Round III: Dual Sentinel S2 / Round II Results

[Edward@Sega]

Attention, GUARDIANS!

Round III of the Great Gurhalian Cup 2 is upon us!

All teams have finished Round II. Please register for Round III as soon as possible!

Round II results are posted below. We had a lot of terrific runs, and it has been a joy to see teams who are so well coordinated. This was also a more challenging run than might be expected -- Magas Maggahna proved a murder-happy boss of the highest caliber, and multiple teams came close to wiping. In the end everyone finished and we have further whittled down a pool of excellent time-attackers.

Also, congratulations to Flawless-Victory and BILLY MAYS WAS HERE --- these were the only two teams to turn in times under 7 minutes for this round (several others came close). Although different map versions obviously take different lengths to run, most teams ended up running similar map iterations for this round, since there were only a few blocks which were easily identifiable from the mission's start. Great job to all!

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Round III: Dual Sentinel S2
Parum - Denes Lake Area (All matches will take place in Universe 7)

Please contact shadowblackhedgehog and S-T-H as soon as possible to reserve a time! Round III has officially begun and you may schedule a time as soon as possible.

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Round II, Results

PC/PS2

Destiny Creators - WINNERS
v.
FUBAR
v.
NUBS R US - WINNERS


BILLY MAYS HERE! - WINNERS
v.
Battle Monkeys - WINNERS
v.
People Creatures


XB360

Team Re-Re (Bye)

Blazing Phoenix
v.
It's Always Sunny On PSU! - WINNERS


+Jaos for Jesus+ - WINNERS
v.
Kleptomaniacs


SevenSins - WINNERS
v.
Rappy Hate Squad


Flawless-Victory - WINNERS
v.
Pizza Power


TeAm RappySpain - WINNERS
v.
Good Times Bench


Balrog the Mythical Chinese Dragon
v.
***PSU ALL-STARS*** - WINNERS


We're Gonna Finish Last (bye)

[burninglink5]

Curious to see the final times here.

[Jewy Newman]

wOOt Seven Sins :D

[Mosemah]

Regardless, Edward still promised he'd play Worms: Armageddon with us.

[burninglink5]

Regardless, Edward still promised he'd play Worms: Armageddon with us.

Oh yes, this too. 8)

[FUDGEHOY]

Dual Sentinel S2!!! Thats awesome!!! I think its really cool that we'll only be 70 levels higher than the enemies. This is truly the best possible map to choose for this round. Many teams will probably not be able to finish such a difficult map.

[Toothball]

There aren't any difficult maps in PSU though. Just relax and it'll be over quick.

[Edward@Sega]

Dual Sentinel S2!!! Thats awesome!!! I think its really cool that we'll only be 70 levels higher than the enemies. This is truly the best possible map to choose for this round. Many teams will probably not be able to finish such a difficult map.

Hang on, that busted my sarcasm detector, I'm gonna have to go recalibrate it. In the meantime I'll assume you're being honest, since there's really no good reason to troll this thread like that.

Really -- it's a fun mission, and it's got enough different twists and turns that teams will have to co-ordinate. The point of a time attack is not picking maps that are so hard teams can't finish them (and really, PSU doesn't have those maps, does it?).

I don't think it's "challenging" in terms of having really difficult enemies, but I don't want to just keep cycling through S3s -- and it's not like most of the S3s are difficult for teams to pass or anything. The only exception was that Magas Maggahna was murdering people left and right; that mission was nice that way. More "difficult" bosses would likely be De Rol Le or some such, who we all hate for moving around way too much so it's just not fair.

So let's just do this round without complaint?

[AC_Messiah]

Congrats to all teams who are through, and good luck with the next round.

DS does have pretty low level enemies, it wouldn't be my choice but there you go.

Personally I would quite like to see Citadel of Sand come up. Something a bit different.

Hopefully I'll be able to compete in GGC3 (if there is one). Kind of gutted I came back just after the sign up happened!

[Edward@Sega]

Also --- I'm in the process of rewarding coins from Round I. I will move on to rewarding Round II coins shortly.

