Which alternate character do you wish to play as: Tails or Knuckles ?

[Kamagawa]

Knuckles for me.

[ElKameleon]

Knuckles would be sweet.

[ragrappy99]

Knuckles all the way. Will he get a gay homing attack as well?

[sonicchao]

Both of them.

[SuperLightning]

I Like to Play as tails. and since SOnic 4 has no Tails or knuckles this is the wrong forum right? o.o

[UpTheIrons666]

On the official website, if you go under featured characters, there is another locked spot next to sonic. I found that interesting because they said only Sonic would be playable. If I had to choose, though, it'd be Knucles. Playing as Tails, at least in Sonic 2, wasn't very different

[~Witchy Rouge~]

I wish to play as Mama Luigi. He seems to be the best choice.

[SuperLightning]

On the official website, if you go under featured characters, there is another locked spot next to sonic. I found that interesting because they said only Sonic would be playable. If I had to choose, though, it'd be Knucles. Playing as Tails, at least in Sonic 2, wasn't very different

Isnt that Eggman?

[UpTheIrons666]

Isnt that Eggman?

Do we know if it's Eggman? I wouldn't doubt it; That was my original thought.

[sonicchao]

I wish to play as Mama Luigi. He seems to be the best choice.

Or Weegee :3

[o T a iIi lL sS]

Tails, he's Sonic's sidekick. He deserves the spot in the game.

Although both of them would be fine, also.

[SuperLightning]

Or Weegee :3

Funny i just Drew a comic about weegee...

Anyway yeah The spot next to Sonic is Robotnik.

[FlameTheFox]

I'd choose Tails. Not only because he is my favorite Sonic char, but because he can fly. Flying ftw.

First forum post, yay :P

[The Ultimate sonic fan]

Tails FTW!

[L.J.F.B]

Hymm i like both ....but ill say Tails.

[PSI Earth]

Tails for the win.

[SpaceKrunkSamurai]

I would choose Knuckles over tails any day of the week.

[Spin-Slash]

Both would be cool, but I think SEGA already indicated Sonic's going solo on this adventure.

If I had to choose between the two, though, then I'd pick Knuckles. Tails is great and he really should get back on the field, but I'd love the prospect of being able to play an alternate adventure as Knuckles. M.E. biyatches.

[GrandMasterGalvatron]

None of them. They're both kinda whack now.

In fact, I'd take AMY over those chumps. Unless they go Super.

[Siili]

Tails was kind of a hax character in Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Instead of dealing with obstacles and enemies you could fly over them. As such I don't really want to play as him, but in my opinion, if this game is going to be Sonic 4, they should have tails following you around by default like he was in Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

Knuckles from Sonic & Knuckles would be a nice alternate playable character, but they have said they won't have alternate playable characters and it might not make plot sense to have him in the game anyway.

[Nspain]

knuckles hopefully!

[Promotion]

Or Weegee :3

That's Mama Luigi to you, sonicchao. *Wheeze*

[Alex2beta]

Kncukles, he can glide, he can climb, he can spindash, what else cant he do? I mean that would be awsome to play as knuckles!

[WinterSnowblind]

On the official website, if you go under featured characters, there is another locked spot next to sonic. I found that interesting because they said only Sonic would be playable. If I had to choose, though, it'd be Knucles. Playing as Tails, at least in Sonic 2, wasn't very different

It's just for the profiles though. Most probably for Robotnik. It's been theorised that Tails and Knuckles may come into the later episodes, but there's only two boxes. And after all the moaning about only wanting Sonic, I couldn't really see them adding anyone else, even with the later episodes.

If it does happen though, I'd like to see Tails added with Episode II and Knuckles with III.

[IAmRobotnik]

Knuckles, for some reason he feels very different from Sonic and Tails. Maybe because Knuckles seems a little slower. Tails feels lighter because of his flying ability. And Sonic feels balanced.

[vetalfox]

Knuckles...or Mecha Sonic

[Tirsey]

sup little *****es yo my name is knuckles and i aint comin to this palce for ***** and chuckles

[Project Sonic Werehog]

I agree that Knuckles has a more unique gameplay style but I have a sentimental spot for tails and rather see him if I had to pick. Plus flying and swimming are cool and can expand gameplay.

[WhackyBlue]

Tails. Can't go wrong with the two tailed fox.

[Solaris Paradox]

Tails was kind of a hax character in Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Instead of dealing with obstacles and enemies you could fly over them. As such I don't really want to play as him, but in my opinion, if this game is going to be Sonic 4, they should have tails following you around by default like he was in Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

Tails made things easier, yeah, but he also lacked a Super form for the first half of the game, so he also made things harder... if that makes any sense.

[Calhime]

I like them both. But if I had to choose I'd pick Tails. Come on, he's Sonic's lil partner in crime. I'd definitely welcome a return of Super Tails.

