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Ironfox
03-24-2007, 10:30 PM
Alright,
so you decided to try out this bizarre class, you have just switched to Protranser and you discover your stats make you as threating as a 5lb puppy, and just as frail. You see your stats, Your in complete shock, Well no worrys I have some suggestions on making life a little easier.

:arrow: Suggestion #1: Character levels,
I highly suggest avoiding this class until you are level 45+ unless you have friends willing to help you out. Your prolly asking yourself why 45!? well the main reason for this is you can hit some of the S missions and S2 Lab so you can get out of the red headed stepchild phase of protranser ASAP the quicker you get to PT 5 the better.

I waited until my cast was level 60 before I even attempted, A bit overkill but im glad I waited because I was still a gimped, even at that level. If you wanna try it earlier than 45 It's fine just make sure you got plenty of backup.

:arrow: Suggestion #2: Bows,
Bows are great for new Transers you have an EXTREMELY FRAIL body when you begin this journey into this class (distance is your friend), Bows have wonderful stats Especially the Alteric, but a good rule of thumb is take the highest atp bow possible and continue improving them as your ATA Improves, This is one of the only ways to do decent damage in your first couple levels into Transer.


:arrow: Suggestion #3: Avoid Meleeing,
You are Not Sparticus, Sephiroth, or The Incredible Hulk! If you melee and you get hit by anything chances are you are going to see it take a HUGE chunk out of your health. Avoid mobs of monsters like Varhras, Things that attack in groups and will combo kill you in less then a few seconds.
This changes later on when you have quite a few Protranser levels under your belt!

:arrow: Suggestion #4: Rising Strike and Traps,
You will find alot of monsters like to run from your traps, most enemies that tend to run can be knocked over. Rising strikes first combo does a fairly good job of cow tipping to give you plenty of time to setup your trap while they are trying to recover from falling. Good way to make the most out of Precious traps.

:arrow: Suggestion #5: Lower Hp and Healing Items,
Monomates are useful again atleast for now, may save some money to avoid the Trimates for awhile and stick with Monomates and Dimates.

:arrow: Suggestion #6: Areas for soloing,
Valley of Carnage C rank, Train C rank, Hive C rank, and Holy grounds B rank are fairly easy and have great Mission Point rewards.

Well, thats what comes to the top of my head if anyone has suggestions or comments on this feel free to PM me/Post here.

:arrow: Suggestion #7 Level your Photon arts,
It's best to focus on your Protranser weapon palette even before you are a Protranser. As a Hunter focus on Knuckles, Spears, and Sabers. When you are earning your Ranger levels try to stick to Shotguns, and Handguns, And of course as a Force Focus on Your Bows!!!

Focus on leveling up your arts ASAP! You need the Increased atp % and of course the Increased Elemental Bonuses. This is extremely Important especially if your going to be a Protranser for the long haul.

:arrow: Suggestion #8 Grind your Weapons,
Grinding is risky business but when rocking low level Protranser Stats you can use every little bit help you can in the damage department.

Contributers (Thanks for making this possible)
- Lifeform
- Fexus
- Inunabe
- Tarvos
- X Launcher
- disco22
- SpectreT65

Well we as a Protranser Community seem to get asked for low level advice about our very difficult Class quite often. Anyone who contributes worthwhile information will get due credit, and most of all the newbies of this class will greatly appreciate it. I want to hear quite a few experiances from the various races that survived this class and what helped you threw it.

Thanks for your time! :D
-Ironfox

Inunabe
03-24-2007, 11:13 PM
>.< This was actually pretty helpful. Specially the part about Rising Strike and using the traps.

If possible though could we get some more advice on traps? When to use them, when not to use them, the most efficient way of using them. I have the tendency to waste alot of traps during some runs. As much as I like using em it's kinda not cool to buy every single trap again after I've used almost all of them lol

Tarvos
03-25-2007, 07:22 AM
That stuff about the level is totaly right, I hit pt at lvl 29 and i wanted to kill myself

but i love melee fighing and aslong as you arn't stubid about it a pt can melee if say the bow runs out me and my longsword are best buddies

Lifeform
03-25-2007, 07:50 AM
When I hit protranser at 32 or so i was doing holy grounds b for mp. It did go ok i used saber/pistol mostly and bow for the gohman. There are b ranks you can do ok with at lower lvls I guess was my point.

Fexus
03-25-2007, 07:56 AM
I came to find out that some traps dont work too well on some larger enemies. Although, most normal (non G) traps will work on everything accept bosses. Thats why, despite everyone wanting me to use virus G traps, i keep a stock of normal virus traps for the bigger slow enemies to save money. If youre just starting out as a protranser, i dont reccomend wasting all your money on G traps, instead familiarize yourself with the normal traps and enemy patters. usually i use either virus, fire or poison traps for larger enemies, and keep only one full stock of virus G for situations where i can catch 3 or more large enemies in one go. I see people running around with all G traps, and then i wonder how much money they have... because i think i went protranser around level 30 range, and i know for a fact that still didnt have money to waste on G traps.

