EVERYTHING you need to know about Expert Classes.

[Genesiser]

This is for all those people out there that are out there that are wondering what the stats are like for each job. This isnt just for the lvl 10 job, it shows the stat progression from lvl 1 to lvl 10.

While this info may not be so valuable now, when the expert classes come out, people will be wanting to know how it is.

A way to understand how this is set up, each race has base stats for each lvl. And each job lvl of a certain class effects your stats a certain way. For example, a lvl 10 hunter has 130% hp (or 30% more hp added to your base stat). Likewise, they have 94% acc (or 6% less than the base stat).

While I dont know the stats for every single lvl, I do have the stats for lvl 60 chars which can be seen here, and you can use as a basic reference for stat differences between races. http://xs209.xs.to/xs209/06474/BaseStats60.JPG

(credit goes to Sei Aynite for the stats of each race at lvl 60)


Hunter lvl 10
HP 130%
Atp 125%
Acc 94%
TP 30%
Dfp 145%
Eva 80%
Mst 80%
Sta 100%
Chr 100%

Ranger lvl 10
HP 104%
Atp 94%
Acc 145%
TP 35%
Dfp 100%
Eva 120%
Mst 60%
Sta 110%
Chr 100%

Force lvl 10
HP 90%
Atp 70%
Acc 74%
TP 130%
Dfp 100%
Eva 160%
Mst 150%
Sta 100%
Chr 100%

For FIGUNNER, GUNTECHER, and WARTECHER go here.
http://xs209.xs.to/xs209/06474/AdvType1.JPG

For FORTEFIGHTER, FORTEGUNNER, FORTECHER, and PROTRANSER, go here.
http://xs309.xs.to/xs309/06474/AdvTypes2.JPG

(Thanks go to Sei Aynite for making it pretty and easier to read)

*** There are only three classes that get a bonus to crit% and that is Guntecher (30%) Fortegunner (30%) and Protranser (50%) ***



************* Weapon Types for each expert class ************


** Four classes can use traps and those classes are Figunners, Guntechers, Fortegunners, and Protransers. The following equations represent how to calculate the damage the traps will be doing to the enemies. Please note that Figunner, Guntecher, and Fortegunner have diferent equations than the protranser.

x = character lvl

Figunner, Guntecher, and Fortegunner
Normal Traps = .75 * x + 181
G traps = 1.25 * x + 115

Protranser
Normal Traps = 1.25 * x + 115
G traps = 1.75 * x + 181

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FORTEFIGHTER (lvl 10 Hunter) (Uses lvl 30 PAs and lvl 10 Bullets)
S Rank Weapons: Sword, Knuckle, Spear, Axe, Claws, Twin Claws

A Rank Weapons: Daggers, Twin Daggers, Sabers, Twin Sabers, Handguns
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FORTEGUNNER (lvl 10 Ranger) (Uses lvl 30 Bullets and lvl 10 PAs)
S Rank Weapons: Rifle, Shotgun, Grenade Launcher, Laser Cannon,Handgun

A Rank Weapons: Spear, Saber, Dagger, Twin Handguns, Crossbows, Machineguns
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FORTECHER (lvl 10 Force) (Uses lvl 30 Technics and lvl 30 Bullets)
S Rank Weapons: Rods, Wands, Cards, Bows

A Rank Weapons: Spears, Daggers, Twin Daggers, Sabers, Handguns
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WARTECHER (lvl 3 hunter, lvl 5 force) (Uses lvl 20 PAs, lvl 10 Bullets, and lvl 20 Technics)
S Rank Weapons: Daggers, Twin Daggers

A Rank Weapons: Wands, Cards, Handguns, Bows, Claws, Twin Claws, Sabers, Twin Sabers, Spears, Knuckles
__________


GUNTECHER (lvl 5 ranger, lvl 3 force) (Uses lvl 10 PAs, lvl 30 Bullets, and lvl 10 Technics)
S Rank Weapons: Handguns, Twin Handguns, Crossbows, Machineguns

A Rank Weapons: Wands, Cards, Bows, Laser Cannon, Shotguns, Rifles, Sabers, Daggers
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FIGUNNER (lvl 5 hunter, lvl 3 ranger) (Uses lvl 30 PAs and lvl 20 Bullets)
S Rank Weapons: Sabers, Twin Sabers, Daggers, Twin Daggers, Double Saber

A Rank Weapons: Swords, Knuckles, Spears, Claws, Twin Claws, Handguns, Twin Handguns, Crossbows, Machineguns
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PROTRANSER (lvl 5 hunter, lvl 5 force, lvl 5 ranger) (Uses lvl 30 PAs and lvl 30 Bullets)
S Rank Weapons: None

A Rank Weapons: Swords, Knuckles, Spears, Axes, Sabers, Bows, Shotguns, Grenade Launchers, Laser Cannons, Handguns
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************ updated info ***********

There seems to be some confusion about bonuses that a race gets to different classes. This should clear it up for you guys that have been wondering how much itll effect it.

