acting is fine, I love the clothes and hairstyle, naw I dont hate Ethan, I hate Otaku's or anime/manga and revolve their lives around japan kinda people who whine about US voices compared to JP voices. Shoot, I'd bet theyd whine and say the japanese can do better voices for our Disney characters. :shock:

[sakurajello]

wow, so many people like him.

and no, its not that I hate English voices its just I feel that most of the time they are really rushed or just plain old bad choice of a person to voice them!

English voice acting can be good and Japanese can be bad it all depends.

I thought the voices in this game are speaking too quickly because they are probably trying to match the mouth's moving (the speed of Japanese words compared to english)

As for Disney characters, I prefer the English voices :D

[Lachesis]

At least Ethan doesn't look like a girl. Too many pretty boys in RPGS nowadays.

[Sever]

At least Ethan doesn't look like a girl. Too many pretty boys in RPGS nowadays.

I agree with ya!

[Babaganoush]

Ore wa Ethan Waber! :whee:

[Dj Excalibur]

He reminds me of Tidus from FFX whom is the king of all :):):):)ers, except he can't out- Tidus. Just wondering how many others hate the guy.

:D

That's exactly who I thought of when I first played as him. :shock:

[Starslicer]

To be honest I didn't think he would be that bad a character at first...

then he opened his mouth.

I now hate everything about Ethan, his voice, his clothes, his personality, EVERYTHING.

He reminds me of Tidus from FFX whom is the king of all :):):):)ers, except he can't out- Tidus. Just wondering how many others hate the guy.

:D

First and formost, Tidus was emo and he hated his father. (He also kept his feelings secret half the time.)

Ethan hated the people that worked ALONG with his father because it was dangerous work and that line of work took his father away, which is alot more understandable.

In the end, he came to terms with that and he's also a pretty good funny and sarcastic character. And I cannot STRESS enough how I like the fact that ETHAN talks about when stuff bothers him and he doesn't keep it in.

That alone makes me think Ethan is a darn good character.

And to be quite honest, I had nothing against Ethan's voice at all. It didn't make me shudder or anything. In fact, Ethan's voice actually fitted him and how he looked.

(Infact, I didn't have any objections with any of the voices except the Vol brothers and that little girl beast whos name I can't remember.)

[oscarpappa]

Of cos EW is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, I read comments about the voice acting and was expecting it to be bad (bad like Tidus-bad), but was pleasantly surprised actually.

I think the character design of EW is a little generic, but somehow I like it.

Not one to stand out from the crowd, but he grows on you (or me)...

[UltimaDude]

Japanese Ethan is good,
American Ethan is gay.
Pretty much true.

[Apiron]

Of cos EW is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously, I read comments about the voice acting and was expecting it to be bad (bad like Tidus-bad), but was pleasantly surprised actually.

I think the character design of EW is a little generic, but somehow I like it.

Not one to stand out from the crowd, but he grows on you (or me)...

I agree, the first few chapters I wasn't a fan. As the game progressed and he grew as a character, I began to really like Ethan, he is pretty cool.

[Setsunayaki]

I like ethan...

You see...I get upset that games like Final Fantasy and Elder Scrolls 4 have characters that are overly dramatic and unrealistic to the point everytime you see a scene, it feels like a theatrical release or someone watching a play...

In comes Phantasy Star Universe where people simply say things and even when they are emotional...they make sense and prefer to be more realistic about emotions, rather than being so superficial and artificial like most of the games I've played in the last 4 years...

How many people played Elder Scrolls 4 and felt like the voice acting to the game and text was a little too polite, like the kind of text someone just learning english will write or speak? What about Xenosaga character.....every scene out there, had theatrical/playwright emotion there, that I felt I was watching a daytime drama than actually playing a game. Hell...Guild wars the lips didnt even move and all the Scenes looked like some low budget hack attempt at acting was cast for that game.

I like how even in Phantasy Star Online....Characters like Episode II's Elly appeared like a girl you would meet on the street. Same for PSU...The personalities look realistic to the point you can compare them to more people in our world who are just average people...than people in games like Final Fantasy....specially part 9 where you have a 6 year old casting spells and trying to getting an intimate crush on the main character....what the hell was that!?

See I prefer realistic characters...not characters with voice actors and text dialogue who say "IM AN ACTOR, who is trying to play the part" but rather characters who have voice actors and text that say "Im just a normal character who lives in this world on a day to day basis...Im not trying to be a hero and just get through the day"

that is how PSU is like and its refreshing to see a character like Ethan call people he doesnt like an :):):)....as its something we can all relate to.

[ClearviewPro]

Ethan's voice actor is pathetic. He had like no emotion in his voice.