[Xtreme Starfox]

If only 1, Tails, but I'd much prefer Tails & Knuckles.

[Flamerstreak]

Well, this may not be possible at all, because of the storyline in this game, and Knux's duty to guard the Master Emerald and Sonic being the only playable character, but still...

Knuckles For the Win! I'd want to play as him more than Tails (who I still like) anyday!

[Raiza]

Knuckles, by a longshot.

[sundayseclipse]

Knuckles.
I dig his pink superform

[Aaronterasu Okami]

Bump.

See sega, people did want other playable characters.

[BlakJakXXI]

Bump.

See sega, people did want other playable characters.
Really makes you wonder how Sega doesn't know this, huh?

[Nieves]

Ancient bump that's still applicable.

Knuckles.

While Tails has more instant appeal as a character, Knuckles has more room for interesting gameplay. Coming from the perspective of the classics anyway. I would like it if his gliding/landing were given a little more flow though. And as a character, he definitely has more depth and room to improve as well. Remove the gullible stigma and he actually represents what's good about Shadow without all the blatant emo self-worship and it wouldn't be hard making him into a really admirable character (which is what I think he is underneath).

[SMS Skull Leader]

Neither of those. There is another character out there that provides a more interesting gameplay twist without having to rely on outside aspects like nostalgia or popularity: Amy (with her advance 1 moveset).

Tails and Knuckles are welcomed too, but I wouldn't use them as much as the character that IMO set up the bar in gameplay creativity and functionality.

[shihe]

I want to see and PLAY as Knuckles again. (Man this is so back to 2010...)

I just love his gameplay style, bopping bad guys with his fists while gliding, or even performing that rising glide technique (after activating glide one split second before hitting a badnik with a jump). :P

I just love his gameplay too much..


I'd also like to see Amy with her Advance moveset. TAILS playable. And Metal Sonic with his REAL moveset. And DIMPS, if you made Metal Sonic NOT turn into a ball in Generations 3DS, why do it for Episode Metal? He has a forcefield for that! =/ (suddenly it feels like Metal Sonic is now curling more, and Sonic is UNcurling more, roles reversed)

[MrBadger]

I'd like to play as Tails, Knuckles and Amy. And I don't want Sega making an overly big deal about it. "Hey you know how you could play as Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy and Cream in the Advance games? Well NOW You can only play as Sonic, with Tails as an added gimmick! UNF NOSTALGIA"

Sorry for going off on a tangent but I'm not a fan of how Sega takes everything away, gives it back in small doses and expects praise for each one.

To answer the question though I'd rather play as Knuckles.

[Yeow95]

After seeing what they did to Tails in Episode II...no one shoulod be playable. Not really looking forward to a big hype machine generated for Knuckles only to reveal he's Sonic's personal hangglider/garden tool...or have the level designed influenced by his abilities to the point that you would have to glide through Bubbles chains in order to cross over bottomless pits.

[Aaronterasu Okami]

After seeing what they did to Tails in Episode II...no one shoulod be playable. Not really looking forward to a big hype machine generated for Knuckles only to reveal he's Sonic's personal hangglider/garden tool...or have the level designed influenced by his abilities to the point that you would have to glide through Bubbles chains in order to cross over bottomless pits.Or Sonic holding onto Knuckles while Knuckles climbs up tall walls similar to the needing of Tails for getting up over walls.

[Platinumb]

Sorry for going off on a tangent but I'm not a fan of how Sega takes everything away, gives it back in small doses and expects praise for each one.
I noticed that once was announced. They hint at Tails being in the game like he is a new character or something.

[Knuckles Chaotix]

Tails.

[Neon321]

Both.

[Nieves]

After seeing what they did to Tails in Episode II...no one shoulod be playable. Not really looking forward to a big hype machine generated for Knuckles only to reveal he's Sonic's personal hangglider/garden tool...or have the level designed influenced by his abilities to the point that you would have to glide through Bubbles chains in order to cross over bottomless pits.Yup. It's funny how we once assumed Ep 3 would at least complete the Sonic 3 package... Now though, we just have no idea what to expect.


Sorry for going off on a tangent but I'm not a fan of how Sega takes everything away, gives it back in small doses and expects praise for each one.

Could not agree more. You've already called it Sonic 4; it's bad enough already that you're aiming so far below the bar you deliberately defined. Don't make it worse by taking those shortcomings and actually hyping them.

The website for Ep 1 had a long countdown to reveal... Sonic.

[SMS Skull Leader]

I want to see and PLAY as Knuckles again. (Man this is so back to 2010...)

I just love his gameplay style, bopping bad guys with his fists while gliding, or even performing that rising glide technique (after activating glide one split second before hitting a badnik with a jump). :P

I just love his gameplay too much..