Like states earlier, bows are beautiful. I maxed out 2 bullets before i hit lvl 10, and it would have been more if i didnt buy a lazer cannon or grenade launcher. Also, if you can master the regular use of the spear, it because very helpful with the Dus Daggas PA, especially on larger enemies with 2 or more hit spots.

Ironfox
03-25-2007, 09:29 AM
>.< This was actually pretty helpful. Specially the part about Rising Strike and using the traps.

If possible though could we get some more advice on traps? When to use them, when not to use them, the most efficient way of using them. I have the tendency to waste alot of traps during some runs. As much as I like using em it's kinda not cool to buy every single trap again after I've used almost all of them lol
A very good point, I guess I could come up with little bit of advice on the some basic trap usage.


That stuff about the level is totaly right, I hit pt at lvl 29 and i wanted to kill myself

but i love melee fighing and aslong as you arn't stubid about it a pt can melee if say the bow runs out me and my longsword are best buddies

Yeah sabers work great, and ya I did little meleeing myself even at a low level but I dunno if i would reccomend it to others. It can be done though. ^_^


When I hit protranser at 32 or so i was doing holy grounds b for mp. It did go ok i used saber/pistol mostly and bow for the gohman. There are b ranks you can do ok with at lower lvls I guess was my point.

Yeah Thats actually an good point putting down easy areas, with semi decent MP rewards. I took advantage of VoC alot when I couldn't find a party. If I remmber right Holy grounds was pretty damn good as well.

I came to find out that some traps dont work too well on some larger enemies. Although, most normal (non G) traps will work on everything accept bosses. Thats why, despite everyone wanting me to use virus G traps, i keep a stock of normal virus traps for the bigger slow enemies to save money. If youre just starting out as a protranser, i dont reccomend wasting all your money on G traps, instead familiarize yourself with the normal traps and enemy patters. usually i use either virus, fire or poison traps for larger enemies, and keep only one full stock of virus G for situations where i can catch 3 or more large enemies in one go. I see people running around with all G traps, and then i wonder how much money they have... because i think i went protranser around level 30 range, and i know for a fact that still didnt have money to waste on G traps.

Like states earlier, bows are beautiful. I maxed out 2 bullets before i hit lvl 10, and it would have been more if i didnt buy a lazer cannon or grenade launcher. Also, if you can master the regular use of the spear, it because very helpful with the Dus Daggas PA, especially on larger enemies with 2 or more hit spots. Yeah, that can save alot of money on traps ^_^ a very good point! :wink: Will defintely be helpful to people even if they are tight on cash. :D

Very, Very good posts! Keep them coming!

X Launcher
03-25-2007, 03:36 PM
I have issues with suggestion 3. If you're not going to melee and let that lovely 30 skill cap collect dust, you may as well have been a fortegunner. The key here is to carry around a set of elemental armor (the B ranks from the shop do fine) and swap it as necessary. It's a tad exhausting in some levels, but hey, no one picked this job thinking it'd be easy.

Ironfox
03-25-2007, 03:40 PM
I have issues with suggestion 3. If you're not going to melee and let that lovely 30 skill cap collect dust, you may as well have been a fortegunner. The key here is to carry around a set of elemental armor (the B ranks from the shop do fine) and swap it as necessary. It's a tad exhausting in some levels, but hey, no one picked this job thinking it'd be easy. The thing is this is for low level protransers rocking less HP & Def than a fortecher. Of course once they progress to around PT 5 this suggestion doesn't really apply to them.

Ironfox
03-27-2007, 11:25 AM
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disco22
03-27-2007, 11:50 AM
my best advice to low level protransers is grind up bows and get all your shots up to 21. It takes a while but when you are done you will be on a high enough level to melee competently, you can status effect anything, and you can also match up strong elements on anything. I used compadri's +8 until i ground 4 alterics to +6.


P.S. alteric + 10 is your best friend

Ironfox
03-27-2007, 02:59 PM
Good posts, Updated.

wasabikun
03-29-2007, 06:31 AM
Very nice. I am always looking for ways to improve my fighting as a PT. I have since stored all of my Trimates because they are just an overkill for my healing.

topabcat
04-06-2007, 03:41 PM
I was finally able to get logged in and I wanted to thank you for the information. You helped me greatly.

I just switched my human male to protranser and like I suspected most of the things I could use need ATA, ATP or DFP that this character won't have for a number of levels.

Where did you grind out your levels from 1 to 5 like you suggested? I have a good assortment of Ageha-senba armors for the various elements and a good assortment of weapons either of B or C that I can use, and there is no problem of having the meseta to buy and use traps.

Ironfox
04-06-2007, 06:11 PM
I was finally able to get logged in and I wanted to thank you for the information. You helped me greatly.