These are the classes that the races get bonuses to.

Humans: Figunner, Guntecher, Wartecher, Protranser
Newmans: Force, Guntecher, Wartecher, Fortecher
Casts: Ranger, Fortegunner
Beasts: Hunter, Fortefighter

Instead of putting it in the spread sheet, ill just throw it on here to allow for easier access.

Protranser (human excels)
HP 3.5%
ATP 2%
Acc 3%
TP 1.5%
Dfp 3%
Eva 3%
Mst 1.5%

Fortecher (Newman excels)
HP 2.3%
Atp 2%
Acc 2%
TP 5%
Dfp 2%
Eva 6%
Mst 7%

Fortegunner (Cast excels)
HP 3.5%
Atp 3%
Acc 6%
TP 1%
Dfp 3%
Eva 5%
Mst 1%

Fortefighter (Beast excels)
HP 4%
Atp 4%
Acc 3%
TP 1%
Dfp 4%
Eva 1.5%
Mst 1.5%

Wartecher (Newman and Humans excel)
HP 3.8%
Atp 3%
Acc 2.5%
TP 3%
Dfp 3%
Eva 5%
Mst 3%

Guntecher (Newman and Humans excel)
HP 3%
Atp 3%
Acc 5%
TP 1.5%
Dfp 3%
Eva 3%
Mst 3%

Figunner (Humans excel)
HP 3.5%
Atp 3%
Acc 3%
TP 1%
Dfp 3%
Eva 2.5%
Mst 1.5%

********** UPDATED ver 2 *****

There seems to be some confusion on the part of how many job points you need to lvl up your job. This here shows the points needed for each job lvl. (points you get after each mission that raises your job experience)

Basic Classes
Level .....NEXT point...... Sum total
1→2........... 60 .................60
2→3 ...........70 .................130
3→4 ...........80 .................210
4→5 ...........100 ...............310
5→6 ...........120 ...............430
6→7 ...........130 ...............560
7→8 ...........140 ...............700
8→9 ...........150 ...............850
9→10 .........150 ...............1000

Expert Classes
Level ........NEXT point .....Sum total
1→2 .........400 ................400
2→3 .........500 ................900
3→4 .........600 ...............1500
4→5 .........750 ...............2250
5→6 .........1500 .............3750
6→7 .........750 ...............4500
7→8 .........1000 .............5500
8→9 .........1000 .............6500
9→10 .......1500 .............8000

[Johnny B]

:):):):):):):) dude, thats good work. Everywhere you look for info about the expert classes, you only see the stats for lvl 10. Only problem is its going to take a long time to get there. Ive been wondering what the stats would be like for the lower lvls.

Great work man, you get a thumbs up from me.

[Kadious]

That truly is some awesome work. I just need to know one thing. When these charts say for ex. hp 120%, what is that based on. Hunter level, level 50 stats? I know it maybe a noobish question but thanks for the help.

[Genesiser]

That truly is some awesome work. I just need to know one thing. When these charts say for ex. hp 120%, what is that based on. Hunter level, level 50 stats? I know it maybe a noobish question but thanks for the help.

What that is based on, is any lvl you are. Each race, has base stats for each lvl. Only problem, is it is almost impossible to find out your stats, unless you have a lvl 10 job because you that is the only info I have found on basic job stats. Ill look to find the stat bonuses for the beginner classes though. All that you can find out (from what ive seen) is the lvl 10 for each job.

Anyways, if you have a job that is lvl 10 right now, you can go to psupedia to find out the stat bonuses for that class, and multiply your actual stats to find out what your stats are. Say for example, you see hunter at lvl 10 has 130% hp. Take the hp you have now and multiply that by .3 (or 30%). Once you have that number, subtract it from your stat and youll find your base. Or if you see a stat is at 85%, you would multiply that stat by 1.15 (or 15%) and you would get your base stat.

Does that explain it for you a bit?