Share the sentiment, but for Amy. I mean I know that E-122 psi made my dream of playing the genesis trilogy using Amy with her unique Advance 1 moveset, however it's just not enough... I crave for new challenges... I want to see the Piko valkyrie in action again, to face unexplored levels using a style where coordination, timing, reflexes and skill are the key to success. To smash springs and reach heights that no one else can. To have full and complete control of bouncing like no other character can. To platform with unrivaled precision and eficiency as well as destroy bosses faster than anyone else, because when in possession of the Piko hammer, Amy is literally second to none.

I mean she's the character that makes me feel the same sensation I get from playing AM2 games: easy to understand, but only veterans can use to it's full potential.


(suddenly it feels like Metal Sonic is now curling more, and Sonic is UNcurling more, roles reversed)

Strange isn't it? *bricked*


After seeing what they did to Tails in Episode II...no one shoulod be playable. Not really looking forward to a big hype machine generated for Knuckles only to reveal he's Sonic's personal hangglider/garden tool...or have the level designed influenced by his abilities to the point that you would have to glide through Bubbles chains in order to cross over bottomless pits.


Sorry for going off on a tangent but I'm not a fan of how Sega takes everything away, gives it back in small doses and expects praise for each one.

Agree with both of you. I really dislike how they use the other characters as selling points, only for them to not even be playable because Sega has so little faith ion Sonic being a good character that they have to dumb down everyone else to make the protagonist "look good".

[shihe]

Speaking of Amy...

Would love to see her EXACTLY like in Advance. But I enjoy her hammer's "boppiness" from Adventure 1 a bit more. Can't quite explain it, it just seems more bouncy. :D

[Saberclaws]

Indeed Amy is quite the character, i would enjoy playing with her again with her ol' Advance moveset, made me have quite the good time playing as her :).

[SMS Skull Leader]

Speaking of Amy...

Would love to see her EXACTLY like in Advance. But I enjoy her hammer's "boppiness" from Adventure 1 a bit more. Can't quite explain it, it just seems more bouncy. :D

I know. Maybe using 3-D models like they did in S4: E2 can help achieve a similar effect. Heck it would allow for enemies to be squashed in a fashion similar to Sonic the Fighters before going "poof" and releasing the captured animal, which would run away while remaining in the squashed shape of an accordion for that comical effect that no longer seems to exist in the Sonic games.

Anyway, a question is how would the character be introduced and serve a purpose in the story? I remember writting something not long ago:


How to do an Amy subplot for a no bullcrap version of Sonic 4:

After having defeated Eggman in his last adventure, Sonic decides to go to Neverlake along with Tails to see the return of Little Planet. However when they arrive, they discover that the doctor is up to no good again, having set up his machinery to turn the once peaceful lanet into an armored battle station, far more powerful than the original Death Egg, as well as having captured most of the little animals to use them as a slave labor force.

Being a dude that is always willing to help those in need and ready to crush the evil ambitions of the doc, Sonic and Tails rush to help the captured animals. After defeatuing Eggman's robots in the usual warm up match, Sonic jumps to press the giant yellow button on the capsule to free the poor critters, and to his surprise he finds out that one of them is Amy.

As Amy finds herself free again, she sees her hero, Sonic, and jumps at him to reward him with her trademark hugs in front of a confused Tails as Sonic, who is embarrased, tries to set himself free. Later on Amy explains that she was there to see the return of Little Planet as well, out of nostalgia and wanting to remember that day when she and Sonic first meet, and informs him about Eggman's schemes. Sonic as usual decides to stop him and tells Amy to go back home and stay out of trouble.

As Amy reluctantly starts her journey back home, she hears noises and decides to check it out, hiding herself in the bushes. She then sees Fang the Sniper, who is comunicating with an hologram of Dr. Eggman, informing him that the duo of heroes have taken the bait and waiting to receive instructions of the next phase. Amy can't do much other than remain hiden during the whole conversation. Once Fang leaves, Amy decides to catch up with Sonic to prevent him from falling into their trap. she knows that she is not as fast, nor strong, even worse she is afraid... but regardless she resolves to do what is right.

And so her adventure begins... During the first level you find out that Amy can only jump. She has no attacks, can't roll nor do much. At the end of the first zone you must defeat a robot (who attacks using a very familiar looking hammer) by finding a way to make him hit himself. After defeating him Amy decides that if she is to endure her mission, she needs to use something to fight and claims the robot's hammer as her own, renaming it as the legendary Piko Piko hammer. After that you unlock all of her Advance 1 skills.

I think this would work as it gives a believable reason of why she would be there, what would be her purpose, re-introduces an old villain and explains where did her hammer comes from.

[shihe]

I know. Maybe using 3-D models like they did in S4: E2 can help achieve a similar effect. Heck it would allow for enemies to be squashed in a fashion similar to Sonic the Fighters before going "poof" and releasing the captured animal, which would run away while remaining in the squashed shape of an accordion for that comical effect that no longer seems to exist in the Sonic games.