Some of you should already have your coins; a number couldn't receive them because they were online and I will try again. 41 teams x 4 members per team = a lot of coins to reward. They'll be added over the course of this week, most are already done though :)

[Eddie Valiant]

whoot for a classic

[S p a w N]

Thanks for the shoutout Edward and my offer still stand if you want to get on MAG+ TA leaderboards :)

[Nightwolf114]

I love this misssion. :D

[FUDGEHOY]

Hang on, that busted my sarcasm detector, I'm gonna have to go recalibrate it. In the meantime I'll assume you're being honest, since there's really no good reason to troll this thread like that.

Really -- it's a fun mission, and it's got enough different twists and turns that teams will have to co-ordinate. The point of a time attack is not picking maps that are so hard teams can't finish them (and really, PSU doesn't have those maps, does it?).

I don't think it's "challenging" in terms of having really difficult enemies, but I don't want to just keep cycling through S3s -- and it's not like most of the S3s are difficult for teams to pass or anything. The only exception was that Magas Maggahna was murdering people left and right; that mission was nice that way. More "difficult" bosses would likely be De Rol Le or some such, who we all hate for moving around way too much so it's just not fair.

So let's just do this round without complaint?I'm still not quite sure what criteria you and Ruby use to pick these maps, but I'd like to give you a list of what I think would have been better choices for this round.

Lightning Beast S2
Scarred Planet S2(long map variant)
Electronic Brain S2
Seed Express S2
Seed Awakened S3
Dark Satelite S3
Flowery Pursuit S2
Dancing Birds S2
White Beast S2
Sakura Blast S2
Hill of Spores S2
Sacred Stream S2
Desert Terror S3
Bladed Legacy S2

This is just my opinion, but since the level cap is 170 i don't think its too much to ask for missions with level 150+ creatures. I'm only speaking for myself here, but I know some others that agree.

[Jewy Newman]

Dark Satelite S3 would be tight =) maybe next round... or bladed legacy ^^

[Milranduil]

I think Sacred Stream would be a very good mission to pick for this...just my opinion though.

[FUDGEHOY]

None of what you posted makes any sense. The only missions I've had a problem with were Duel in the Ruins and Dual Sentinel. One of them has level 100 enemies, which is 70 levels below the cap. The other has a little higher enemies(not by much though), and can be soloed in 2-3 minutes. I just want this tournament to be the best it can be. In my opinion choosing a map with level 100 creatures does not accomplish that.

[Blue Dragon]

Theres nothing wrong with Dual S.

I don't think they would put us on the 3-4min map anyways.

Im guessing.

The map when you head right upstairs then spilts in two.

B2 Does this again. and B3 Has lots of Big dogs to kill. so your still looking at a 6-7mins mission. maybe 5, i dunno...\

Just going by ,memory o.^

But if you look at the last mission we just ran.

Even Desert G is a 5mins Map with 4ppl, so either way. Fudge, theres nothing to complain about really.

I mean, when was the last time we have actually TA'ed a really old mission?

[Toothball]

This is just my opinion, but since the level cap is 170 i don't think its too much to ask for missions with level 150+ creatures. I'm only speaking for myself here, but I know some others that agree.

Did you know that not everyone who entered this race is at the level cap? From what I gather the intention for this race has been to make it as inclusive as possible for everyone, not just those at the level cap with the best possible gear. Making the race as hard as possible just makes life even harder for those teams. There's no reason to punish them for not going all out at this game, as a stronger team will more than likely advance regardless.

I'm certainly happy enough with this round. I do Dual Sentinel solo all the time so I'll enjoy getting some race time in there.

[buckeyecrazy1990]

Theres nothing wrong with Dual S.

I don't think they would put us on the 3-4min map anyways.

Im guessing.

The map when you head right upstairs then spilts in two.

B2 Does this again. and B3 Has lots of Big dogs to kill. so your still looking at a 6-7mins mission. maybe 5, i dunno...\

Just going by ,memory o.^

But if you look at the last mission we just ran.