Oh btw, when you see the stats, if it is under the column for lvl 1,2,3 and so on, it means your actual job lvl for that job. (The lvls you get when you get enough mission points at the end of each mission) So far you can only get the max of lvl 10 for a job.

[Kadious]

Ok, Thats perfect Thanks. I may ask noob questions but i am not a noob so that explains it perfectly.

[Genesiser]

Ok, Thats perfect Thanks. I may ask noob questions but i am not a noob so that explains it perfectly.

Glad to of helped. 8)

[Our L4st H0p3]

Wow thats awesome! :P Thanx! ^^
Though just wondering...
Do u have a stat chart to show what the begginer stats give so I can compare it with the expert classes or would that be impossible/too hard to come by?

[Genesiser]

Wow thats awesome! :P Thanx! ^^
Though just wondering...
Do u have a stat chart to show what the begginer stats give so I can compare it with the expert classes or would that be impossible/too hard to come by?

Sorry man, ive looked and looked, asked some japanese friends of mine, and noone knows and noone can find it. Sorry man :(

[Papa_Justify]

OP: Will you marry me?

[Sei Aynite]

Wow thats awesome! :P Thanx! ^^
Though just wondering...
Do u have a stat chart to show what the begginer stats give so I can compare it with the expert classes or would that be impossible/too hard to come by?

Sorry man, ive looked and looked, asked some japanese friends of mine, and noone knows and noone can find it. Sorry man :(

Oh, is that so?! What's this HERE then!
http://xs309.xs.to/xs309/06474/HumanStats.JPG

Sei to the rescue! These are the stats for a level 1 male human hunter with all class types also at rank 1. Obviously this only covers the human end, but since their stats are balanced for the most part you ought to be able to glean what the other races would be around.

I could build up some kind of presumptual list, but it wouldn't be 100% accurate. It's easier just to make rough estimates!

To get the stat multipliers, just compare the stats of the HU RA and FO levels to the other levels in the list.

[Genesiser]

Hey sei, good info man. However I think he was asking about the percentages the jobs get. At least, thats what I thought. But if he was looking for that info, then he is set.

Once again, nice find :D

[Sei Aynite]

Hey sei, good info man. However I think he was asking about the percentages the jobs get. At least, thats what I thought. But if he was looking for that info, then he is set.

Once again, nice find :D

Yeah, I know. I edited my post. It has all the info you need in my chart, but you just need to dig for it a little bit.

[Genesiser]

BTW man, it says Im not allowed to access your spread sheet :(

[Sei Aynite]

That's odd. There don't seem to be any options for me to allow anyone to see it, or make it read-only.

Edit: Try the new link I put up. It's a link directly to the HTML.

[Genesiser]

Now it just brings up a blank page :(

[Sei Aynite]

Yeeaarrgh! Screw this. One second.

Edit: BRU HA HA! Screw you, google! Now check the link.

[Genesiser]

Ha ha, right on, its working now. Good work man, lookin good.

[Red Green Blue]

Yeeaarrgh! Screw this. One second.

Edit: BRU HA HA! Screw you, google! Now check the link.

Can you do that for your main link?

[Sei Aynite]

Yeeaarrgh! Screw this. One second.

Edit: BRU HA HA! Screw you, google! Now check the link.

Can you do that for your main link?

Considering it isn't MY link, NO!

>=D

But I can still do it, I guess.

[Genesiser]

Hey sei, if you can go for it. Ill just throw that link in the first post. Just post the link.

(its easier to view your way)

[Sei Aynite]

http://xs209.xs.to/xs209/06474/AdvType1.JPG

Bam!

Kickin' it up a notch!

http://xs309.xs.to/xs309/06474/AdvTypes2.JPG

BAM!

BA-BAM!

Done.

[Genesiser]

Cool its up. Thanks man, it makes it easy to read. I dunno how you did it, but rock on.

[Sei Aynite]

I used my internet wizardry. First I descended down the festering halls of Googledom, slayed the beast of Cantsaveit, and then captured the souls of the damned HTML demons in my mighty picture box! With the help of a traveling artist named Emes Payint I was able to bring the Lord's mighty decree down upon the land!

BRU HA HA HA!

Edit:

But all was not well! You posted the link to the first half of the spreadsheet HTML twice. Better fix that.

[Genesiser]

Good lookin out, got it fixed now.

[Sei Aynite]

Hey, I bet you guys thought you were done loving me.

But you were wrong.

