The Suffering (EGM Review) Ho-Hum scores.........

[shadow_250]

Heres a review for the suffering from my EGM i got today, not what i was expecting but i will still probably pick up the game for xbox......

Paul: Abbot State Penitentiary's executed convicts are staging a good ol' haunted prison riot- theyre eviscerating guards, inmates, and any other lolly gaggers on the premises. As the violent and laconic Torque, you slay your way out of prison, shooting demons and transforming into an abomination yourself now and then, if the mood strikes.
With layers of gore and lots of creepy sound effecys, The Suffering creates an unrelentingly grim playground for bloody gun battles. The guns themselves are fun to weild: effective, accurate, and powerful. Each monster is based on a metchod of capitol punishment--a gimmick, sure, but a very well-done gimmick, thanks to interesting character designs and convincing animation.
But whats with the paper-thin story? Torgue was convicted of murdering his ex-wife and two kids, but he cant remember is he did it. Thats it. The monster tranformation thing is also hokey as hell, but for those of you who dont care about whys and wherefores---if you just want to blast your way through some viscera, heres your game.


Bryan: Were i a member of The Sufferings parole board, I'd reccomend a few more months of state-sponsored rehabilitation. While the haunted penitentiary setting and Sam Winstons (The Thing, Predator) creature creations are satisfying freaky, this horror show has a few key shortcomings: The story loses steam about two-thirds of the way through; solving puzzles, which are few and far between, requires litte brainpower; and its far too easy to survive your sentence with so much free ammo and health lying around.


XBN--Greg O: This haunted prison epic doesnt drop the soap in the proverbial shower; it merely fumbles it and deftly recovers. A standard run-n-gun first- and third-person shooter, The Suffering drapes itself in gore and foul language, but there's hardly a sense that any of it means anything. As hrror, the best the game can do is throw up grosesqueries in wave after wave. As an adventure, it demands switch pulling and crate shoving barely worthy of a haunted taco stand. It does, however, provide a modicum of challenge and hold enough intrigue to win it a well deserved stay of execution.


The Verdicts:

Paul: 6.5
Bryan: 6.0
Greg O.: 6.5

[MuzzyX]

Guess this will be off of xteboys list. :P

[Nuckles87]

lol, IGN gave it an 8.5.

[zeronumber]

Here's an idea, and it's just a thought...
How about...I dunno, Playing the game?

6.0 isn't too bad anyway, if it got under that, then I'd might avoid it...

[shadow_250]

Here's an idea, and it's just a thought...
How about...I dunno, Playing the game?

6.0 isn't too bad anyway, if it got under that, then I'd might avoid it...

ya, thats what i said i have gc an xbox an have been planning to get it for a while, i played OXM demo an thought it was pretty fun....

[zeronumber]

Here's an idea, and it's just a thought...
How about...I dunno, Playing the game?

6.0 isn't too bad anyway, if it got under that, then I'd might avoid it...

ya, thats what i said i have gc an xbox an have been planning to get it for a while, i played OXM demo an thought it was pretty fun....

Oxm? which issue? I might just pick it up...

[shadow_250]

Here's an idea, and it's just a thought...
How about...I dunno, Playing the game?

6.0 isn't too bad anyway, if it got under that, then I'd might avoid it...

ya, thats what i said i have gc an xbox an have been planning to get it for a while, i played OXM demo an thought it was pretty fun....

Oxm? which issue? I might just pick it up...

duno, il have 2 ask my friend, hes the one who loaned me the disk.....

[special agent]

Sorry but 6.0 IS bad. We can wonder here because IGN give a higher score. Either way I agree that you should play the game before judging. But great games rarely get low scores like that.

I'm waiting for RE4 and Silent Hill 4 anyway...and with scores like that I wonder if it's such a bad thing that the Suffering missed the GameCube. 8)

[zeronumber]

Sorry but 6.0 IS bad. We can wonder here because IGN give a higher score. Either way I agree that you should play the game before judging. But great games rarely get low scores like that.

I'm waiting for RE4 and Silent Hill 4 anyway...and with scores like that I wonder if it's such a bad thing that the Suffering missed the GameCube. 8)

How is 6.0 bad?
Espesially when it's 6.0 out of 10?