Anyway, a question is how would the character be introduced and serve a purpose in the story? I remember writting something not long ago:



I think this would work as it gives a believable reason of why she would be there, what would be her purpose, re-introduces an old villain and explains where did her hammer comes from.

Wow... Words escape me for how much I love that story as a preset to an Amy game.

Great way of introducing a cool villain while developing Amy as a character. (And giving her the hammer too!)

[Sonic Aether]

Knuckles and Amy~

[SMS Skull Leader]

Knuckles and Amy~


After keeping Sonic and Tails from falling at Eggman and Fang's trap, our heroine prepares to go back home but she boards by mistake a ship that contains an army of robots that are heading towards Angel Island to eliminate the guradian of The Master Emerald and claim it for the Doc.

[prowerboy]

Both

Better yet, Tails Knuckles and Amy (and Sonic), are all ideal.

It should have been a given to at least have Tails and Knuckles

[SMS Skull Leader]

Better yet, Tails Knuckles and Amy (and Sonic), are all ideal.

Eggsactly. Really wish more people could ask for Sonic, Tails, Knuckle and Amy instead of saying "Sonic Tails and Knuckles... maybe Amy too". If you want something you have to say it with decision, otherwise you'll only get the glass half empty.

Really don't know why people still treat Amy, despite her being one of the more popular characters, as if she was just an extra or as if she hadn't proven herself already when she has done it plenty of times. It does not help when people like Ken come saying "Sonic, Tails and Knuckles is all you need" like he did quite some time ago... A stance that I challenge and can prove wrong from any front, whether it's about story telling or gamplay elements wise.

[shihe]

Eggsactly. Really wish more people could ask for Sonic, Tails, Knuckle and Amy instead of saying "Sonic Tails and Knuckles... maybe Amy too". If you want something you have to say it with decision, otherwise you'll only get the glass half empty.

Really don't know why people still treat Amy, despite her being one of the more popular characters, as if she was just an extra or as if she hadn't proven herself already when she has done it plenty of times. It does not help when people like Ken come saying "Sonic, Tails and Knuckles is all you need" like he did quite some time ago... A stance that I challenge and can prove wrong from any front, whether it's about story telling or gamplay elements wise.

If only the Taxman would've gone for playable Amy instead of playable Tails in the re-release of Sonic CD... I bet that would change the mind of millions. :P (And right a few wrongs with Sonic CD).

But I'm not sure SEGA would allow that... Still, a guy can dream. Regardless, Amy will forever be part of the main cast of Sonic the Hedgehog.

[SMS Skull Leader]

If only the Taxman would've gone for playable Amy instead of playable Tails in the re-release of Sonic CD... I bet that would change the mind of millions. :P (And right a few wrongs with Sonic CD).

Tails could stay, and Knuckles is welcome to join as well. After all the more the merrier. Still I agree that Amy was the character that should had been made playable for three reasons:

*Sonic CD is the game that made Amy an official canon character, being adopted from that old manga that introduced her in 1992. Maybe Sega picked Tails as a way to promote S4:E2 or maybe because he was a more accepted character among the retro audience, but still none of those justify overlooking the opportunity to make Amy playable in the very game that introduced her to the world.

*Amy as a playable character with her Advance 1 moveset is the only character in the series that provided a practical and fun alternate gameplay style (as in not recycling any of Sonic's signature moves) in 2-D (there is also Charmy, but he kind of breaks the game in a way that makes everyone else look bad XP). She is a character who shows that you don't have to use Sonic's moveset as a template, a thing that opens the door to more creative variations of gameplay that still stick to the core of what a 2-D Sonic game is supposed to be and maybe open the door to the rest of the characters who would probably see their movesets be redesigned to comply with a higher standard. (plus I would love to see the internet critics who have condemned the other character under the "sh***y friends" label eat their words for a change)

*Sonic CD's level design has more emphasys on exploration and platforming, being this last aspect the one where Amy excels with her jumping abilities (with three different jumps at her disposal, she could give Mario a run for his money), not to mention all of those springs that beg to be smashed.

[QUOTE=shihe;7548344]But I'm not sure SEGA would allow that... Still, a guy can dream. Regardless, Amy will forever be part of the main cast of Sonic the Hedgehog.

Well, there is the saying that you can't win them all,,, But when a very talented person from England ports Amy into the Genesis trilogy, it leaves you a taste of victory. Now if only Sega could make the hacks available on XBLA/PSN/Virtual Console as an "Amy bonus pack" so that more people could enjoy a challenge that gives an extra live to those classic titles.

Then again, you find surprises when you least expect them:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkgdnrlA8Vo

[BlakJakXXI]

[QUOTE=shihe;7548344]If only the Taxman would've gone for playable Amy instead of playable Tails in the re-release of Sonic CD... I bet that would change the mind of millions. :P (And right a few wrongs with Sonic CD).