Even Desert G is a 5mins Map with 4ppl, so either way. Fudge, theres nothing to complain about really.

I mean, when was the last time we have actually TA'ed a really old mission?


no need to return twice after every line my friend, lol

[staxxy]

Also --- I'm in the process of rewarding coins from Round I. I will move on to rewarding Round II coins shortly.

Some of you should already have your coins; a number couldn't receive them because they were online and I will try again. 41 teams x 4 members per team = a lot of coins to reward. They'll be added over the course of this week, most are already done though :)

ahem!!! cough cough!!! you still owe me coins from alpals dumb event a few months ago. just thought i'd throw that out there :D

[FUDGEHOY]

Did you know that not everyone who entered this race is at the level cap? From what I gather the intention for this race has been to make it as inclusive as possible for everyone, not just those at the level cap with the best possible gear. Making the race as hard as possible just makes life even harder for those teams. There's no reason to punish them for not going all out at this game, as a stronger team will more than likely advance regardless.

I'm certainly happy enough with this round. I do Dual Sentinel solo all the time so I'll enjoy getting some race time in there.Toothball, I know you like the lower level maps. I have no problem with that. Some of us want missions where you can't one hit enemies with off-element weapons/pa's. I'm not attempting to get the map changed. I'm just making my opinion known. Thats what the forums are for.

[Nightwolf114]

I sucks we dont have the S3 yet but either way I still like the mission so I am fine with it.

[bloodflowers]

Does seem a bit pointless doing missions where it doesn't even take a full PA combo to kill the enemies. I'm pretty sure the dragon will die from a single duo-Jabroga too, or pretty damn close. Every time we get thrown easy maps, it just pushes the importance of player ability to the back seat, and gives the advantage to people with faster connections. Generally speaking, the more damage enemies have to take, the better it is for racing.

If we could get the S3 released in time for that round then sure it would work.

[Ellipsis...]

Oh nose! These monsters have about the same HP as the monsters in MAG+ and every other event released thus far! Therefore I cannot TA it despite TA'ing event missions! Lawgic iz mai specialtee!

[cloudstrife xx]

Oh nose! These monsters have about the same HP as the monsters in MAG+ and every other event released thus far! Therefore I cannot TA it despite TA'ing event missions! Lawgic iz mai specialtee!
Uhhh did the fact that the pc/ps2 servers are going down go to your head???
Also was you even around when duel sentinal first came out??? no probably not you were a nobody until 8months ago and true you are a half decent player, but Bobby is clearly a set above you on his fm and his gear is lol compared to yours...

[Ellipsis...]

Uhhh did the fact that the pc/ps2 servers are going down go to your head???
Also was you even around when duel sentinal first came out??? no probably not you were a nobody until 8months ago and true you are a half decent player, but Bobby is clearly a set above you on his fm and his gear is lol compared to yours...

You know what?

I "were" around when it "were" released. I also like Dueling Sentinals instead of Dual Sentinel!!! oh right sry i forgot that i don't know what a capital letter is??? btw i must use 3 of these watchamacallitspunctuations(???) at a time...

[cloudstrife xx]

You know what?

I "were" around when it "were" released. I also like Dueling Sentinals instead of Dual Sentinel!!! oh right sry i forgot that i don't know what a capital letter is??? btw i must use 3 of these watchamacallitspunctuations(???) at a time...
Childish....

[Ellipsis...]

Childish....

But of course!!!! I must type in a way so that the reader can understand!!!!

Oh and when did you fix your shift key????

[Nightwolf114]

This may just be me but I think this is something that is pointless to fight over.

[FUDGEHOY]

Ellipsis is just bitter that the pc/ps2 servers are closing. I'm not saying I blame him/her, but there's no reason to take it out on us. Back on topic, I'm really just not sure why the GM's have tried to make every round in this tournament a De Ragnus mission. Initially the 1st round was Duel in the Ruins before it was changed. The 2nd round was Duel in the Ruins before Edward himself admitted that it was not a good choice. Now the third round is Dual Sentinel, which is yet another low level mission with De Ragnus as a boss. I would very much just like to know why we'd go from 150+ creatures in round 1 and 2 to now level 100+ creatures in round 3. It just doesn't make a lot of sense.