[bobviolence]

I was cool with Ethan. He was down to earth, stood up for what he believed in, and sounded like the english actor for Kintaro Oe. A few of his lines sounded forced, but how many of you out there have combated an interstellar species that consumes A-photon energy?
As for the JP vs NA voice acting, it's generally whichever the person hears first (Cowboy Bebop - NA. Azumanga Daioh - JP), Duo Maxwell of Gundam Wing sounds like a gopher in Japanese...) Also, a society's idiosyncrasies come into play with voice actors. Some things just don't translate that well, like an english teacher using terrible english, while that in and of itself is amusing, the joke changes when the actress has been speaking the language (in theory) her entire life.
I really can't think of a character I disliked in Story mode, at last chapter, going to finish after work.

[Starslicer]

Ethan's voice actor is pathetic. He had like no emotion in his voice.

You honestly have no taste in voice acting whatsoever.

That voice actor didn't have a monotone voice at all and it didn't sound like a voice you wouldn't expect from the character at all.

Do you even have a justifiable reason why you think this?

[Shiro Mumei Tou]

I got tired of reading all of the posts, they all say the same things over and over again.

I don't think he's a bad character, I just think he's a bit on the rere side. You ever listen to what he says? He's kind of... well, the easiest way to explain would be to say he talks like a soccer mom and a lawyer combined, but then there's no real discernable difference between the two.

His English voice sounds better than the Japanese one, he sounds more his age and less excited.

[sham_lix]

appearance ok. voice okay

i just hate his attitude. hot headed jerk.

[Arke]

Ethan Waber started out a close-minded idiot. At first, his voice was a little bit strange. I'm not sure exactly what I was expecting, but his voice was definitely not what I expected. As I've gone through various chapters, his character has developed really well, and I enjoy his voice acting. His voice actor does a good job at inserting humor with inflections into his lines, and I think ultimately he was meant to be a comical character who can be serious when it's demanded of him (storyline purposes).

[lordofduct]

I just can't vote. There is no in between. His voice acting bites... but hey in all he's pretty cool... don't mind him much. I've seen much worse in console RPGs (thinks back to Evolution 1 and 2 on the Sega DC!)

[Bato-Kage]

I thought Ethan looked like a decent main character, but then he opened his mouth... MY GOD his english voiceover is horrible. Everytime he talks it sounds like he's about to choke or something to that effect.

It also doesn't help his image with the MANY times you have to watch him walk around without his normal clothes on (well, in my opinion at least).

At least the outfit is cool (well, if he had the jacket zipped all the way, or wore a shirt underneath).

BTW,

there have been worse main chars in the history of gaming....look at Dante from Devil may cry 3!

At least Ethan has never posed and said "This party's gettin crazy!!"

What's so bad about Dante? I'd rather play as a white haired guy who can make jokes after getting shot in the head than a spikey redhead who nearly breaks out in tears every other chapter. :lol:

[sakurajello]

Bato-Kage said:

Quote:
there have been worse main chars in the history of gaming....look at Dante from Devil may cry 3!

At least Ethan has never posed and said "This party's gettin crazy!!"


What's so bad about Dante? I'd rather play as a white haired guy who can make jokes after getting shot in the head than a spikey redhead who nearly breaks out in tears every other chapter.

-End Quote-

YES!!!! BEST.THING.EVUR!! lol

[Starslicer]

I thought Ethan looked like a decent main character, but then he opened his mouth... MY GOD his english voiceover is horrible. Everytime he talks it sounds like he's about to choke or something to that effect.

It also doesn't help his image with the MANY times you have to watch him walk around without his normal clothes on (well, in my opinion at least).

At least the outfit is cool (well, if he had the jacket zipped all the way, or wore a shirt underneath).

BTW,

there have been worse main chars in the history of gaming....look at Dante from Devil may cry 3!

At least Ethan has never posed and said "This party's gettin crazy!!"

What's so bad about Dante? I'd rather play as a white haired guy who can make jokes after getting shot in the head than a spikey redhead who nearly breaks out in tears every other chapter. :lol:

And beside the doctor dying and almost thinking Karen died, when else did Ethan cry?

I thought so.

[S w i f t]

to thiose that hate ethan would wish they let that robot shoot mirei :lol:

spoilers btw

[Bato-Kage]

all right, all right, starslicer, you made me think. Maybe Ethan only cried three or four times in the game (when the doctor died, when he heard Karen was in trouble, when he thought Karen died, and when he couldn't figure out a plan in the last chapter), but he also got all whiny everytime his sister even set foot in Guardians HQ, until the FINAL Chapter and had a moment similar to PMSing right after he became a full fledged guardian (you know, when Tonnio and Leo wanted to celebrate).

I'll admit, Ethan does develop very well as a character, but because of his partial comic relief trait, it's easy to make fun of him (when put against Dante at least, who is also quite the funny guy :roll: ).

So I'm saying that I can and will make fun of him, but in a way, I don't think anyone else would be a more fitting protagonist for this story.
8)

[Starslicer]

all right, all right, starslicer, you made me think. Maybe Ethan only cried three or four times in the game (when the doctor died, when he heard Karen was in trouble, when he thought Karen died, and when he couldn't figure out a plan in the last chapter), but he also got all whiny everytime his sister even set foot in Guardians HQ, until the FINAL Chapter and had a moment similar to PMSing right after he became a full fledged guardian (you know, when Tonnio and Leo wanted to celebrate).