Tails could stay, and Knuckles is welcome to join as well. After all the more the merrier. Still I agree that Amy was the character that should had been made playable for three reasons:

*Sonic CD is the game that made Amy an official canon character, being adopted from that old manga that introduced her in 1992. Maybe Sega picked Tails as a way to promote S4:E2 or maybe because he was a more accepted character among the retro audience, but still none of those justify overlooking the opportunity to make Amy playable in the very game that introduced her to the world.

*Amy as a playable character with her Advance 1 moveset is the only character in the series that provided a practical and fun alternate gameplay style (as in not recycling any of Sonic's signature moves) in 2-D (there is also Charmy, but he kind of breaks the game in a way that makes everyone else look bad XP). She is a character who shows that you don't have to use Sonic's moveset as a template, a thing that opens the door to more creative variations of gameplay that still stick to the core of what a 2-D Sonic game is supposed to be and maybe open the door to the rest of the characters who would probably see their movesets be redesigned to comply with a higher standard. (plus I would love to see the internet critics who have condemned the other character under the "sh***y friends" label eat their words for a change)

*Sonic CD's level design has more emphasys on exploration and platforming, being this last aspect the one where Amy excels with her jumping abilities (with three different jumps at her disposal, she could give Mario a run for his money), not to mention all of those springs that beg to be smashed.



Well, there is the saying that you can't win them all,,, But when a very talented person from England ports Amy into the Genesis trilogy, it leaves you a taste of victory. Now if only Sega could make the hacks available on XBLA/PSN/Virtual Console as an "Amy bonus pack" so that more people could enjoy a challenge that gives an extra live to those classic titles.

Then again, you find surprises when you least expect them:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkgdnrlA8Vo
It's times like this I feel fanmade work does a better job in keeping me interested in this franchise than Sega and the games. Its also what brought me back to begin with. If there was an "Amy bonus pack", I'd play it. I'd like more of a challenge, especially when the newer games feel too easy to me.

[Miru]

Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Espio, and Vector.

[Miles Prower]

At this point I'll go with anyone if they are playable properly.

Which means "easy ways out" in implementation should be avoided: re-skinning, all levels character-exclusive (e.i., each character for his own level, since that means no character select), and forced co-op.

[shihe]

Come to think of it... they didn't really need to "tweak the levels" for Tails in Episode 1, for example... But imagine you could play as him, you could easily bypass a lot of obstacles, and THAT's the fun of Tails!


They did decide to tweak the levels for Metal Sonic though... And he plays exactly like Sonic, so I'm not sure what was the point of that. It's not like they gave him new moves or anything. :P

Hope Episode 3 allows you to play as Sonic & Tails, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Metal Sonic (own moveset!) and perhaps even Amy later on.

[BlakJakXXI]

At this point I'll go with anyone if they are playable properly.

Which means "easy ways out" in implementation should be avoided: re-skinning, all levels character-exclusive (e.i., each character for his own level, since that means no character select), and forced co-op.
Pretty much this for me too.

[prowerboy]

At this point I'll go with anyone if they are playable properly.

Which means "easy ways out" in implementation should be avoided: re-skinning, all levels character-exclusive (e.i., each character for his own level, since that means no character select), and forced co-op.

Also this. I am so tired of Solo Sonic, I don't even care if it is a character I dislike. I would appreciate it over Sonic and cheap playables.

[Platinumb]

"From our community feedback, which said, 'we don't care which character is playable', we decided to bring back Big the Cat! You will take Big through more basic stages fishing for Froggy and wacking your fishing pole at Eggman's creations...in 2D! Big as you truly imagined him!" ~ Ken Balough

[Furianu]

I would love to be able to play as Tails :3 However not in Episode 2 style, he should be playable on his own :)

[NoWay?NoWay!]

I guess Tails could fly to unreachable parts of a zone and Knuckles would be able to glide and climb up to secret areas. Either would be fine ^_^

[ZeroTheHedgehog1021]

Amy,why? BECAUSE THE FRICKING PICO PICO HAMMER!!!

[SMS Skull Leader]

Come to think of it... they didn't really need to "tweak the levels" for Tails in Episode 1, for example... But imagine you could play as him, you could easily bypass a lot of obstacles, and THAT's the fun of Tails!

A lot of characters do not ned custom dsigned leves, unless the are incorporated in response to the "needs" of certain abilities (like Knuckles wall climbing, which in the more narow level designs of Sonic 4 is almost not necessary). For example the Sonic 1 hacks feature characters working perfectly in a game that never considered their abilties for the level's layout.


They did decide to tweak the levels for Metal Sonic though... And he plays exactly like Sonic, so I'm not sure what was the point of that. It's not like they gave him new moves or anything. :P

I think they were trying to for for "harder" levels, but since Metal was a clone, there really wasn't much point.