[bloodflowers]

But of course!!!! I must type in a way so that the reader can understand!!!!

Oh and when did you fix your shift key????

Do people who lose relevance always have to turn into trolls?

[S p a w N]

Why cant we be friends?:)

[Ellipsis...]

Do people who lose relevance always have to turn into trolls?

Yup :p! That's precisely what I said in another topic :!:

It's a PSU tradition! Starting with Dragon Striker, Vatsu, and now myself! However I will never log on here after again after the servers close :o! So may as well enjoy this while I can ;)

[Sophie_33]

Disgusting, I'm dissapointed to have looked up to a pathetic character all this time.

[Evila]

I have a weird question. One of my friends, Firestorm, used to be on the Scarlet's Harlots team that dropped out near the start. Shame, because I was looking forward to some friendly competition. =P Anyways, would it still be okay for us to use him as an alternate? We might not even need one, but eh, better safe than sorry.

Will be picking out a time for this round soon. See yas!

[LPPhoenix]

**Following discussion between GMs and the community, we have changed several rules -- please take note!!! Rules which have changed have an asterisk next to them.**

8. Alternates may be used, however, once an alterante has played for a team, they are not allowed to play for any other team.

9. Alternates must be the same class as the person they are replacing.



i thing thats what u wanna know right?

[Evila]

Yeah, pretty much. I figure it'll be a no since he played that first round, but my team mates wanted to me to ask anyways, just in case it was okay since that team dropped out. He's the only one we know who could sub for anyone in our team if worst comes to worst.

But yeah, I'm totally okay with it if it's not allowed. We'll just have to time our next match really well. ^^;

[monster_man_dan]

It's a good thing round II ended last Monday and there is a pending match still.
I thought this was not supposed to go on for "as long as last year?"

[Edward@Sega]

I have a weird question. One of my friends, Firestorm, used to be on the Scarlet's Harlots team that dropped out near the start. Shame, because I was looking forward to some friendly competition. =P Anyways, would it still be okay for us to use him as an alternate? We might not even need one, but eh, better safe than sorry.

Will be picking out a time for this round soon. See yas!


Since they dropped out, and this is sort of a special circumstance, it's okay; someone from Scarlet's Harlots can go ahead and sub if needs be.

Please keep in mind that for other teams, once they are eliminated they can't sub in. This is a special case due to SHs never finishing the first round, and PC/PS2's need to finish this tournament with much haste :)

[Edward@Sega]

It's a good thing round II ended last Monday and there is a pending match still.
I thought this was not supposed to go on for "as long as last year?"

The match happened. I'm truly sorry for the lack of update. I have been out of office and away from internet (moving into my new place) for a few days. As noted in my previous message, please, start scheduling for this round as soon as you are able!

Information will be updated today.

[Edward@Sega]

New brackets are up!

http://www.phantasystaruniverse.com/image/events/ggc2round3xbox.jpg

http://www.phantasystaruniverse.com/image/events/ggc2round3pcps2.jpg


A note on PC/PS2: As with the last round, names were re-picked randomly for matchups. We are now on regular 1v1 matchups, and will be for the semi-final and final round.

[Rocchio]

New brackets are up!

http://www.phantasystaruniverse.com/image/events/ggc2round3xbox.jpg



Can you please post the times of "it's always sunny on PSU" and "Blazing Phoenix"? It seems that you have the 2 teams mixed up. You advanced the losing team to the next round. Thank you.

[Edward@Sega]

Can you please post the times of "it's always sunny on PSU" and "Blazing Phoenix"? It seems that you have the 2 teams mixed up. You advanced the losing team to the next round. Thank you.

I'm terribly sorry, I did post the wrong time on the chart. I will fix this as soon as possible.

[Toothball]

Nearly defeated by an erroneous copy-paste. That would have been a rough way to go out.