I'll admit, Ethan does develop very well as a character, but because of his partial comic relief trait, it's easy to make fun of him (when put against Dante at least, who is also quite the funny guy :roll: ).

So I'm saying that I can and will make fun of him, but in a way, I don't think anyone else would be a more fitting protagonist for this story.
8)

He cried when he thought Karen was in trouble?

I thought he was more ready to rush for aid and such.

And as for the whole sister thing, what would you think if you saw your sister walking in with your GUARDIAN partner? (Which made him look like a pedo.) Then she's always yelling at him up until she finally tells him she wants to be a Guardian and he's like, "NO, YOU'RE TOO YOUNG AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE MY LITTLE SISTER IN HARMS WAY!" I mean, would you tell your little 13 year old sister to join an organization that fights off a race that even kills the grown men in that organization? No.

And when Tonnio and Leo wanted to celebrate, he heard the girl he liked was missing. You'd suddenly want to celebrate when you felt bad? Besides, Karen was none of their business so he left them out of it.

The thing is, Ethan gets sad for BETTER reasons than someone would from a game like final fantasy.

And the fact that he's sarcastic makes him a cool guy too. And yeah, ofcourse he won't be the same when you put him up to Dante, 'cause jesus that's Dante.

All i'm saying is that when Ethan got sad, he had a reason to be sad. Others on other RPGs have crappy reasons like "Ohhh, i'm scared hold me." for the generic love plot or "ARGH, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHO I AM, I HAET DIS!" and cry or the generic Tidus, "I hate my father because he disappeared and now that I know why, I STILL hate him." reason.

Ethan gets sad when someone dies right infront of him or he thinks they're going to die and he can't do anything about it.

That's as realistic as it gets. Ethan is really does have good characteristics.

[Fig28]

Ugh, I hate him. He is so naive, and the concept of subtlety is lost on him. I also, personally, find his voice annoying - but that doesn't make the acting bad. It's not the acting or the look that I hate - it's the very essence of Waber. He is, truly, a moron.

That being said, I know he's made that way so he has room to grow. But I think it's a bit extreme.

[Arcs]

Ethan represented what the game wanted as a hero in the long run... Hes just like any other kid, no real special traits spare his dads fame. But he hones his skills and becomes the best guardian he could. Thats what this game was supposed to be about, its a mmo... a bunch of not special schmos like us get to make a hero in our image and grow him/her into the best guardian he/she can be. Ethan was just a practice mold for what the story is all about, that anyone can be a hero here.

As for personality, i know im not alone when i say i love chars for their awsomeness just like everyone else. But what defines a char is their flaws, Ethan had just enough flaws to be human while not having enough to be "special". He expresses himself, hes not mysterious, and he can do a reverse summersault from a hanging posistion with the utmost ease. So im cool with Ethan, if you guys want better chars start makin some and ill meet you online :o

[Bato-Kage]

okay starslicer, I'm going to end this argument because I agree with you. I'm not mocking you or anything, because I understand what you're saying. Ethan is a decent person. Maybe I'm just comparing him to the way I'd react, I dunno. I really can't say I wouldn't burst out into tears when a random scientist is murdered right in front of me.

I'm just being stupid and speculating on the little things Ethan does. I wouldn't change them, but I would still make fun of them. If I just got in a bad mood from hearing bad news about my "would-be-girlfriend", of course I wouldn't want to celebrate, but I wouldn't slam the door in my friends' faces either. He didn't have to grace them with an explanation, but he also coulda, you know, not brushed 'em off like that.

and about the sister thing. Ethan wouldn't even hear her out everytime he saw her in GUARDIAN HQ. She just yelled at him because he got her frustrated no? So in a way they were both being had headed in those scenes. Sibling Rivalry if you will (no wait...I mean about the argueing).

I still think he's a great character, but I still think he's a retard. The best kind of main character in my opinion.

[~kairi~]

He's not so bad, but why does everything hate Tidus....I never understood that.

I loved Tidus. >_>

[Shiro Mumei Tou]

Okay, to help explain why so many characters suck, I'll use this simple phrase.

"Light travels faster than sound. That's why people appear bright before you hear them speak."

[S w i f t]

WAIT A MINATE

ethen didnt cry when the dr died and when karen fainted

well not on the jp version anyway he just shouted their name to try and wake them up? :lol:

[Starslicer]

okay starslicer, I'm going to end this argument because I agree with you. I'm not mocking you or anything, because I understand what you're saying. Ethan is a decent person. Maybe I'm just comparing him to the way I'd react, I dunno. I really can't say I wouldn't burst out into tears when a random scientist is murdered right in front of me.