Hope Episode 3 allows you to play as Sonic & Tails, Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Metal Sonic (own moveset!) and perhaps even Amy later on.

I don't know about you, but I think that Amy has proven her gameplay potential beyond any shadow of a doubt, heck none of the other characters introduced after her (Cream, Blaze, etc) have matched the creativity nor uniqueness of her style. Ignoring her in favor of a character that has proven to have less potential feels like a disservice, especially when Amy in a story that involves Little planet makes more sense than Metal Sonic... or even Knuckles (who on top would still need to have the ME involves to justify his appearance while Amy has more freedom, plus her appearing before Knuckles would be a fresh change that gives a long overdue chance to a character that offers more than some of the more popular characters of the franchise)

[shihe]

Metal Sonic was my "at the very least" character, because I thought they'd at least give him a little unique spin on him (not to be taken literally, Dimps) sort of like the Falco to Fox in smash bros.

I don't doubt Amy's potential whatsoever. I just have a harder time imagining Dimps putting actual effort into her. They'd just go for recycled stuff to get the job done quicker.

If you ask me, then yes, Amy before Metal by a long shot! But she's the most likely to be left for last or even DLC if considered. =(
(Not to mention they seem like they want to play it REAL safe with characters with mixed reception in the fanbase)

[Scrubber]

I can't make this decision without first playing as Knuckles in ep 3.

[whisperingspirit]

A tough choice to make but if I had to choose, I would pick Knuckles. I enjoyed climbing and gliding with him in Sonic Adventure.

[pegaso92]

que vuelva el sega dream cast T_T

saludos.

[pegaso92]

Knuckles for me.

[Modochi]

For some reason I want Amy playable next, most likely cause I'm a fan of her and adding her into a game wouldn't require a lot of work as she basiclly plays just like Sonic with the addition of a hammer in most games.

And the first step in saving a character from the scrappy heap is to do something useful with them instead of shoving them into a closet dammit.

[NixMaster]

The answer, of course, is yes.

But if I had to choose one or the other, I'd go with the one who haz a hat!

[Miru]

My idea of the playable cast for Episode 3:

Sonic

Tails

Knuckles


Amy. She does not spin, and uses her Piko-Piko Hammer to attack


Espio. Also no spin, he has his invisi-tornado from Sonic Heroes, his horn attack from Knuckles Chaotix, and running on walls, also from Knuckles Chaotix


Vector. Also no spin, he has his air-dash (but no longer an attack) from KC, plus his bubble-gum attack


Charmy. Chamy Bee attacks with his stinger and can fly like Tails, but not spin.


Mighty. Mighty does spin, but in a tornado. He can wall jump.


Ray. Ray does not spin. However, he has a tail attack and can glide like Knuckles.

Fang. Not a spinner, Fang uses a gun and his bouncy tail to bounce about.


Bean. Again, no spinning. He throws bombs to attack, and can bounce on them ala Splosion-Man, or even roll on one like Donkey Kong and barrels.


Bark. A non-spinner who uses punches to fight.


Metal Sonic. No spinning. Can use his electro shield from CD as an attack as well as his boost


Mecha Sonic. Does spin, but relies on fairly different mechanics (perhaps the S4E1 mechanics?). Can go super and shoot fireballs.


Tails Doll. Does not spin. Has a knife to attack with. Can knife open passages in trees.


Metal Knuckles. Knuckles, but no spin and higher jump. Also a ground pound.


EggRobo: Not spinny, but has a gun and hover pack.

[Nieves]

Tails Doll. Does not spin. Has a knife to attack with. Can knife open passages in trees.lol. Love Tails Doll.

[Copley Hill Zone]

Calling it now.

[Sega Press Release]

In Sonic 4, Episode III, use the power of Knuckles! Sonic uses Knuckles to turn into a digger, a hang glider and a pair of boxing gloves for Sonic to fight his way through all new levels DESIGNED to work around Knuckles' moves!

Added bonus of semi-playable Tails to fly over all of the Knuckles based obstacles.

(Disclaimer: Neither Tails or Knuckles are playable in single player on your own, and we're surprised you would ask for this)

[/Sega Press Release]

[Miru]

Calling it now.

[Sega Press Release]

In Sonic 4, Episode III, use the power of Knuckles! Sonic uses Knuckles to turn into a digger, a hang glider and a pair of boxing gloves for Sonic to fight his way through all new levels DESIGNED to work around Knuckles' moves!

Added bonus of semi-playable Tails to fly over all of the Knuckles based obstacles.

(Disclaimer: Neither Tails or Knuckles are playable in single player on your own, and we're surprised you would ask for this)

[/Sega Press Release]

P.S. Amy and The Chaotix make short cameos.

[Yeow95]

Calling it now.

