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Macshaft
02-08-2010, 01:12 PM
Could someone please give me really detailed tutorial of how to use predator weapons, the throwing stars and spear and the shoulder gun. And what other things you can do as a predator. But mainly how to operate the other weapons besides the claws. I can't figure out how to use the other weapons and it is quite annoying. Thanks.

bent toe
02-08-2010, 01:20 PM
Use the digital cross on your controller to pick weapons (that you picked up) in your inventory, hold down R2 to use them.

Macshaft
02-08-2010, 01:25 PM
what is R2 ??

bent toe
02-08-2010, 01:31 PM
what is R2 ??
PS3 controller button.. sorry, forgot.
Can't help ya.. bye.

smap 53
02-08-2010, 04:22 PM
ok first find weps by holding down LT to go to a view mode where u can jump further and see weps. the when pick them up us the D-pad to pick whatever one u want. now comes the fun part,killing things, ok for the disk i would go onto the bottom florr and put on alien vision. Then when u see one of em hold rt to take your aim with those three red lasers. be warned though it doesnt lock on and u have to do it manuely. when you want to throw let go of RT and see if uve hit your mark, if not run back a little and wait for it to come back to you and try again. I prefer this weapon for close range with aliens and far for marines.Now i will tell you about the shoulder cannon. for this you can pretty much use the whole map for but high places are your advantege. ok when you see something you want to kill hold RT and place the crosshair over them. after the three lines form the triangle your free to let go of RT and see if it hits em. I forgot to mention this is an auto aim weapon soo after thee cross hair is over the person just wait for the triangle and let go.you can find resupply stations at the smartgun spawn, the room with all of the doors into it on the top/bottom floor and in one of the rooms on the bottom floor near a dead end. Ok now for the combi stick or spear this weapon takes more skill than the other and i only use it when my enemy is unaware of my presence. Just hold RT to pull it back, put ur crosshair on targets neck or shoulders if far away and let go

smap 53
02-08-2010, 04:26 PM
ok heres the second half. when using mines i usualy just throw them down in frequently used areas and wait to see if i get a kill with em, not much skill in that. last but not least are the wrist blades, i use these if i miss with the spear or disck and an alien gets to close. the trick is hitting ur enemy with a light attack if there charging a heavy one and heavy attack if there blocking. i also try to hit a marine with a light attck then get behind him and do a tk if possible.



Hope i helped, cya :]

Minstrel
02-08-2010, 04:50 PM
Disc? Basically hit people unaware from the rafters with it or hit them with a heavy attack and then instagib with disc, or you can go for close range instagibs but that is more risky with the awful netcode at the moment. Pretty much don't use spear at all with the current implementation, put mines in heavy traffic spots to kill marines and only use the downstairs under the rafter room energy recharge + mine coverage to recharge your energy. Plasma caster, charge it up enough so that it is guaranteed stun on marine and alien and let the autoaim do the work, with the guidance it is avoidable when they sprint in a specific manner so it is easy to just stun them with a charged shot and then they are dead if you fire another.

Lucien
02-08-2010, 05:34 PM
how do i shot web

smap 53
02-08-2010, 05:55 PM
cant shoot it in this game

zach016
02-08-2010, 05:57 PM
how do i shot web

Press all buttons at once, works every time ;)

emc
02-08-2010, 06:52 PM
the disk follows your cross hair (your laser). Yes it's manual but don't believe it doesn't have tracking, it does, it depends on how well you can track your target with your crosshair.

The spear gradually rises, I've found it's hard to get them at long distances because you need to aim below the target. Spear is good close range and can be used during melee sequencing.

Shoulder cannon is useful in charged blasts but can be used in quick blasts as well. I use the quick blasts (no charge) in melee combos when I'm point blank with an enemy. It's useful when you knock an enemy down, shoot them then continue attacking if they aren't already dead.

Prox mines are very useful. You simply hold down the attack key and it charges it, the bigger the charge the more powerful. When you die, your prox mines explode. You can also see prox mines by holding focus mode to see where they are, even enemy predator mines.