I'm just being stupid and speculating on the little things Ethan does. I wouldn't change them, but I would still make fun of them. If I just got in a bad mood from hearing bad news about my "would-be-girlfriend", of course I wouldn't want to celebrate, but I wouldn't slam the door in my friends' faces either. He didn't have to grace them with an explanation, but he also coulda, you know, not brushed 'em off like that.

and about the sister thing. Ethan wouldn't even hear her out everytime he saw her in GUARDIAN HQ. She just yelled at him because he got her frustrated no? So in a way they were both being had headed in those scenes. Sibling Rivalry if you will (no wait...I mean about the argueing).

I still think he's a great character, but I still think he's a retard. The best kind of main character in my opinion.

He didn't exactly blow them off, he said he didn't feel too good at the moment and that he was sorry, then closed the door. As a matter o' fact, when he saw them again, he apologized for the whole thing. (Another thing RPGs do is tend to ignore little things like this and keep it going without paying attention to something that might be considered small in the past part of the game.)

I can agree with that, but at first it looked at Hyuuga and her were on a date, simple thing to get mad at. Then, she said she wanted to join the Guardians and in the state of a war, NO. I might be able to put my life on the line, but I wouldn't want someone i'm fighting for to die too or else that'll make me wonder what in the world i'm fighting for if she gets killed in the line of duty.

Sure, I think we all believe Ethan is a pretty rash character and we've seen a couple of times where he wouldn't understand something as clear as day, but the guy still knows when to listen and to not to just out and ignore orders. And from the beginning of the game, we all knew how bad he was at trying to ignore orders.

[Kirios]

Split down the middle.

[DarkTorrent]

Ok, I had absolutely no problem with Ethan's character except for the fact that his voice overs we're terribly off in some areas compared to the characters mouth movements. That doesnt go for just Ethan though, there's alot of that within the game.

Otherwise, Ethan's character was great and well planned for the story.. he got angry and upset for all the right reasons a normal person would. And his one-liners and joke conversations between Hyuga and Leo were good too. He's not the greatest character in the world, but at least he's well put together for this type of game.

[BRGoDLiKe]

I don´t hate Ethan. He isn´t the best char around, but it´s not frustating like the main characters from FF series in PS2.

I think he is cool, nothing more.

ps: my first post here \o///

[b0ltsi]

Dude, Ethan Waber is so awesome in a cutscene he got hit in the back with a De Ragan fireball, and just shrugged it off!
I know! that was amazing!

[Kaiservadin]

The poll should be set up like this.

1:) I am glad to see ethan get hit by a car. ( Hate vote )
2:) Whos ethan ? , OHHHHH that loser.
3:) He needs to be shot dead.
4:) Hes ok < ( My vote )
5:) He Rules
6:) I want to dress up like him he ROCKS !


just having two options is not really what everyone thinks.

just thought i point it out.

[CuteUnit]

Ethan is bad but hey...there have been worse main chars in the history of gaming....look at Dante from Devil may cry 3!

At least Ethan has never posed and said "This party's gettin crazy!!" :shock:

You only wish you were as cosmically awesome as Dante.


Ethan Waber is one of the standard seven manga archetypes. In this case, EW is just a Johnny Iconic.

I don't like Hyuga, personally. Mostly because he wants to shag a 13 yearold.

[Sever]

Again, his voice is fine, you cant just blatently say Japanese Ethan good, American Ethan bad... they are both saying the same thing and have the same personality. :P

Who ever doesnt like his voice... wow you really dont have taste, and have some generalized hatred to all american voice overs becasue this one is pretty freakin good compared to some, have you ever played King of Fighters Maximum Impart or KOF 2006? When I hear the American voices here compared to those im pretty blown away.

[paledragon]

I enjoyed him so I gotta say I don't hate him. He's not my favorite character but he's kinda cool.

[DarkMessiahX]

Of course his voice is kind of monotone, but in my opinion that totally fits his character. I mean, he's just a guy, I'm sure he wishes he could just hang out and do all the normal things people his age are supposed to do, but nooo he has to save the galaxy from SEEDs an sht. So when he's all "........let's go." or "....yesir..." then I can totally understand. It's the 'whatever' attitude that he has to have. I think his hot-headedness was a bit overplayed. But his clothes are cool. So he gets my thumbs up.

I personally like Hyuga better. No I really hate him I just admire the fact that he's trying to hook up with that like 13 yr old girl. XD YEAH YOU GO MAN!!! LMAO

[oz78]

The poll should be set up like this.

1:) I am glad to see ethan get hit by a car. ( Hate vote )
2:) Whos ethan ? , OHHHHH that loser.
3:) He needs to be shot dead.
4:) Hes ok < ( My vote )
5:) He Rules
6:) I want to dress up like him he ROCKS !


just having two options is not really what everyone thinks.

just thought i point it out.

I think I may vote in his favour a little more in such a vote setup.otherwise with the original vote setup for this thread, I'll still vote that he's a retard because he acted like one mostly.

[First Noah]

The problem is, Ethan isn't heroic, he's a punk. He keeps wiping his nose like a crack addict too.