I just switched my human male to protranser and like I suspected most of the things I could use need ATA, ATP or DFP that this character won't have for a number of levels.

Where did you grind out your levels from 1 to 5 like you suggested? I have a good assortment of Ageha-senba armors for the various elements and a good assortment of weapons either of B or C that I can use, and there is no problem of having the meseta to buy and use traps.
I'm glad this Info helped ya out! ^_^

My friends helped me with some Lab R. S Rank and lots of Bruce's Dungeon B & A runs. Being level 60 when I turned Protranser was quite a blessing so I could hit the higher MP areas. Should be even easier now with the new missions.

topabcat
04-07-2007, 02:26 AM
That makes sense. I don't think I can do Bruce anymore. Also my core group of friends are either away or quit the game. But, you are right and you do need a group to game with. I have not had any trouble in random parties and they can see that I come prepared with good protection and that I use traps often.

I guess I will have to do the grind until higher :) levels. The missions now sure beat endless Dragon runs like in the past, before Moatoob, A rank weapons, Bruce, or Defense runs.

SpectreT65
04-07-2007, 11:17 PM
Hive C? I dunno, I remember getting my entire butt handed to me as a beefy Hunter back in the day in there. With Busterline that had a 50% Dark Photon, and a nifty Pallasch with 12% Light. With the craptastic armor I've got now, Train Rescue C is approaching the level of a challenge.

But there is a certain fun in playing Taxi Cab, and every once in a while, I'll get invited to a Lab run. So Soloing Train Rescue is another option - the meseta's okay,and the mission points are the same as De Ragan with a pushover boss.

topabcat
04-09-2007, 12:38 PM
For Hive C I think you have a great armor for the dark attacks. Foie from the floating casters is what ruins my day there, and I now wear a fire armor when going though. The rest of the guys there are usually slow so being hit often wasn't too much of a problem. I think my main issue is NPCs who like to take damage and heal 2 minutes after they are KOed.

Here is what I have been doing.

Train C. Been using 6 C bows only and just leveled my dark bullet to 21 and now I am switching to fire level 19 I think and ice.

I tried Lab B and it took 45 minutes with seeing a lot of zeros to finally make it though for 8 MP. Won't be doing that again until I am level 55 and maybe have some support from others. About 30 percent of the time I was hitting zeros and my damage was not very good for striking weapons. I also put away the shotguns for a later level doing a few points each blast. Maybe enough to start some kind of status effect but that is about it.

Moonlight Beast C. 15MP and not too bad being there are pleny of places to sit back and fire. I have also am using this to level my bow shots. On Sunday I got the rare map :D and got 2 easter eggs and a feather from the King Rappies. I thought the Olgohms at first looked kind of short from a distance. :) Also to save time I have been using the attack and accuracy up stuff you can buy and 100 meseta traps for the Kamatozes and Tenghogs. (Usually just take out the Tenghogs with my bow instead for the practice being they tend to be slow and give you a lot of warning if they are going to use an attack.)

Last night and thankfully there was a party running Crimson Beast A that didn't mind me being there. (Need to be level 30 for A runs) I was about the lowest level player in the party at level 35-36 but with a bow and the right armor and knowing the level it wasn't too bad. Thankfully I didn't lose a scape. With a bow I could just stand back and fight, with using a trap on the Jarbas or other big critters once in a while. The big lightning guys almost KOed me a couple of times in one hit as well as the big Gol Dova?.

Sugandya
04-19-2007, 02:25 PM
I think this should be stickied.

Seeker84
04-19-2007, 03:18 PM
I think this should be stickied.

Evolution
04-19-2007, 09:21 PM
This is actually a really informative thread, I recently started a female human in the hopes of making her into a protranser, shes a human female thats level 20 right now, my friends who are higher level are helping me level up the primary classes with crimson beast C, and now that I hit 20 they're running through it with me on B (yay 29MP). I figure if I keep playing with my friends and keep going B runs I shouldn't have a problem being a low level transer.

Ironfox
06-18-2007, 09:07 PM
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whitexdragon
06-26-2007, 10:37 PM
i melee all the way with pt in fb... and was pretty successful...didnt die to much...and thank god there was no negatives in deaths during it now iam lvl 7 pt =].....an i LOVE traps...

danny o
07-11-2007, 10:38 AM
Excellent guide! Short but it gets right to the point. I made a lil' CAST a few weeks ago and intend to bring her up as a PT, but I will going for it as soon I get her Type levels to 5, regardless of the level. I have some buddies that will prolly be allow my feeble :):):) tag along on the "Secret Mission." Cuz S rank on C difficulty means 100 mp!

I will be the designated button hitter, of course.

Kanee
07-11-2007, 10:57 AM
1. Don't melee as a low level protranser.
2. Don't be a low level protranser.

I just summarized the whole mass.