Here are the base stats for the level 60 characters. Sorry I don't have them for 50, but since the cap is going to be increased to 60 with the new classes... that won't really matter much! The stats aren't exact due to some rounding up/down, but they're as close as you could possibly hope for.

http://xs209.xs.to/xs209/06474/BaseStats60.JPG

Use these in conjunction with the tables we've already provided to get a better idea of what to expect out of your character.

[Kadious]

You guys rock, this has been the most helpful post i have read so far. ROCK ON! :lol:

[Sei Aynite]

\m/(>_<)\m/

[Tafumi]

Useful especially because I was torn between Guntecher and Fortegunner. Those stats help me see what I'll be getting out of each deal before I have to go manually level each one up. Though I'll probably do that anyway~

Even moreso because I had no clue that specific races got bonuses if they play specific class. Despite my history of being a formula/stat junkie.

Fortegunner for the preverbial win~

[Sei Aynite]

Guntecher seems to get a raw deal in terms of stats as compared to the Wartecher. Wartechers can use up to level 20 techs, but Guntechers only get 10! They're missing out on all the level 2 buffs.

[Genesiser]

Hey Sei, good find with those base stats. Props goes to you there. BTW, I added it to the first post.

[Genesiser]

You guys rock, this has been the most helpful post i have read so far. ROCK ON! :lol:

No prob man, it's always good to be informed before you spend a crazy amount of time lvling something up to see if it's good. Besides, what good is keeping this info to ourselves? Know what im saying?

[Sei Aynite]

You guys rock, this has been the most helpful post i have read so far. ROCK ON! :lol:

No prob man, it's always good to be informed before you spend a crazy amount of time lvling something up to see if it's good. Besides, what good is keeping this info to ourselves? Know what im saying?

I have more information, but I'm selling it at a hundred thousand meseta a pop.

... It's juicy. =D

[Ryenoh]

From JP database i see it says human have bonus on all

Race bonus is as follows
Human: All basic jobs and all superior compound jobs ([purotoranza] it includes)
Cast: Ranger, [huoruteganna] <= Fortegunner?
B strike: Hunter, [huorutehuaita] <= Forterfighter?
New man: Fourth, [huorutekuta], cancer/gun tech tar and war tech tar <=Fortetecher? lol

Found at psu-wiki
Values and everything else included hard to read though better for these guys to put it in english version GG.

[Sei Aynite]

From JP database i see it says human have bonus on all

Race bonus is as follows
Human: All basic jobs and all superior compound jobs ([purotoranza] it includes)
Cast: Ranger, [huoruteganna] <= Fortegunner?
B strike: Hunter, [huorutehuaita] <= Forterfighter?
New man: Fourth, [huorutekuta], cancer/gun tech tar and war tech tar <=Fortetecher? lol

Found at psu-wiki.jp
Values and everything else included hard to read though better for these guys to put it in english version GG.

I'm reading the very same website, and it doesn't specify "basic" jobs. Here's the direct quote:

Human: All superior compound jobs ([purotoranza] it includes)

No mention of the basic classes.

[Ryenoh]

I copied and pasted it lol but ok

[Sei Aynite]

Race bonus is as follows
Human: All superior compound jobs ([purotoranza] it includes)
Cast: Ranger, [huoruteganna]
B strike: Hunter, [huorutehuaita]
New man: Fourth, [huorutekuta], cancer/gun tech tar and war tech tar
* Concerning while verifying the information seeking [mu]

Direct quote.

[Ryenoh]

OH! i see now, I'm at the actual website

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fpsu.fei-yen.jp%2Fwiki%2Fhtml%2F&langpair=ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF8

It was a misunderstanding, i should of been more clear.

[Sei Aynite]

Yeah, I know. You're at the same one I'm at, as I said!

[Johnny B]

Damn they should like, sticky this. It's got all the info that people ask about in terms of races and expert classes. (except for all the stuff thats easy to find, like what lvl skills each class can use, and weapon types)

[HeavensLight]

Good Stuf Genesiser. Thanks for sharing. Kudos to you!

[metric]

great work indeed but this is just too mutch tease for me since we all know we aint gonna get the update this week :cry:

[Athanatos]

And you guys thought Sei was good for nothing...shame on you.

[Chaotist Razor]

Just another random reply praising the good work in this topic. 8)

[Athanatos]

So can I get an exact comparison of the base stats for both a Beast and CAST Fortefighter at max level / job level?

That'd make my life simpler.

[Sei Aynite]

I've stumbled upon some interesting information. The more I looked over this data provided by the PSU Wiki... the more it just plain didn't add up. The stats were much, much lower than they should have been.