As far as voice acting topic thats been brought up- American anime voice actors suffer from a lack of understanding of anime and its roots in general. This leads to games like Ryu Ga Gotoku a.k.a Yakuza state side (because we as Americans can only relate to base stereotypes of other cultures) having stereotypical mafia voices for Tokyo gangsters spiced up with a liberal amount of dirty language to make it "authentic".

One word... Clueless

[GUTZ]

Ethans secretly in love with Hyuga :wink:

[sakurajello]

I don't know if i can edit the thread to make more poll options...sorry ^.^;


by the way, KOF characters that have english voices are voiced by japanese people. THATS WHY THEY ARE BAD.

[Nadeshiko]

I'll agree that Ethan is annoying. But the voice acting (outside of him) is really pretty decent, and even *gasp* likeable in some spots. I got a kick out of the old guy, regardless of how generic he is.

In fact, that's the real problem with the whole story mode; it's so generic it's painful. I've gotten to chapter 5, and I'm honestly shocked Lumia hasn't been kidnapped so far.

[Starslicer]

To be quite honest, the story really looks generic, but by the time you get to chapter 7, things start getting interesting.

As a matter o' fact, I could tell other people haven't gotten far because they're snubbing Ethan for thinking that he's some kind of arrogant punk, when by the end of the game, he hardly even acts like that at all anymore.

[oz78]

On my part, I though he acted pretty retarded from chapter one, It didn't really prevent me from power leveling Ethan waber and making stuff to make him look good when I fight the mobs. Now that I've played through to chapter 9, I still think he acts like a moron.

[KailBq]

When I turned off the sound during cut scenes and what-not, all of the characters seemed pretty cool. Otherwise, it was pretty hard to watch.

[Matt12]

ethan rules hes so awsome one of the best :D :) :D

[Shinigami Elite]

I wouldn't consider myself to be an otaku, but I would LOVE to hear the voices in Japanese... for one reason only. >>; Paku Romi plays Tonnio. 'Nuff said. *is a Paku Romi fangirl*

Lessee... Ethan's alright. A bit too goody-goody. I like Tonnio who has a bit of an attitude. XD; Hyuga's pretty-boy style is amusing too.

[oz78]

Maybe someone can start a your "favourite story mode character?" Poll. On my side I really liked Karen, my next favourite would be Tonni as he's reactions are fun to watch.

[Choco]

Well in my pov, I dont hate ethan. As Sever mentioned about JP making better voice acting. I think they do, why? Cause the emotion deliverd by the writting of the story were written by a JP. And so the cultural stance is really diffrent onto what sounds funny and what sounds funky. SO when you jump something that was suppose to be JP dialogue into English. It goes to crap~

But in general the guys okay. I just wish they would have left the Japanese dialogue an option with english subs~ Keeps it to the true original feeling of it. I ain't no otaku, I ain't no big anime fan either. Just a person that hates dubs. Even spanish dubs~ even if I may be puerto rican~.

His attitude though to everything is good. A bit slow sometimes but ah, and he sounds like a crack addict sometimes too. But ah well~

[Nohmaan]

I figured out a good way to do an Ethan impersonation, all you have to do is put a clothespin on your nose and fil your mouth with cheese whiz, then talk. Hours of entertainment, and you could land a voicing deal for a up and coming game if you practice enough

[Amantha]

Ethan's voice and demeanor grate on my nerves big time. So much so that I haven't played past chapter 5. But you know...I hate his sister even more. God, I hate her so much. >.<

[Gene Starwind]

kinda a weird name...shouldnt it be weber ROFL

[PSU Link]

Ethan isn't too bad. I didn't like him at first, but he grows on ya!
I still think the best japanese RPG main char. is Vyse though!

[Starslicer]

Can't argue with that.

[Mareth]

^^ Ethan's not a bad character. His voice actor wasn't bad, he just has an accent. It almost reminds me of a very toned-down Arnold Schwartzenegger (sp?) accent. The only problem at all that I have with Ethan is that he starts with a midriff jacket. Something a man should nver have. And you can't change it until Ch. 4. Other than that, especially since you only ever really see the *back* of Ethan's jacket during gameplay, I think Ethan's a better character than most. Look at Vaan from Final Fantasy XII, for example. Vaan has good voice acting, as do all of FFXII's characters, but he wears low-hip pants and an armored tube-top..... Put simply, Vaan looks like a qu33r. Ethan doesn't.

[sakurajello]

actually they both look preetty gay...although thats a fad in all final fantasy games :D

[oz78]

retard points are picking up... why don't the voters post their opinions? Oh well, this is getting old anyway.

[Angstflamme]

The only thing that got me about his voice is that it almost sounded Hispanic. Kinda weird to me, but I still get along with Hyuga having the English accent.