But I guess if a game doesn't get a 9.9 it must not be any good... :roll:

[gaunletlegends]

Sorry but 6.0 IS bad. We can wonder here because IGN give a higher score. Either way I agree that you should play the game before judging. But great games rarely get low scores like that.

I'm waiting for RE4 and Silent Hill 4 anyway...and with scores like that I wonder if it's such a bad thing that the Suffering missed the GameCube. 8)

Gamespot also gave it a good score.

[zeronumber]

Sorry but 6.0 IS bad. We can wonder here because IGN give a higher score. Either way I agree that you should play the game before judging. But great games rarely get low scores like that.

I'm waiting for RE4 and Silent Hill 4 anyway...and with scores like that I wonder if it's such a bad thing that the Suffering missed the GameCube. 8)

Gamespot also gave it a good score.

Egm gives wacky stuff, They also gave sonic heroes a 6.0 by one of their reviewers, well, that's one I'll tend to agree with.

Sonic adventure 2 battle got a 6.0 by egm...
Was that a bad game? No...

It's all about oppinion...

The only way It would be bad is if it got a 5.0 and lower...
That kind of scores are resereved for games with some time of horrible deterence...

[zeronumber]

Hey guanlet, can you do me a solid?
Can you post up all the reviews and closing comment of the suffering?

[special agent]

I don't read EGM for a long time, I don't know if they are too harsh with scores... Still any games I played that get a 6.0 are bad... Of course there is always exceptions. But Bloodrayne got a 7.8 from IGN and I believe it should be rated lower.

But I agree 100% with Zeronumber...you should play the game before judging. :lol:

[shadow_250]

ya an on double dash they gave it gold (9.5,9.5,10 i THINK) and on ign what they give it? a 7 or somthing

[zeronumber]

ya an on double dash they gave it gold (9.5,9.5,10 i THINK) and on ign what they give it? a 7 or somthing

7.9...
I think it should have gotten lower, I don't know what game egm was playing when they gave it those scores...

that's why I don't like egm....They are wacky....

[Nyceane]

reviews really dont mean anything to nintendo and sega..... but it means alot for any 3rd party games.

if you realize, sega fans are buying sega fans no matter how low the score is, same goes with nintendo fans. btw, mario kart is one of the game that brings the most fun into your world, and only receives a 7.9? reviewer is on crack sometimes, same goes with sonic heroes...

[Nuckles87]

ya an on double dash they gave it gold (9.5,9.5,10 i THINK) and on ign what they give it? a 7 or somthing

7.9...
I think it should have gotten lower, I don't know what game egm was playing when they gave it those scores...

that's why I don't like egm....They are wacky....


Yeah, I got bored with MKDD pretty damn quick. It didn't feel any different from the one I played on GBA...

[zeronumber]

reviews really dont mean anything to nintendo and sega..... but it means alot for any 3rd party games.

if you realize, sega fans are buying sega fans no matter how low the score is, same goes with nintendo fans. btw, mario kart is one of the game that brings the most fun into your world, and only receives a 7.9? reviewer is on crack sometimes, same goes with sonic heroes...

No, some times I think some reviewers give some games too high of a score...

Mario kart dd wasn't anything special...
I still think Mario Kart 64 was a much better game overall...
Mario Kart DD, in a term...is really a rehash.
The whole game basically lacks any real imagination...

I mean, dk's board, bowsers castle, and rainbow road have all been a lot better in mario kart 64, plus some boards just totally have no imagination once so ever....
Like baby park for example, it's a loop!!!
Lugi's curcuit was a lot cooler, now they shorten the track....

Plus, what was up with the graphics on that game?
Super Mario sunshine was basically perfection in mario graphics, so why on earth did a game that was developed a year and ahalf later, look dumbed down? Not to mention there were jaggies? Why? gcn has anti alising, and there was still to much of an alising problem to correct it all...

The multiplayer modes were also pretty bland, nothing cool until you unlock tilt a kart and lugi's mansion, and even then, it's still isn't as insane as the n64 boards.