Macshaft
02-08-2010, 10:35 PM
Umm, thanks for the detailed info, but I have PC :< .. so I would like to know the PC controls on how to use the weaponry, I still havent figured it out and it is so frustrating! no tutorials in the game whatsoever (multiplay demo)

Minstrel
02-08-2010, 10:48 PM
1234 are the secondary weapons. Default fire for the secondary weapons is alt I believe, try looking at your controls.

kennyv
02-08-2010, 10:50 PM
First of all, be prepared to be accused of spamming just about every weapon you have. "Mines spam", "Shoulder cannon spam", etc, despite the fact that all of those eat up energy, making it difficult to spam, and even more difficult to safely replenish that precious energy, which leaves you open to just about anything.

Second, stay away from the disc. Yes, it's a 1-hit kill. Yes, it uses no energy. Yes, it usually hits something. It's cheese. The only people who will tell you it isn't are usually the ones you see camping the large room, spamming it from the rafters and not moving from that point the entire game. However, if you plan to use it sporadically, then by all means, go for it.

Minstrel
02-08-2010, 10:57 PM
Unfortunately predator is designed so the high skill ceiling weapons, okay weapon(spear) is far less effective than whoring the auto aim capability of plasma, using mines, and disc instagibbing, so if you want to play it most effectively you use the lower skill weapons and sprint away if your one shot misses and they notice you.

emc
02-08-2010, 10:59 PM
Unfortunately predator is designed so the high skill ceiling weapons, okay weapon(spear) is far less effective than whoring the auto aim capability of plasma, using mines, and disc instagibbing, so if you want to play it most effectively you use the lower skill weapons and sprint away if your one shot misses and they notice you.

I wouldn't recommend that. I would say use every weapon in the preds :):):):)nal, they all have their uses for different situations. Start off learning one then move to the next.

Minstrel
02-08-2010, 11:32 PM
I don't think there is a debate that the spear is inferior to the others, particularly with the current lack of dedicated servers. There are certain situations where it is okay to use but the only advantage is for not giving away your position, and you are a lot more likely to just kill them outright and not worry about giving away your position if you just disc them. But when I have 10 ping on UK dedicated servers spear will be a lot better, just like all projectile weapons which require prediction are better with lower ping. Also will be more useful in TDM since you have to care more about giving your position away if the other team is remotely competent since the other players will turn around and deag you once you shoot the first person with a laser weapon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVTbb1R3yTo

Lucien
02-09-2010, 05:13 AM
I love the people who dictate to you, what weapons you can and cant use. Or what weapons are spamable and which ones are not. You’re the damn predator. Use what ever weapon you want. You cant really spam any of his weapons due to energy and you still have to aim the disc.

kennyv
02-09-2010, 09:07 AM
I love the people who dictate to you, what weapons you can and cant use. Or what weapons are spamable and which ones are not. You’re the damn predator. Use what ever weapon you want. You cant really spam any of his weapons due to energy and you still have to aim the disc.

1. He asked.

2. You have nothing to contribute, so why are you here?

3. Just because you aim, doesn't mean you can't spam it. It has no consequences to it being used, thus, it's spammable.

master hunter
02-09-2010, 09:27 AM
3. Just because you aim, doesn't mean you can't spam it. It has no consequences to it being used, thus, it's spammable.

its a weapon dude its like saying the marine is spamming his pulse rifle.

the weapons are there to be used and just to clear up a point from before the spear doesnt arc up it hits where u aim it takes balistic arc into account on ur throw so it goes up and comes down where u pointed.

yes disk is a bit of a cheap weapon and yeah if u just hang in the main room and use it then ur not playing like i would say a pred should.

i think the spear is one of the best weapons because it requires an ammount of skill to use it.

my tips are keep moving keep scanning the visions and if u get the drop on an alien range depending either spear of caster if there coming for you go for a heavy attack then spear them to the floor when u knock them back looks epic. marines if they dont see you spear them causes mass fear if they are teaming up. if they make your position then just book out of there and come back with the disk / caster thats personal choice.

mines are very usefull to protect an area anyone who saw avp2 the scene in the sewer mine an area then leave one way in / out get some attention and watch the path u left open with the spear ready anyones tries to sneak they go boom anyone tries to come head on they get speared into the roof / floor. oh yeah mine the roof too my alien playing buddy got me good befre i rememberd to do that.

weapons are there to be used just because someone keeps owning you with something learn form your mistake and avoid that situation again adapt and take him down. pred on rafters ''spamming'' the disk grab the other rifle as marine find a nice sly line of sight and then blast him. everything can beat everything else in this game u just need to stop think and then make ur move its not a run around like crazy shooter.