In fact, upon closer inspection a level 60, rank 10 Fortefighter has the same HP value as a rank 10 Hunter does according to the formulas we've been given. This is incorrect.

The presumed rate of growth, which is constant for each of the races, should bring a Beast Male hunter within the 4300 HP range as a level 10 Fortefighter at level 100, and this just wasn't happening from what I was seeing. This and all of the other values seemed much lower than they should have been.

I played with the numbers quite a bit, and they came up almost exact when I added the multiplier not to the base stats of a race, but to the basic type in the case of Fortefighter.

It might take a minute to drink it all in, but it does make quite a bit more sense. After all, if it were going off of just the base stats using the current suggested system, when you hit your advanced job you would weaken considerably and revert to your base stats, often losing much more in the case of certain stats that are automatically reduced below their 100% value.

As an example, a Male Beast hunter at level 60(provided he hadn't leveled Fortefighter at all) switching to Ff would have his HP reduced to 1644. That's less HP than I have on my 50 Beast Hunter! That can't be right.

Therefore, in order to make sense of all of this... the base stats cannot be what the advanced types go off of. There's just no way.

[Sei Aynite]

Alright, here's your Beast/Cast Fortefighter comparison, as it should be.

http://xs309.xs.to/xs309/06474/60ForteFighter.JPG

[Genesiser]

So what youre saying, is the expert classes stat bonuses stack with the basic classes? Because Ive never seen anything on that. Reason I say is because it just wouldnt make sense. Especially for the hybrid classes, because it would make them extremely weaker than the main classes. For example, a lvl 10 fortefighter gets a 130% bonus to hp, and a lvl 30 hunter gets a 130% bonus to hp. Therefore, they would be the same hp.

I see how you got your numbers because you took the class bonuses and added them up to the bonuses the hunter got. I know they are expert classes, but I dont think they are meant to be THAT much stronger, know what I mean? Also, i think the main thing about expert classes is the type of weapons they can use, and skills. Know what I mean?

[Genesiser]

Here you go, these are the lvl 60 stats according to the japanese site.

Its not pretty, but youll be able to read it.

Hunter Lv10 †
Race Human Cast B strike New man
Sex Man Woman Man Woman Man Woman Man Woman
HP 1743 1689 1976 1922 2201 2090 1602 1548
atp 601 576 641 616 713 687 513 487
acc 197 189 223 216 168 160 208 201
tp 182 188 98 104 111 118 216 221
dfp 150 156 171 178 164 170 136 142
Eva 161 168 1 20 127 149 156 171 177
mst 62 68 38 41 46 48 98 106
End 10 12 10 12 10 12 10 12

[huorutehuaita] Lv10 † (fortefighter)
Race Human Cast B strike New man
Sex Man Woman Man Woman Man Woman Man Woman
HP 1709 1656 1976 1922 2201 2090
atp 604 578 656 631 730 704
acc 206 198 238 230 179 170
tp 148 154 82 87 92 98
dfp 153 159 177 184 169 176
eva 99 103 75 79 93 97
mst 61 67 38 41 46 48
ebd 10 12 10 12 10 12

[Sei Aynite]

That's the list I was looking at before, and it is incorrect.

Look at the differences between the stats of a level 10 hunter and a level 10 Fortefighter.

No difference in HP, and next to no difference in even their primary stats; 20 extra ATP? That's nothing at all.

In fact, according to those stats the only way to even be on par with a rank 10 hunter in terms of ATP as a Fortefighter is to be rank 8; getting to rank 8 Ff takes six times as many mission points as getting to rank 10 on Hunter. It would be ludicrous have lower stats for that amount of time, and your only reward would be higher rank equipment and PA's. In the beginning, even with the best A ranks you would still be weaker than if you just stuck with your B's as a Hunter. Doesn't add up!

[Kadious]

Bump

[Genesiser]

That's the list I was looking at before, and it is incorrect.

Look at the differences between the stats of a level 10 hunter and a level 10 Fortefighter.

No difference in HP, and next to no difference in even their primary stats; 20 extra ATP? That's nothing at all.

In fact, according to those stats the only way to even be on par with a rank 10 hunter in terms of ATP as a Fortefighter is to be rank 8; getting to rank 8 Ff takes six times as many mission points as getting to rank 10 on Hunter. It would be ludicrous have lower stats for that amount of time, and your only reward would be higher rank equipment and PA's. In the beginning, even with the best A ranks you would still be weaker than if you just stuck with your B's as a Hunter. Doesn't add up!