[Darky1600]

He reminds me of Tidus from FFX whom is the king of all :):):):)ers

LMFAO ROFL, that really did make me laugh. o_____________o;

[Hiei67]

To be honest, I really like Ethan a lot. I really admire him too in several ways. One of the reasons is personaly, I see a lot of similarity between him and I. Im not going to get into that but I'll just say that we learn and think the same. But I didn't always see it that way. Like in other post, I had a sudden change of thought about him through out the chapters. The very first chapter when he goes to see the Maiden with his sister Lumia, when you go near a guard and talk to them, I read what he was saying in his mind. All what I could say is "Wow so the main character is a hard-:):):)?" But like I said, when I saw him go through the chapters, I started to really admire him and enjoy playing as him in story mode. Since I really liked story mode a lot then, I managed to beat it in 3 weeks (well I have a life too and need to do other things then sit around while on a lattop playing PSU all day, but I wish :) ) And when I did beat it and watched the very last scene of story mode before the credits, not gonna say it but Ethans line touched me. We'll so yeah thats my thought about all of this. And as for the part of not being able to change his appearance but his clothing, there could be a hidden reason for it. Not saying there is but you never know unless im wrong.

[redmage]

My quick synopsys of some fo the characters in PSU:

Ethan: stereotypical American (according to other countries), an upstart, headstrong kid

Hyuga: another stereotype this time English, gets his panties in a bunch quickly, thinks he's alright, and a ladies man

Headmaster Nav: very Yoda-esque in personality, he laughs at upstarts and shows them that though he's old, he's not down and out.

Magashi: A punk with a HUGE superiority complex, you could almost give him the mindset of Hitler or some other dictator.

That being said, I like Headmaster Nav the most. If Ethan weren't as whiny and actually had more of a backbone, I'd like him.

[~.:Unknown:.~]

At least Ethan doesn't look like a girl. Too many pretty boys in RPGS nowadays.

lol u notice... in every final fantasy. the main person*boys* look more and more like females? lol look at tidus, then vaan

[Mantastic]

As main characters in Japanese RPGs go, he's not too bad. I would've liked him better though if he was less of a whiny teenager in the beginning of the game.

His voice actor did a pretty bang up job too.

[sefiros]

On the contrary i liked ethans voice.

what i liked about the game as well was as the chapter progressed i could get him more expensive clothes and by the time i had the full innocent set, his better dressing helped to reflect that he was a more serious character.

also he had the balls to tell the girl he liked at the right time.

he's a pretty down to earth character.

[Kyasarin]

... I think I'll just point out something about him. Sorry if someone else posted it before me, but I didn't go through all the posts.

While flipping through a game magazine, I saw the face of Ethan on one of the "top ten" lists. He won second place in "Biggest dorks of the year". o_o; And Sora from KH won fifth place... I find it interesting. xD

[Somniloquy]

I just voted awesome. When I started and right up till chapter 7 I would have voted the other way. But he comes into his own as the ideal all-rounder in Ch 8 and beyond. I still find most of the battles in Story Mode to be tedious beyond belief but at least I have a chara that can do the job effectively.

[S w i f t]

lol talk about reviving a long dead topic

[Morgannamaru]

MASSIVE SPOILERAGE















I finished the game yesterday.

My thought is: Ethan was probably just portrayed badly, rather than he being a bad character in himself. I don't know if that makes any sense, but there you go.

One thing though: when Tonnio first showed up and stole Ethan's nano-thingy, I thought for a moment that Ethan was going to actually break his arm or something...that was sort of freaky. Anyone else feel that way?

Hyuga: His voice is sort of grating, but he doesn't seem to be a outright perv so I suppose I could trust him around females. For those complaining about his seeming fancy for Lumia, remember that things are a little more relaxed in Japan.

Lumia: I just don't like the way she looks. If I made the game, I would have made her look more like, say, Belldandy or at least Skuld. Anything but a 6 year old girl like she looked like.

Headmaster: I hate pervs, and had I been Ethan or Hyuga when he did what he did to Karen, I wouldn't have bothered calling the police, if you get what I mean. Thing is...does it count, since he's a robot? Other than that, I just don't like his attitude.

Karen: A little too submissive for her own good. No self-respecting woman should tolerate perverts for any reason. Perhaps it's because it's a japanese game. I am also not sure if she did the right thing, doing the thing she did halfway through the game.

Mirei: Read my sig. Also, I think they're trying to repeat history just a little bit with her death. I am, of course, talking about Nei, from Phantasy Star 2.

Alford Tylor: I think they ripped off FF8 with this one, guys. Still, his character provided another good example of a beast who wasn't always on the verge of losing it.

Liina: I don't care if I'm "disrespecting my elders," I say she's a sweetheart. <3

Leo: Cool guy, I wish I could be more like him.

Tonnio: All I can say about him is, I'm glad he's on our side.

Rutsu: Why did he have to turn into a jerk towards the end? I mean, shouldn't he trust the Maiden enough to not, say, BLAME ETHAN FOR HER COLLAPSING?

Lou: I don't trust her one bit.