[HarunaAkatsuki]

Dang, I wish we got Dual S. last round! Ah well! My team and I still had fun even if we got punted out hard. Congrats to FV indeed. o^-^o

[S p a w N]

Dang, I wish we got Dual S. last round! Ah well! My team and I still had fun even if we got punted out hard. Congrats to FV indeed. o^-^o
Thank You:)

[TRIBAL ARTS]

im seeing a battle of flv and j4j in the near future. place your bets

[Mr.D.]

im seeing a battle of flv and j4j in the near future. place your bets

I bet a stack on J4J LoL Hey!:eek: You know if someone put enough thought into this whole betting thing I'm sure it would become a reality. I can see people now betting tons of meseta on teams as if they were race dogs:p LoL

[Aka The MVP]

im seeing a battle of flv and j4j in the near future. place your bets

900mirrion on frawress victory! Muahahahaha

[cloudstrife xx]

900mirrion on frawress victory! Muahahahaha
I bet Over 9000 On -FV-

[S-T-H]

Hey guys, I know Edward hasn't given a deadline for this round, but I think it might be to some advantage to speed up on scheduling (particularly for PC). I know it's to some inconvenience that Edward isn't running on weekends, but with the reduced number of teams we can probably progress faster than we have been.

I doubt anyone is incapable of doing that considering the who and the what, however I do want to get some feedback.

[Edward@Sega]

Hey guys, I know Edward hasn't given a deadline for this round, but I think it might be to some advantage to speed up on scheduling (particularly for PC). I know it's to some inconvenience that Edward isn't running on weekends, but with the reduced number of teams we can probably progress faster than we have been.

I doubt anyone is incapable of doing that considering the who and the what, however I do want to get some feedback.

Absolutely. In fact I'm looking at a deadline of the 15th (the Monday after this one). That basically gives all of next week.

PC/PS2 teams -- right now we are looking at it being unlikely we will be able to award the in-game items with any kind of time left to actually enjoy them ... I realize this is perhaps a minor deal for some of you, with the servers closing at the end of the month. But I'd still like to see the prizes awarded. If PC/PS2 can finish before the end of this next week we will move right on to the final round.

[LPPhoenix]

which items should we enjoy? ragan ragan or the king seat? nah....king seat is just funny and maybe someone have fun with its ragan ragan but idk for what i need this stuff for, so i dont care about these rewards, coins...the same. i just want a gold medal...and we dont get them....

[S-T-H]

Hopefully most of the leaders are staying in close contact here. Let me give a possible scenario. This is more for the PC players considering.

I think that given the amount of time since this round has been announced (and the mission involved), everyone should be more than ready to get this round out of the way by early next week. Then we can push forward with details on what will be the final round for the PC side. With only one match of two teams left to go, I think it would be reasonable to have it wrapped up by Thursday night. However, I do know that people are trying to work in runs and times around various schedules, so I wouldn't want anyone to feel as if they were at much of a detriment here.

[Milranduil]

Hopefully most of the leaders are staying in close contact here. Let me give a possible scenario. This is more for the PC players considering.

I think that given the amount of time since this round has been announced (and the mission involved), everyone should be more than ready to get this round out of the way by early next week. Then we can push forward with details on what will be the final round for the PC side. With only one match of two teams left to go, I think it would be reasonable to have it wrapped up by Thursday night. However, I do know that people are trying to work in runs and times around various schedules, so I wouldn't want anyone to feel as if they were at much of a detriment here.
I don't know what the status of the other teams is, but I think that's a bit rushing it to finish us all and be done within a week. My team can't practice til next Tuesday, and then again Thursday. My school schedule is extremely busy, we have a member that is GMT+1 so that's always fun scheduling, and our other members do have some obligations going on in their real life at the moment. Not to say this can't be taken into consideration...I just don't want to rush it out of the way without a good solid practice time or two you know?

[Ellipsis...]

My school schedule is extremely busy...

This is hard to believe :o! What classes could you be taking to make BOBBY busy with school?

[bloodflowers]

i just want a gold medal...and we dont get them....