There is a reason they are almost the same.

A lvl 10 hunter gets 130% bonus to HP and 125% bonus to atp.

A lvl 10 fortefighter gets 130% bonus to HP and 128% bonus to atp.

That's why it is so close.

[Ryenoh]

Yep the JP are wrong and your right lol nevermind i didn't post anything.

[Kadious]

I am not trying to be a jurk or anything becuase i know this is alot of work but in the "Points to next level" part for "expert classes" it takes like 750 from 4->5 then 1500 for 5->6 that 750 again for 6->7...? Just want to make sure thats right because it reads a little funny, and i have said it befor and will again really awesome work on this thread tho, thanks.

[Genesiser]

I am not trying to be a jurk or anything becuase i know this is alot of work but in the "Points to next level" part for "expert classes" it takes like 750 from 4->5 then 1500 for 5->6 that 750 again for 6->7...? Just want to make sure thats right because it reads a little funny, and i have said it befor and will again really awesome work on this thread tho, thanks.

That is correct sir. I admit, its a lil funky, but hey. I didnt write the code for this game. I guess they wanted to give you a small break for one lvl or something. Who knows eh?

[Kadious]

Ok thanks, just wanted to make sure the info is correct because it is alot of effort on you part to have any of it wrong.

[Genesiser]

No prob.

Btw, I added the stat bonuses a lvl 10 basic job gives you so you can compare them to the advance job you decide to use. I couldnt find the info for stats from lvl 1-9, but lvl 10 I guess is good enough to at least give you an idea.

[Johnny B]

I still dont know why they havent stickied this post. I mean it has some great info that everyone could use while playing this game. To be honest, it seems to be more helpful than that crafting guide they have stickied already... at least to me that is.

[elmout]

That's the list I was looking at before, and it is incorrect.

Look at the differences between the stats of a level 10 hunter and a level 10 Fortefighter.

No difference in HP, and next to no difference in even their primary stats; 20 extra ATP? That's nothing at all.

In fact, according to those stats the only way to even be on par with a rank 10 hunter in terms of ATP as a Fortefighter is to be rank 8; getting to rank 8 Ff takes six times as many mission points as getting to rank 10 on Hunter. It would be ludicrous have lower stats for that amount of time, and your only reward would be higher rank equipment and PA's. In the beginning, even with the best A ranks you would still be weaker than if you just stuck with your B's as a Hunter. Doesn't add up!

axe... 8)

[Johnny B]

Pure Bumpage!

[Kadious]

Really this should be "sticky". People ask for this info everyday. BUMP

[Kadious]

should i stop BUMPING this? It seems stupid to let all the work and info go to waste.

[Smackpwn]

You guys just dont know how good 30 melee PA is compared to 20

It makes some PA's do alot more damage, you cant get that last part of the combo if you only have 20

Like the spear PA for example, im talkinga bout the AE one on offline mode

With 20 melee it just hits twice, its alot like the sword pay we have on online mode, with 30 it gets TWO extra hits on it

20 Melee = 650, 670

30 melee = 680, 690, 720 x2

Not to mention the PA has more damage and accuracy and then you got A rank weapons, so yes going fortefighter is a very significant increase in damage than staying a hunter

[Genesiser]

I still dont know why they havent stickied this post. I mean it has some great info that everyone could use while playing this game. To be honest, it seems to be more helpful than that crafting guide they have stickied already... at least to me that is.

I dunno, but aparently you're not the only one that wants this stickied.

[Genesiser]

* Changed name of topic because it includes all the expert class information that there is at this time. When the information about lvl 11+ stats for the jobs come out, I will update the page.

[grimoz]

I still dont know why they havent stickied this post. I mean it has some great info that everyone could use while playing this game. To be honest, it seems to be more helpful than that crafting guide they have stickied already... at least to me that is.

I dunno, but aparently you're not the only one that wants this stickied.

I would like this stickied with the most epic of glue!
And actually thanks to those who bump it, I actually had missed this thread several times till I posted asking about it. Nice work! :shock:

[RubyEclipse]

Word from above has arrived, and the most epic of glue will now be stickying this thread for easy viewing by forum members. :) No future bumps are needed, but please feel free to continue the discussions!

[Rockmanzero]

After looking at all this info I am just curious about Wartecher. I had always heard it was lvl 3hunter lvl 5force but in here you have the opposite. Just wondering if I heard the wrong info or maybe you accidentally mixed it up 8)

[AlphaByte]

Lol this got stickied.