[Sega Press Release]

In Sonic 4, Episode III, use the power of Knuckles! Sonic uses Knuckles to turn into a digger, a hang glider and a pair of boxing gloves for Sonic to fight his way through all new levels DESIGNED to work around Knuckles' moves!

Added bonus of semi-playable Tails to fly over all of the Knuckles based obstacles.

(Disclaimer: Neither Tails or Knuckles are playable in single player on your own, and we're surprised you would ask for this)

[/Sega Press Release]

Don't forget the special complimentary "lock-on" tech DLC that allows you to play as Metal Sonic and his returning sidekick, the Tails Doll* in four Nintendo Hard levels of four Episode II levels, available only to Episode II owners who purchase Episode III!

*Aside from weight and speed differences, and the use of different models, both Metal Sonic and Tails Doll do not play significantly different from Sonic and Tails. Metal Sonic and Tails Doll cannot be played seperately.

[shihe]

Which reminds me... I would've much rather preferred them giving us "Episode Tails" instead of "Episode Metal". Since I've wanted to play as Tails in Episode I before Metal.

[supersonicultra]

Knuckles for me.

This.

[MrBadger]

Which reminds me... I would've much rather preferred them giving us "Episode Tails" instead of "Episode Metal". Since I've wanted to play as Tails in Episode I before Metal.

That and Tails's flight would have given us a gameplay variation. I wouldn't mind if the maps were the same, since I can think of a few circumstances where being Tails would change things.

I could skip that one bit in lost labyrinth where you climp the structure by rolling on boulders and the last one has a Bubbles in the way, the only hazardous Bubbles in the game, which always seems to catch me off guard, causing me to fall and begin climbing the structure again

[shihe]

That and Tails's flight would have given us a gameplay variation. I wouldn't mind if the maps were the same, since I can think of a few circumstances where being Tails would change things.

I could skip that one bit in lost labyrinth where you climp the structure by rolling on boulders and the last one has a Bubbles in the way, the only hazardous Bubbles in the game, which always seems to catch me off guard, causing me to fall and begin climbing the structure again

Exactly! The boulder area or the puzzle thing in Lost Labyrinth Act 2.

Speaking of Tails...

I'm not sure how Tails' physics work in Episode II, but does he still have that... unique trait where if he flies against a ceiling (while moving forward), both his horizontal and vetical speed combine like in the classics?

[BlakJakXXI]

Which reminds me... I would've much rather preferred them giving us "Episode Tails" instead of "Episode Metal". Since I've wanted to play as Tails in Episode I before Metal.
Same here. I'd rather play as Tails than a Sonic reskin. Seems like they're just trying to avoid anyone but Sonic being playable.

[ashthedragon]

I don't think it could have been that hard to give us the option to play as sonic or as tails like they have done in the multiplayer...if it works there, why not in single player mode?!

[SMS Skull Leader]

I don't think it could have been that hard to give us the option to play as sonic or as tails like they have done in the multiplayer...if it works there, why not in single player mode?!

Maybe Tails could, but since the level design was made considering Tails only, Sonic would not be able to progress. It's oddthat Tails was hyped so much as if supplanting Sonic only to end up not being playable solo... Hope the lesson was learned since this whole title was pretty much a fiasco since day 1. I'd rather see Treasure make an advance-style Sonic game with S/T/A/K before making a game that relies so much on nostalgia and developed by a studio that was making the Sonic 2-D games go downhill since Rush.

[Miru]

Maybe Tails could, but since the level design was made considering Tails only, Sonic would not be able to progress. It's oddthat Tails was hyped so much as if supplanting Sonic only to end up not being playable solo... Hope the lesson was learned since this whole title was pretty much a fiasco since day 1. I'd rather see Treasure make an advance-style Sonic game with S/T/A/K before making a game that relies so much on nostalgia and developed by a studio that was making the Sonic 2-D games go downhill since Rush.


Agreed about the fiasco part. How many gamers called it quits on the series because of this hunk of bile?

[shihe]

Or maybe they can just throw their cookie cutter formula down the window and go nuts with Episode III.

Give us Knuckles AND Amy. Take longer to develop it if needed. Make it so we can play as any of these four characters playable in Episode I (without altering the stage design) and II (tweaking the levels so that any one of these characters can complete the game SOLO).
If they want to rehash, then rehash something really underrated like the Game Gear games' levels!
-Mecha Green Hill Zone?
-Jungle Zone?
-Aqua Planet Zone?
-Underground Zone?
-Sunset Park Zone?

... endless stuff to choose from...

There is NO reason why this game couldn't turn at least close to Sonic Advance.

[Miru]

Or maybe they can just throw their cookie cutter formula down the window and go nuts with Episode III.