I wanted a chance at a gold medal too, it was the only prize that really mattered. Even more so because 360 players have NO chance at the golds in MAG/MAG+ due to system performance limitations.

[RagolianHunter]

Not sure what is going on with my team...

One member is going thru some difficult RL issues, but I will try to have our race completed by mid next week.

If we cannot do it we will have to forefit..I will advise status once known. :(

[Milranduil]

This is hard to believe :o! What classes could you be taking to make BOBBY busy with school?
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x72/Milranduil/brysclasses.jpg
The PHY201 based on hundreds of students' feedback is the hardest physics class the undergraduates take here...and it most certainly is I can see that now >_>

[Edward@Sega]

Hey everyone,

So I hesitate to even post this because of how many changes have already been made, and how long this tournament has already taken (this is the 3rd month we're entering), and the fact that this round has already started. But the simple fact is that the people who objected to Dual Sentinel S2 as a time attack map were right, and I was wrong. There's a few spots in the map that require clever teamwork and if you don't know the map well it's easy to make wrong turns, but aside from that, it's just far too easy. I should have known this, and people made their feelings known, and I went ahead with it. Put simply, I should have picked a different map.

So: I'm willing to change the mission, and while I hate making yet another change, my preference is for a better/more challenging tournament. But this does disrupt things and it does postpone the tournament and it does mean we have to make sure all the teams know about the change. So, I'd like to let the community who are racing have a say here. At this point we've only had 1 team race, on PC/PS2, and of course I'm willing to accommodate everyone for this schedule change.

One issue: unless we really giddyup it will likely mean PC/PS2 won't receive in-game rewards before shutdown. We're going to have to hurry anyway -- I don't want to have to be finishing the tournament a day before servers close :) But, PC/PS2 has to be okay with this possibility if they want to change the mission. If PC/PS2 is fine with this mission and only XB360 wants to change, that's also a possibility -- anyone who wants to weigh in, please do, and make sure you include your server with your response.

If there are teams with a really strong negative opinion about this, I won't make the change, but if we all seem generally in favor of it, I'll be happy to. The new mission would be Bladed Legacy S2 (originally planned for the next round, but I can now adjust things accordingly).

[S p a w N]

Hey everyone,

So I hesitate to even post this because of how many changes have already been made, and how long this tournament has already taken (this is the 3rd month we're entering), and the fact that this round has already started. But the simple fact is that the people who objected to Dual Sentinel S2 as a time attack map were right, and I was wrong. There's a few spots in the map that require clever teamwork and if you don't know the map well it's easy to make wrong turns, but aside from that, it's just far too easy. I should have known this, and people made their feelings known, and I went ahead with it. Put simply, I should have picked a different map.

So: I'm willing to change the mission, and while I hate making yet another change, my preference is for a better/more challenging tournament. But this does disrupt things and it does postpone the tournament and it does mean we have to make sure all the teams know about the change. So, I'd like to let the community who are racing have a say here. At this point we've only had 1 team race, on PC/PS2, and of course I'm willing to accommodate everyone for this schedule change.

One issue: unless we really giddyup it will likely mean PC/PS2 won't receive in-game rewards before shutdown. We're going to have to hurry anyway -- I don't want to have to be finishing the tournament a day before servers close :) But, PC/PS2 has to be okay with this possibility if they want to change the mission. If PC/PS2 is fine with this mission and only XB360 wants to change, that's also a possibility -- anyone who wants to weigh in, please do, and make sure you include your server with your response.

If there are teams with a really strong negative opinion about this, I won't make the change, but if we all seem generally in favor of it, I'll be happy to. The new mission would be Bladed Legacy S2 (originally planned for the next round, but I can now adjust things accordingly).
My team doesnt mind either mission:)

[WUPAZZ]

The only problem i have is this change whould need to be made quickly as my whole team is made of people who have full time jobs and in different time zones so getting together to practice is difficult and we have a practice scheduled for this weekend. You also have to consider that people went out and bought weapons and armor for this round have now wasted their money. I dont mind either way but youll have to extend the round...i know most all our practice in on the weekend so this would delay us a bit so long as were accomodated i dont mind.