And I don't know what reviewers were thinking when they reviewed sonic hereos...

To tell you the truth, Sonic heroes shouldn't have gotten any higher then a 6.0, and the playstion 2 and x-box should have gotten lower because they were even more glitchy the gamecube version.

And alot of times, egm shows basically no love for 3rd party games, the only decent ratings you see by egm is towards japanese games, when ever it comes down to american companies like Atari, Acclaim, and Midway, they are all usually lower....

[special agent]

when ever it comes down to american companies like Atari, Acclaim, and Midway, they are all usually lower....



Probably because they deserve it... :lol:

[zeronumber]

when ever it comes down to american companies like Atari, Acclaim, and Midway, they are all usually lower....



Probably because they deserve it... :lol:

Not really...
The only people I trust are ign and gamespot...
I don't bother to read gaming magazines, they are unreliable for the most part...

Egm Plays too much into hype, and first party dev games...
Gamepro is basically useless and unimformative to most major glitches found in games today...
Plus you have magazines such as oxm, psm, and nintendo power, which are obviously biased.

[Nyceane]

reviews really dont mean anything to nintendo and sega..... but it means alot for any 3rd party games.

if you realize, sega fans are buying sega fans no matter how low the score is, same goes with nintendo fans. btw, mario kart is one of the game that brings the most fun into your world, and only receives a 7.9? reviewer is on crack sometimes, same goes with sonic heroes...

No, some times I think some reviewers give some games too high of a score...

Mario kart dd wasn't anything special...
I still think Mario Kart 64 was a much better game overall...
Mario Kart DD, in a term...is really a rehash.
The whole game basically lacks any real imagination...

I mean, dk's board, bowsers castle, and rainbow road have all been a lot better in mario kart 64, plus some boards just totally have no imagination once so ever....
Like baby park for example, it's a loop!!!
Lugi's curcuit was a lot cooler, now they shorten the track....

Plus, what was up with the graphics on that game?
Super Mario sunshine was basically perfection in mario graphics, so why on earth did a game that was developed a year and ahalf later, look dumbed down? Not to mention there were jaggies? Why? gcn has anti alising, and there was still to much of an alising problem to correct it all...

The multiplayer modes were also pretty bland, nothing cool until you unlock tilt a kart and lugi's mansion, and even then, it's still isn't as insane as the n64 boards.

And I don't know what reviewers were thinking when they reviewed sonic hereos...

To tell you the truth, Sonic heroes shouldn't have gotten any higher then a 6.0, and the playstion 2 and x-box should have gotten lower because they were even more glitchy the gamecube version.

And alot of times, egm shows basically no love for 3rd party games, the only decent ratings you see by egm is towards japanese games, when ever it comes down to american companies like Atari, Acclaim, and Midway, they are all usually lower....

mario kart 64 only got 6.4 i think... dude, watch famitsu's score, its much better than american gamespot scores. look at shinobi and sonic adventures you will see. american's score are specifically towards sony's game, PS2 games gets higher scores than other 2 systems with same quality of game, just look at final fantasy XI, it receives a 8.0 on PC and 8.8 on PS2, the game is exactly the same, read the review, the reviewer is retarded... EGM does give some bias score too, when one reviewer dont like the game, they cut it down to low score, they never think about if other people is going to like the game or not when they reviewed it. thing i love about double dash is playing with 2 people, since if your girlfriend is not good at driving =) partnering is really fun

[gaunletlegends]

Hey guanlet, can you do me a solid?
Can you post up all the reviews and closing comment of the suffering?
Just go to www.metacritic.com

That's where I get them from.

[zeronumber]

Ok, here is the link http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox/suffering/

For the most part, this game is great...

Computer Games - Now Playing
Multiple endings, strategy behind weapons, smooth gameplay, and a terrifying experience make The Suffering one of the biggest surprises of the year. [Apr 2004, p.9]

Into Liquid Sky
The game just hooks you from the beginning and never lets go.

Console Gold
Much like "Undying," this game will probably be best remembered for its audio…for that alone it deserves kudos. Anything that can freak me out like this game gets my vote of confidence.