spamming is just peoples way of saying i cant beat that gun well other people can so just improve and come back for another go at him you will get there with time and practice.
:cool:

kennyv
02-09-2010, 09:46 AM
its a weapon dude its like saying the marine is spamming his pulse rifle.

the weapons are there to be used and just to clear up a point from before the spear doesnt arc up it hits where u aim it takes balistic arc into account on ur throw so it goes up and comes down where u pointed.

yes disk is a bit of a cheap weapon and yeah if u just hang in the main room and use it then ur not playing like i would say a pred should.

i think the spear is one of the best weapons because it requires an ammount of skill to use it.

my tips are keep moving keep scanning the visions and if u get the drop on an alien range depending either spear of caster if there coming for you go for a heavy attack then spear them to the floor when u knock them back looks epic. marines if they dont see you spear them causes mass fear if they are teaming up. if they make your position then just book out of there and come back with the disk / caster thats personal choice.

mines are very usefull to protect an area anyone who saw avp2 the scene in the sewer mine an area then leave one way in / out get some attention and watch the path u left open with the spear ready anyones tries to sneak they go boom anyone tries to come head on they get speared into the roof / floor. oh yeah mine the roof too my alien playing buddy got me good befre i rememberd to do that.

weapons are there to be used just because someone keeps owning you with something learn form your mistake and avoid that situation again adapt and take him down. pred on rafters ''spamming'' the disk grab the other rifle as marine find a nice sly line of sight and then blast him. everything can beat everything else in this game u just need to stop think and then make ur move its not a run around like crazy shooter.

spamming is just peoples way of saying i cant beat that gun well other people can so just improve and come back for another go at him you will get there with time and practice.
:cool:

The pulse rifle bullets don't ricochet. The pulse rifle is also not a 1-hit kill. The pulse rifle uses ammo. See where I'm going with this?

It's not a problem that I can't beat a disc thrower, because I can, and I have. It's a problem that it can be spammed with no consequence. No energy usage, it always comes back no matter what, no cool down or charge and it's ALWAYS a 1-hit kill. There is no other weapon in this game that matches its criteria. The grenade launcher damages the shooter if shot too close, also uses ammo. The shoulder cannon does little damage unless it's charged up, and even then, it's easily avoidable. The spear requres quite a bit of skill to use (kudos on that, I still can't do it). You said yourself, that they spam it from the rafters. Ever had them spam in a smaller room? Yeah, it's not pretty. They suffer no consequence of it, at all. Period. End of story.

master hunter
02-09-2010, 10:02 AM
The pulse rifle bullets don't ricochet. The pulse rifle is also not a 1-hit kill. The pulse rifle uses ammo. See where I'm going with this?

It's not a problem that I can't beat a disc thrower, because I can, and I have. It's a problem that it can be spammed with no consequence. No energy usage, it always comes back no matter what, no cool down or charge and it's ALWAYS a 1-hit kill. There is no other weapon in this game that matches its criteria. The grenade launcher damages the shooter if shot too close, also uses ammo. The shoulder cannon does little damage unless it's charged up, and even then, it's easily avoidable. The spear requres quite a bit of skill to use (kudos on that, I still can't do it). You said yourself, that they spam it from the rafters. Ever had them spam in a smaller room? Yeah, it's not pretty. They suffer no consequence of it, at all. Period. End of story.

look at it this way then for the disk anyway,

i throw it down a corridoor and scarper let it bounce around a bit (i can get ur greif from hlding rooms not my bag) i have a red laser coming from my head for all to see and shoot.

there is some overuse of weapons but i think it will balance out a lot more with teams of players. i do play marine a lot so i feel ur annoyance at the people who are too scared to come off the rafters but hey full game they will be the ones with little exp for getting no trophy kills.:grin:

kennyv
02-09-2010, 10:05 AM
look at it this way then for the disk anyway,

i throw it down a corridoor and scarper let it bounce around a bit (i can get ur greif from hlding rooms not my bag) i have a red laser coming from my head for all to see and shoot.

there is some overuse of weapons but i think it will balance out a lot more with teams of players. i do play marine a lot so i feel ur annoyance at the people who are too scared to come off the rafters but hey full game they will be the ones with little exp for getting no trophy kills.:grin:

The ones that shoot it once, when the situation calls for it, that's fine. It's just the ones that sit there, shoot, wait for it to comeback, repeat, that spam it.