[Edward@Sega]

The only problem i have is this change whould need to be made quickly as my whole team is made of people who have full time jobs and in different time zones so getting together to practice is difficult and we have a practice scheduled for this weekend. You also have to consider that people went out and bought weapons and armor for this round have now wasted their money. I dont mind either way but youll have to extend the round...i know most all our practice in on the weekend so this would delay us a bit so long as were accomodated i dont mind.

Yeah, I understand totally. That's the trade-off here. The map choice was my mistake; I'm thus happy to extend the round and do whatever I need to in order to accommodate. PC/PS2 is the biggest concern, although we do only have a few matches left, but those few matches need to happen swiftly.

[Eddie Valiant]

Hey everyone,

So I hesitate to even post this because of how many changes have already been made, and how long this tournament has already taken (this is the 3rd month we're entering), and the fact that this round has already started. But the simple fact is that the people who objected to Dual Sentinel S2 as a time attack map were right, and I was wrong. There's a few spots in the map that require clever teamwork and if you don't know the map well it's easy to make wrong turns, but aside from that, it's just far too easy. I should have known this, and people made their feelings known, and I went ahead with it. Put simply, I should have picked a different map.

So: I'm willing to change the mission, and while I hate making yet another change, my preference is for a better/more challenging tournament. But this does disrupt things and it does postpone the tournament and it does mean we have to make sure all the teams know about the change. So, I'd like to let the community who are racing have a say here. At this point we've only had 1 team race, on PC/PS2, and of course I'm willing to accommodate everyone for this schedule change.

One issue: unless we really giddyup it will likely mean PC/PS2 won't receive in-game rewards before shutdown. We're going to have to hurry anyway -- I don't want to have to be finishing the tournament a day before servers close :) But, PC/PS2 has to be okay with this possibility if they want to change the mission. If PC/PS2 is fine with this mission and only XB360 wants to change, that's also a possibility -- anyone who wants to weigh in, please do, and make sure you include your server with your response.

If there are teams with a really strong negative opinion about this, I won't make the change, but if we all seem generally in favor of it, I'll be happy to. The new mission would be Bladed Legacy S2 (originally planned for the next round, but I can now adjust things accordingly).

ed your killin me man but what ever mission you want its your event
back to practicing seeya at race time

[Burnhil]

Hey everyone,

So I hesitate to even post this because of how many changes have already been made, and how long this tournament has already taken (this is the 3rd month we're entering), and the fact that this round has already started. But the simple fact is that the people who objected to Dual Sentinel S2 as a time attack map were right, and I was wrong. There's a few spots in the map that require clever teamwork and if you don't know the map well it's easy to make wrong turns, but aside from that, it's just far too easy. I should have known this, and people made their feelings known, and I went ahead with it. Put simply, I should have picked a different map.

So: I'm willing to change the mission, and while I hate making yet another change, my preference is for a better/more challenging tournament. But this does disrupt things and it does postpone the tournament and it does mean we have to make sure all the teams know about the change. So, I'd like to let the community who are racing have a say here. At this point we've only had 1 team race, on PC/PS2, and of course I'm willing to accommodate everyone for this schedule change.

One issue: unless we really giddyup it will likely mean PC/PS2 won't receive in-game rewards before shutdown. We're going to have to hurry anyway -- I don't want to have to be finishing the tournament a day before servers close :) But, PC/PS2 has to be okay with this possibility if they want to change the mission. If PC/PS2 is fine with this mission and only XB360 wants to change, that's also a possibility -- anyone who wants to weigh in, please do, and make sure you include your server with your response.

If there are teams with a really strong negative opinion about this, I won't make the change, but if we all seem generally in favor of it, I'll be happy to. The new mission would be Bladed Legacy S2 (originally planned for the next round, but I can now adjust things accordingly).

I will leave this one as a no comment.