Vol Brothers: The sad thing is, I'm probably more like them, being a leech and a failure at life for the most part. One thing though...why didn't the beast guy complain when the human guy said that beast women stink, in the first online story mission?

President: I really, really, REALLY want this guy to turn out to be secretly evil. I thought for sure that he might have been trying to kill Karen in Chapter 10, and that might be why Ethan alledgedly tried to kill him.

[Keres]

The only thing I dislike of him is his voice.

It is similar to the voice of a child that would be promised 50$ for being the voice for a character in a game.

[Lunacara]

I am not going to vote because Ethan does not fit into the two categories for me. His appearance is fine, fighting style is ok, it is just the voice that is so irritating.

[Shinaru]

Ethan was designed to be a character that anyone can relate to, once again reinforcing the fact that anyone can be a hero, and what kind of a big brother with no parents will allow his little sister to go out and fight? Hell I doubt even Ethan's dad, Olson would allow Ethan himself to go if he was still alive, 'cause they care a lot.

Also I liked the president, most of the problems came from the AMF with their CAST government, after all, they're CAST with superiority complexes, whether it's self opinionated or peer pressured, more than likely peer pressured which then becomes a habit. Other than that I could relate to him through the rumor as a seemingly shy guy who's quiet all the time but is actually quite the talkative guy who jokes around a lot

[Iduno]

at 1st I wished they had given us the options to use japanese voices as soon as ethan opened his mouth, then later on along came tonio who is just under tails as on of the most annoying game characters whoes voices I've had to endure, now I feel I can tolerate any other voice easily now (well apart from all the characters in the sonic games they should have never spoken)

[Darkii]

I love Karen *_* and ethan is a good boy, a little silly but... xD

[Raijinryuu]

go Tylor :D

[TyrandanteIII]

alot of people hate ethan b/c they only [play the first 2 chapters (i went around and asked people online...nearly 60 out of 70 people didnt make it past chapter 2......). for the others who have, thats where you make your decision. I really didnt really like ethan that much til the later chapters..then in the last one..before the final boss...lets just say, he earns his manhood.

[Caliban]

As far as RPG protagonists go, I'd say he's pretty good.

He isn't too femmy, even with the midrift, compared to others.

He actually sounds like a he. He has a strange accent I can't place, same with Karen. Like maybe the cadence is a little off. I don't know, but as far as voice acting goes for video games in general, I'd say it's pretty good.



Oh, and far as Tidus comparisons go, Tidus was gayer than a tree full of Elton Johns.

[Policroma]

I'll be honest. I really liked his voice. As others have mentioned, it's a goofy, sarcastic, "Average Joe" voice, and it fits him perfectly.

That said, it had kind of a weird accent to it that I can't place... Maybe I'm delusional.

Edit: Yeep, Caliban! You beat me!

[googen]

ethan is a bit useless in the english game but in the japanesse he sound awsome (play online story the mask: and whan you fight him lisen close he may speak in japanesse) he still wears the same clothes but the voice is better in japanesse NO LIE :evil: :lol:

[S w i f t]

i heard him speak in english

if im right he said

now you have someone to play with

wtf? LOL

[Nanunanew]

Ethan was an okay hero. Of the things I didn't like about him were his face (because it I've seen quite a few people in network mode that have it, but what can you do, he was born with it) and the cutscenes that involved fighting (but that's more of a motion capture and weapon design issue than Ethan's).

Considering I haven't heard Ethan's VA work, it was a new voice for me that did a fairly good job overall. The only real fault I could see in the acting is that the scenes were sequenced for Japanese voices and Japanese movements, which is less a voice acting problem and more the original Japanese's doing.

And Ethan's open belly jacket is just not my thing. Male heroes in Japan love showing their midrift area lately (Tidus, Max of Shining Force, Shining Force EXA, Tales of Eternia, Tales of Symphonia, Ethan, there's probably a few others).

[ultreos]

Ethan reminds me of a bad@$$ character, only without such a bad@$$ voice.

He seems like the kind of guy you could see going up in ranks with such powerhouses from games in the past. So take this in for a moment. Cloud wasn't quite the bad@$$ Ethan is trying to be, but you can't help but get a tingly feeling whenever you use Omnislash. Ethan seems to be going in the right direction for being a more or less constant Omnislash type feeling.

He seems a little rash, and also seems to jump to conclusions to often, but as the game progresses, he seems to gain more knowledge of how to handle things, and grows substantially towards the end both in power and character development.

And if any of you have beaten chapter five of online mode.

Spoilers!













Ethan has taken on a new costume, which is one of the many complaints people try to come up with for Ethan. Things are definitely getting interesting with how he ranks as a main character.

[yusaku]

After finally beating this game, here's my take on Ethan:

Even with his slighty one-tone voice actor(I'm guessing he couldn't do much considering that the lines in japanese were probably smaller, thus harder to input emotion, like Speed Racer, I guess), he strikes me as a memorable character in the same ranks as Ryo Hazuki, Vyse and Sonic the Hedgehog.