[Johnny B]

Lol this got stickied.

Of course it did, this thread is badas.s! It's about time it got stickied too.

BTW Alpha, why are you laughing that this got stickied? It has like, ALL the info about expert classes and then some. Are you upset that your post didnt get stickied even though you asked like 20 times? Maybe if half your post wasnt all about different abbreviations of this game, when people dont use those anymore, except hardcore PSO vets, it might had had a chance.

Either way, this is one awesome thread. And I for one am very happy about it.

[Genesiser]

After looking at all this info I am just curious about Wartecher. I had always heard it was lvl 3hunter lvl 5force but in here you have the opposite. Just wondering if I heard the wrong info or maybe you accidentally mixed it up 8)

Ya that was my bad. I put in the job requirements this morning when I woke up. It's fixed now, thanks for pointing that out.



Cool, my first sticky on a forum. Hope all this info helps people out for when they try to determine their expert classes.

[LamarJ]

First off, good work on gathering all the info,
Question:Will a character be able to play multiple expert classes?
Also, I could be mistaken but I thought Figunner had more Sranks, this is according to a post from PSO-world...
:shock:

[Genesiser]

First off, good work on gathering all the info,
Question:Will a character be able to play multiple expert classes?
Also, I could be mistaken but I thought Figunner had more Sranks, this is according to a post from PSO-world...
:shock:

Thanks for the complement.

Q1. Yes, you can play multiple expert classes, itll be the same as using basic classes in terms of going to the guild and changing them.

Q2. Nope, Figunner can only use 5 types of S rank weapons.

[AlphaByte]

Lol this got stickied.

Of course it did, this thread is badas.s! It's about time it got stickied too.

BTW Alpha, why are you laughing that this got stickied? It has like, ALL the info about expert classes and then some. Are you upset that your post didnt get stickied even though you asked like 20 times? Maybe if half your post wasnt all about different abbreviations of this game, when people dont use those anymore, except hardcore PSO vets, it might had had a chance.

Either way, this is one awesome thread. And I for one am very happy about it.

I'm not upset at all. I dont know what your beef is. It is a VERY helpful post, and it SHOULD be stickied. Why would I be against or jealous of somebody elses post getting stickied? That's just rediculous, it's only a forum. Grow up, child.

I was simply laughing bc it hadnt been up long before it was stickied. And truly, to add to what I said before, I dont really care that much if MINE is stickied or not. If the mods dont think it is important enough then that is fine with me.

[lostcrow122]

this depresses me so much, it'll take 8 times longer to get an expert class to 10 then a normal class. Well, not that long, considering you'll be powered up somewhat significantly...at a small cost. But still...8000...I can't help but shudder under such a large number.

But, it would be nice to have something not everyone will max out in a few weeks. Maybe. So you can actually be proud of being rank 10.

[Imagiomg]

This is obviously a useful and awesome post, lemme say that.
One puny thing though - can fortetechers really get level 30 techs/30 bullets? It's only 30techs/10bullets right?
If I'm wrong about that I'd be overjoyed to have someone correct me, otherwise you might wanna make a tiny edit.
Again, nice post to all who have contributed!

[ForteMP3]

Dumb question, but are these bonuses retroactive?

IE, if I'm Character Level 30 and then become a Lv10 Hunter, do the Lv10 stat bonuses apply only to further level ups, or my stats overall?

[Serra]

Overall.

[Odins Hammer]

8000 points!?!?!?


argrghhh


just grinding again and agiin to get to 50 sucks. sheesh.

love the game, but someone has to have a concept where you don thave to go through 8 areas 1000 times t be a powerful caharacter- sheesh

-ed

[Xaine777]

VERY nice job! Glad you posted it, doesn't seem to be much info on the actual stats yet.

[Paramedic]

"Uh oh!
We can not find the requested file."

Yup, awesome thread.

[Black_Tiger]

I don't know if these lists were based on the JP versions or if some jobs/races differ, but on Xbox360 I kept track of the mission points I earned as a Human level 1 Fighgunner and at 148 MP I was dead at the center of the exp/level bar, which would make my level 2 at 300 MP (not 400).

[Synvaren]

I don't know if these lists were based on the JP versions or if some jobs/races differ, but on Xbox360 I kept track of the mission points I earned as a Human level 1 Fighgunner and at 148 MP I was dead at the center of the exp/level bar, which would make my level 2 at 300 MP (not 400). xp bar lies

[Yokho]

Hey everyone, ive played PSO for i dont know how long, and im really looking forward to PSU (even with all the critics) and i've been browsing info on the expert classes but..... except for stats, there ain't much to chew on!