Give us Knuckles AND Amy. Take longer to develop it if needed. Make it so we can play as any of these four characters playable in Episode I (without altering the stage design) and II (tweaking the levels so that any one of these characters can complete the game SOLO).
If they want to rehash, then rehash something really underrated like the Game Gear games' levels!
-Mecha Green Hill Zone?
-Jungle Zone?
-Aqua Planet Zone?
-Underground Zone?
-Sunset Park Zone?

... endless stuff to choose from...

There is NO reason why this game couldn't turn at least close to Sonic Advance.

Also ad Team Chaotix and Fang/Nack.

[SMS Skull Leader]

Or maybe they can just throw their cookie cutter formula down the window and go nuts with Episode III.

Give us Knuckles AND Amy. Take longer to develop it if needed. Make it so we can play as any of these four characters playable in Episode I (without altering the stage design) and II (tweaking the levels so that any one of these characters can complete the game SOLO).
If they want to rehash, then rehash something really underrated like the Game Gear games' levels!
-Mecha Green Hill Zone?
-Jungle Zone?
-Aqua Planet Zone?
-Underground Zone?
-Sunset Park Zone?

... endless stuff to choose from...

There is NO reason why this game couldn't turn at least close to Sonic Advance.

Remember that idea I had? Not only could I explain how to add via Amy good old Knuckles without him looking like a shoehorned character, but also give a backstory to the Chaotix.

Think of it like this:

Sonic 4 Episode I:

*Sonic takes Tails to see Neverlake.
*The place has already been taken over by Eggman.
*During the first battle they resuce the animals and find that one is Amy, who was visiting the place out of nostalgia.
*Sonic tells her to go back home, as he and Tails go after the doc.
*In her way out Amy she hears noises and hides in the bushes, overhearing a conversation between a hologram of Eggman and a mercenary weasel name Fang, who are setting a trap for Sonic and Tails.
*Amy decides to warn them and starts her adventure.
*Amy succeeds in twarting Eggman's trap, allowing Sonic to pursue Eggman
*Amy decides to finally go home, but accidentally boards a ship carrying an army set to invade Angel Island, leaded by Fang, Bean, Bark and a misterious ninja Chameleon, while Eggman keeps distracting Sonic by activating a new and improved Metal Sonic.

Sonic 4 Episode Vector:
*After not hearing about her stepdaughter for some time, a rabbit named Vanilla decides to hire the services of the only detective who is willing to take on the case for minimum wage: Vector.

Vector's story basically consists in finding Amy's wereabout's by collecting clues in order to advance, being a more exploration oriented character.

[shihe]

Remember that idea I had? Not only could I explain how to add via Amy good old Knuckles without him looking like a shoehorned character, but also give a backstory to the Chaotix.

Think of it like this:

Sonic 4 Episode I:

*Sonic takes Tails to see Neverlake.
*The place has already been taken over by Eggman.
*During the first battle they resuce the animals and find that one is Amy, who was visiting the place out of nostalgia.
*Sonic tells her to go back home, as he and Tails go after the doc.
*In her way out Amy she hears noises and hides in the bushes, overhearing a conversation between a hologram of Eggman and a mercenary weasel name Fang, who are setting a trap for Sonic and Tails.
*Amy decides to warn them and starts her adventure.
*Amy succeeds in twarting Eggman's trap, allowing Sonic to pursue Eggman
*Amy decides to finally go home, but accidentally boards a ship carrying an army set to invade Angel Island, leaded by Fang, Bean, Bark and a misterious ninja Chameleon, while Eggman keeps distracting Sonic by activating a new and improved Metal Sonic.

Sonic 4 Episode Vector:
*After not hearing about her stepdaughter for some time, a rabbit named Vanilla decides to hire the services of the only detective who is willing to take on the case for minimum wage: Vector.

Vector's story basically consists in finding Amy's wereabout's by collecting clues in order to advance, being a more exploration oriented character.

I APPROVE OF EPISODE VECTOR!!

Sorry. Yeah, that's an awesome idea. Bringing back the whole classic cast together would be only LOGICAL for Sonic 4...

Amy and Vector.. man I'd pay three times the game's worth to play as them. Amy as she plays in Advance, and Vector with some new swimming mechanic that would put Tails' combo move to shame.

[SMS Skull Leader]

I APPROVE OF EPISODE VECTOR!!

Sorry. Yeah, that's an awesome idea. Bringing back the whole classic cast together would be only LOGICAL for Sonic 4...

Amy and Vector.. man I'd pay three times the game's worth to play as them. Amy as she plays in Advance, and Vector with some new swimming mechanic that would put Tails' combo move to shame.

The best is that if you put Espio as an enemy, you could explain better how did he and Vector originally meet and how they became close friends. (I kind of see them at first fighting like rivals until during a climatic battle Vector saves Espio's life, making the chameleon deciding to leave Eggman and choosing to put his loyalty at the service of the Chaotix detective agency)