I haven't played many RPGs in recent times so I can't comment on the likes of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest, but I got my fix with Enchanted Arms and Phantasy Star Universe. And if we compare the main characters of each game(Atsuma and Ethan), Ethan wins by a landslide.

[MrMadison]

Ethan's voice actor is pathetic. He had like no emotion in his voice.

You honestly have no taste in voice acting whatsoever.

That voice actor didn't have a monotone voice at all and it didn't sound like a voice you wouldn't expect from the character at all.

Do you even have a justifiable reason why you think this?

the majority of the time Ethan sounds like he's drunk.

his american voice is terrible.

[Tamashi]

Ethan's voice actor is pathetic. He had like no emotion in his voice.

You honestly have no taste in voice acting whatsoever.

That voice actor didn't have a monotone voice at all and it didn't sound like a voice you wouldn't expect from the character at all.

Do you even have a justifiable reason why you think this?

the majority of the time Ethan sounds like he's drunk.

his american voice is terrible.

You just bumped a 3 month old topic, moron.

[Roku17]

I want to inport the JAPAN ONE

[MrMadison]

The only thing I dislike of him is his voice.


QFT

[MrMadison]

You just bumped a 3 month old topic, moron.

you'll live.

[Tamashi]

You just bumped a 3 month old topic, moron.

you'll live.

Clearly bumping a 3 month old topic that everyone had lost intrest in is okay right? Oh yeahhhhh your a real player for almost bending the rules. :wink:

[MrMadison]

You just bumped a 3 month old topic, moron.

you'll live.

Clearly bumping a 3 month old topic that everyone had lost intrest in is okay right? Oh yeahhhhh your a real player for almost bending the rules. :wink:

Yup. PSU is over, all because I bumped an old topic. oh the agony.

my apologies, I forgot that the PSU Forums were such Serious Business.

look man, if it bothers you SOOOOOOO much, ask the Mods to ban me or something. otherwise, just let it go because it really isn't as big a deal as you are trying to make it out to be.

[Deathdealer4]

Ethan is bad but hey...there have been worse main chars in the history of gaming....look at Dante from Devil may cry 3!

At least Ethan has never posed and said "This party's gettin crazy!!" :shock:

OMG Dante is the :):):):)ing best >.<

[Mujestu]

At least he's better then Cloud Strife I hate that :):):):):).. :evil:

[Mosemah]

i hated him more in the beginning, he got alright at the end. Least he's not as bad as Tidus

[hwayunhae]

Okay, to help explain why so many characters suck, I'll use this simple phrase.

"Light travels faster than sound. That's why people appear bright before you hear them speak."

I didn't even get through this entire thread. but I have to quote you.

and on topic: I didn't mind ethan so much after I reached about the middle of story mode. As for the little sister thing...the few times she waited outside of GHQ before he caught her with Hyuga, it was more a 'she came to visit me, okay...' sort of thing...

but hyuga is a KNOWN flirt. he'll hit on anything cute and female. so finding him alone with his sister...I would have been upset, too. notice that the first thing about ethan's mouth at that time was an accusation to hyuga, that he was supposed to NOT be alone with her.

Therefore, everytime she showed up at HQ after that, ethan /probably/ thought she was there to see hyuga...not necessarily him, since she always acted surprised and/or guilty when she noticed he was there.

All in all, i find his actions understandable in that he was still a teenager himself and had to take care of his little sister on his own. He was a bit whiny in the beginning, and despite being on the mid-range of the IQ scale, he also had a good head on his shoulders. by the end of the game, I was really looking forward to having him as an NPC on network mode....

=(

[spoiler]
can't tell you how disappointing it was to hear that either it's not possible, or i'd have to wait till AotI....

[Mono`]

Ethan Waber is awesome. Whenever a few friends and I would get together and have a few drinks, whoever passed out first we'd push down the stairs, take a picture of one of us with our hands extended outward as if it was done in a rapid motion, then upload the picture. From there we'd put a giant arrow over the guy who passed out and write "ETHAN WABER" above it.

From then on it became a commonplace insult to us whenever something beyond logic was done/said. "Shut up, Ethan Waber!" or ":):):):):):):), John, you're really pulling an Ethan Waber today."

[Cuga Stratos]

Ethan just annoys me. I mean, he's just such a goofball to me from the beginning the end.

Apparantly in the upcoming AoI he looks more palatable . Thank goodness he's had a falling out with Karen... (she was too good for him) lol.

Hyuga's fun, I just hate his "purty" boy look that tries to be pretty but falls a bit short.

[maxmouse]

Ethan is my Favorite character in the game.. even more than my Extra characters.

lol speaking of the Vol Brothers (someone on Page1) I thought it was funny how in the beginning he kicked the Vol Brothers' behinds and they kept coming back throughout the chapters.. And I still get to go 1 Vs 3 with them and still own them. I hope I can do it in Chapter 12 cause thats where I am. lol