Can anyone pull off a small description for all the classes? What are they good at, whats their role, what are their strong/weak points... All you can think off ^^

That would be very appreciated, i can see that you have to plan early to have the necessary requirements for each expert class, so i'd like to know before i start what will be my goal!

Thanks!

[Shiryuu]

Can anyone pull off a small description for all the classes? What are they good at, whats their role, what are their strong/weak points... All you can think off ^^

Not mine, but it will do:
http://psupedia.info/index.php?title=Types

[Yokho]

Thanks! Thats great ^^

[Deiser]

I just recently started this game as a human, and am rank 2 in Hunter. I was thinking about aiming to be a Protranser, since they seem to be an offensive jack-of-all-trades in weapons and stats, plus they can effectively use traps. What are your opinions on the class?

[DiasFlac]

I just recently started this game as a human, and am rank 2 in Hunter. I was thinking about aiming to be a Protranser, since they seem to be an offensive jack-of-all-trades in weapons and stats, plus they can effectively use traps. What are your opinions on the class?

Get to Pro lv 6 and your Gold Dude!!

Its a fun job I believe your enjoy it. :)

[Deiser]

Oh damn it, 1 point from level 3 >.<

[Lavie]

let me know if this was mentioned, but Forte classes get a PP reduction on their specialty supposedly(fighter:skills techer:techs gunner:bullets) and imo that makes up fer being weaker stat wise fer awhile

[xXxPHETTYxXx]

let me know if this was mentioned, but Forte classes get a PP reduction on their specialty supposedly(fighter:skills techer:techs gunner:bullets) and imo that makes up fer being weaker stat wise fer awhile
Forte classes do have reduced Photon Arts. For example most beginning Skills for Fortefighter drop from 18 to 14(Spear, Twin Saber, Twin Daggers, etc). But around Level 3 Forte classes usually start catching up to beginning Jobs, although some meaningless stats to a certain job never recover.

[traps]

like Yokho I carry the same experience and familiarity with PSO and I'm making my conversion over to PSU.

Ive looked over all the charts on the expert classes but I still don't understand how they work.

Do you receive bonuses in becoming an expert class?

I like to use "force" heh. So for my expert class I would chose fortetecher?

Are expert classes real names?For example instead of being called a Hunter, Ranger, or Force would you be considered one of the following expert classes? (If you where to check your Status would it say the expert class name)

[symphonia]

This should e a sticky/anouncment/READ OR DIE/YOU HAVE TO KNOW THIS OR YOU WILL KNOW NOTHING!!

[Pikachief]

speaking of expert classes....

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://psu.fei-yen.jp/wiki/html/TOP.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=3&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dpsu%2Bwiki%26num%3D50%26hl%3Den%26new window%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG

says thats classes are going from 10-20 in the japanese's next update! :D

[Miraglyth]

speaking of breaking these boards...

http://www.tinyurl.com/

says thats pages widthes are going from looooong to short when u use dis! :D

[Tamashi]

Soooo won't this have to be overhauled for the expansion?

[Mujestu]

*claps* Good job

[-=+Starrz+=-]

For FIGUNNER, GUNTECHER, and WARTECHER go here.
http://xs209.xs.to/xs209/06474/AdvType1.JPG

For FORTEFIGHTER, FORTEGUNNER, FORTECHER, and PROTRANSER, go here.
http://xs309.xs.to/xs309/06474/AdvTypes2.JPG


Those links don't work. :|

[Dark-pie]

Soooo won't this have to be overhauled for the expansion?

[Ichigo04291982]

The uploaded photo for the Wartecher stats is broken Genesiser.

[Foxy Nicole]

Nice guide!

[S-T-H]

Actually I think I'm going to unsticky this. The OP hasn't updated since a month after the game's release here and the classes weren't even out on our side yet (only in Japan). There have been many rebalances since then as well as the addition of the Acro classes. Until there is a rewrite or someone does a new guide, there is a great deal of info at this link:

http://psupedia.info/Types

I think the original point of this topic was as a preview for the expert classes based of the original release of them in Japan, but obviously things have changed since then and it's quite outdated.

[Teitan]

Diagram showing level 20 stat multipliers for all expert and master types:
http://teitan.inchoativum.net/aoi_level20_stats_new.png