You have a point with the XP, though. It should get people to get off the rafters and into the mix. But then, it's only unlocking skins, nothing really mportant to most.

x Milkster x
02-09-2010, 05:20 PM
I'm having problems with the shoulder cannon (triangle?) it seems I spend forever getting it and then dieing instantly the minute i do get it! Then when i do get a chance to practice with it it never aims is this because theres no one about?

I take it you only have to hold down right trigger to aim it and then it locks on but do you have to be in a certain vision mode to use it? eg heat mode for marines & alien vision for aliens? or will using normal vision work?

Lucien
02-09-2010, 05:38 PM
3. Just because you aim, doesn't mean you can't spam it. It has no consequences to it being used, thus, it's spammable.



I personally find the disc difficult to use. While its off bouncing around you cant use it until it comes back.
You have to keep your cross hairs on your moving target until it hits them.
And last your laser makes you a big target. Its really just a slow sniper rifle. In my opinion, it takes some skill to use.
If it was auto lock like before, it would be a different story.
Anyways, like I said before. Let people use what ever they want. :):):):):):):) AvP police over here.

Kingsfan
02-09-2010, 05:43 PM
mouse 3...

LaznAzn
02-09-2010, 05:49 PM
mouse 3...

http://dvice.com/assets_c/2010/01/Mad-Catz-Cyborg-RAT-gaming-mouse-thumb-550x311-31160.jpg

An orgasm with every click...
:p

Lucien
02-09-2010, 06:08 PM
http://dvice.com/assets_c/2010/01/Mad-Catz-Cyborg-RAT-gaming-mouse-thumb-550x311-31160.jpg

An orgasm with every click...
:p

haha oh wow thats awesome

emc
02-09-2010, 06:16 PM
I'm having problems with the shoulder cannon (triangle?) it seems I spend forever getting it and then dieing instantly the minute i do get it! Then when i do get a chance to practice with it it never aims is this because theres no one about?

I take it you only have to hold down right trigger to aim it and then it locks on but do you have to be in a certain vision mode to use it? eg heat mode for marines & alien vision for aliens? or will using normal vision work?

mouse 3 for PC and Right Trigger for 360. Mouse 3 is the middle button of your mouse, if you don't have one, remap your controls. You have to hold down mouse3/right trigger for it to lock, then release for it to shoot. You can cancel with melee/block.

master hunter
02-10-2010, 04:45 AM
you can lock on to anything in normal vision but for range user the apropriate vision for the target to get best results:cool:

Thei-de ooman
02-10-2010, 05:07 AM
I'm having problems with the shoulder cannon (triangle?) it seems I spend forever getting it and then dieing instantly the minute i do get it! Then when i do get a chance to practice with it it never aims is this because theres no one about?

I take it you only have to hold down right trigger to aim it and then it locks on but do you have to be in a certain vision mode to use it? eg heat mode for marines & alien vision for aliens? or will using normal vision work?

Precisely that. Heat vision to humans and electro vision to aliens. It lock (appears the famous triangle) in those visions. You have to hold the secondary fire to do it, and when lock, keep charging the cannon or release it to fire.

Lucien
02-10-2010, 06:38 AM
I have a question about the shoulder cannon. Is there a way to cancel the charge up? Example. I see an alien. I start to charge the cannon, alien runs around corner. I cant shoot it at this point because you cant sprint after it when its charged. So now I’m stuck with a fully charged cannon shot, that I have to fire and waste energy with.

Thei-de ooman
02-10-2010, 06:44 AM
I have a question about the shoulder cannon. Is there a way to cancel the charge up? Example. I see an alien. I start to charge the cannon, alien runs around corner. I cant shoot it at this point because you cant sprint after it when its charged. So now I’m stuck with a fully charged cannon shot, that I have to fire and waste energy with.

Use light attack or heavy to cancelled it. While pressing the secondary fire button, use one of those 2 to cancel the plasma caster.

Lucien
02-10-2010, 06:47 AM
Use light attack or heavy to cancelled it. While pressing the secondary fire button, use one of those 2 to cancel the plasma caster.

sweet thanks