GameZone
To top things off, you can switch from third-person to first-person view whenever you want. You’ll swear you’re playing two different games depending on the view.

Deeko
The actual pacing of the game may be a mixed bag, but one thing is always consistent - fear. In the end, The Suffering is a very good, albeit short, game that is as impressive as it is fun.

IGN
The action is intense, the creatures are actually creepy, and the story does not shy away from truly macabre elements. One cannot say enough about the horrific world that's been created here.

Gamer's Hell
The idea of your alter ego, if you can call it that, could’ve been expanded further, and the selection of monsters could’ve been richer.

Next Level Gaming
But the other half of Torque's persona are the things he sees, the visions he has, the carnage he dreams about. This is what got me...Trust me, it's un-nerving.

Team Xbox
While The Suffering hits a bulls eye in almost every cinematic category, it misses the mark in a few of the areas which make a good game, namely unique gameplay and high resolution graphics.

GameReviewer
It's the quiet moments that scare the most. The horrors that the monsters bring can at least be fought, but the silence... it is... unstoppable. It cuts through your psyche like a knife through flesh, fueling your hallucinations and driving up your insanity.

Games Domain
Incorporates harsh violence, language, and imagery into a much darker, nastier action/horror title that takes its subject matter and protagonist seriously for a change...The Suffering offers a good mix of the violent, the visceral, and the visionary.

Maxim Online
Told in fragments along the way, the story resolves differently, depending on whether you torture and kill other humans or help them survive. Either way, the eerie atmosphere will scare you straighter than an "Oz" box set.

Stuff
Hollywood creature designer Stan Winston lends his psychotic imagination to all of the monstrosities that pop up in the game. Instead of coming from obvious spawning points, creatures emerge from nearly any surface. The technique effectively adds dread to normally benign environments we haven’t experienced since our days in the Boy Scouts.

GameSpot
The end result is a much more action-packed experience that might be a little too straightforward in spots, but it does make for a solid action game.

GameSpy
It's offensive, psyche-damaging, brutal, makes no sense, and is unforgiving and violent. And damn good fun.

Play Magazine
The game can be thrilling, poorly executed, compelling, expertly crafted and everything in between. [Apr 2004, p.54]

Playboy
The lethal-injection-wielding beastie and other gruesome monsters were designed by movie F/X guru Stan Winston. Luckily, you can transform into a hulking beast when the prison yard gets too crowded. Dead man morphing! [Feb 2004, p.32]

[MuzzyX]

playboy?

[zeronumber]

playboy?

Believe it or not, they do more then show naked ladies...Not that I would know too much about that.... :wink:

[Nuckles87]

looks like a lot of people like Suffering..

[Camron Kosciozko]

Sorry but 6.0 IS bad. We can wonder here because IGN give a higher score. Either way I agree that you should play the game before judging. But great games rarely get low scores like that.

I'm waiting for RE4 and Silent Hill 4 anyway...and with scores like that I wonder if it's such a bad thing that the Suffering missed the GameCube. 8)

I dont know how being Gamecube doesnt have Silent Hill 4 comming to it.

Anyway some1 was asking which oxm it was. Its on the February issue with Full Spectrum Warrior on the cover. Im probably gonna play this and breakdown tomorrow and leave feedback. I see the commercial for the game alot but i wont kno till i play for myself.

[special agent]

I dont know how being Gamecube doesnt have Silent Hill 4 comming to it.



Silent Hill 4 is coming to PC, just like Silent Hill 2 and 3

[uhhsam]

playboy?

Believe it or not, they do more then show naked ladies...Not that I would know too much about that.... :wink:

they hardly even show naked ladies. they show heavily airbrushed naked ladies. it's about as real as a girl wearing a t-shirt with boobs painted on them.

anyway, i don't see xteboy coming within 10 feet of this topic. with the way he puts cube games in a negative light for scoring .1 less than other platforms, he knows he wouldn't have much credibility if he tried to defend a games review score

[MuzzyX]

playboy?

Believe it or not, they do more then show naked ladies...Not that I would know too much about that.... :wink:
heh

[blackfaded]

playboy?

LMFAO!!!

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