[Edward@Sega]

ed your killin me man but what ever mission you want its your event
back to practicing seeya at race time

I know :) Pretending this event is not at least in part a learning experience for me seems foolish though. I'd rather admit a mistake than have to forge ahead and pretend it wasn't one. But since it does disrupt the tourney, I want to give the teams a chance to make the pick at this point.

[xiuying]

personally i'd rather we didn't change at this point, our team has already had 2 practice sessions and have our time to race organised

[Milranduil]

Like I said in one of the previous posts, our team only has time to practice about twice a week, rarely three times. We I guess could re-do this round at Bladed, but at this point, I think it would be better to leave PC/PS2 be with Dual and let xbox change if they want it. We've only got 3 and a half weeks left here, so we should get it done with. However, if the general vote does come to it, we can deal with a map change and re-doing round 3. Will just require some time on our end.

[Edward@Sega]

Like I said in one of the previous posts, our team only has time to practice about twice a week, rarely three times. We I guess could re-do this round at Bladed, but at this point, I think it would be better to leave PC/PS2 be with Dual and let xbox change if they want it. We've only got 3 and a half weeks left here, so we should get it done with. However, if the general vote does come to it, we can deal with a map change and re-doing round 3. Will just require some time on our end.


personally i'd rather we didn't change at this point, our team has already had 2 practice sessions and have our time to race organised


Both of these are good posts/points. Like I said, I hesitated to even post this but I wanted to give the teams left a chance to weigh in.

[RagolianHunter]

I agrree with Mr. Bobby - leave it as it is.. time is ticking.

And when the the clock strikes for PC - the clock dies.

[Nightwolf114]

I would like it to stay what it is now. =/

[Edward@Sega]

Okay -- thank you for the feedback. I am sorry to throw wrenches in the works like this, but wanted to give the opportunity ..... There are enough people saying "keep it" that we will keep it as-is. The show must go on! And I'll learn for the future :)

[S-T-H]

Okay. Now that that's settled, we're still missing times for half the teams.

I'd still like to get the PC teams scheduled for the near future. I hope that the two remaining teams on that side can put times in for next week (preferably early on). Let us know.

Edit: I wouldn't put any worry on any of the teams as far as being disqualified or forfeiting for the rest of the event. As much as we'd want to get through the rest of the rounds quickly, we're not going to start leaving people behind that have been involved so much so far.

[LPPhoenix]

just one question left...so its settled for pc/ps2 side?
round 3 : dual sentimal s2
round 4: citadel of sand s3
? so we know the final run already now or do u wanna change it again ed? XD

[bloodflowers]

The new mission would be Bladed Legacy S2 (originally planned for the next round, but I can now adjust things accordingly).

That was used in the finals last time. Flowery Pursuit and Dark Satellite/Seed Awakened are good maps which have not been used.

[Edward@Sega]

Okay. Now that that's settled, we're still missing times for half the teams.

I'd still like to get the PC teams scheduled for the near future. I hope that the two remaining teams on that side can put times in for next week (preferably early on). Let us know.

Edit: I wouldn't put any worry on any of the teams as far as being disqualified or forfeiting for the rest of the event. As much as we'd want to get through the rest of the rounds quickly, we're not going to start leaving people behind that have been involved so much so far.

Agree 100%. If you absolutely cannot make any of the normal time slots over the next week, please contact me (as well as your rep) and we'll do our best to work something out. There's not a lot of teams left at this point and it should be easier to figure out an alternate solution if needs be :)

[S-T-H]

just one question left...so its settled for pc/ps2 side?
round 3 : dual sentimal s2
round 4: citadel of sand s3
? so we know the final run already now or do u wanna change it again ed? XD
It looks like it will stay as The Dual Sentinel for this round.

Edit: The next round is unannounced again. See Edward's post below.

[Edward@Sega]

That was used in the finals last time. Flowery Pursuit and Dark Satellite/Seed Awakened are good maps which have not been used.

SEED Awakened was used for PC/PS2; Bladed Legacy for Xbox 360. At any rate, we're staying as is. I'm sure there's dissenting opinions but enough people voiced their objection that I'm not going to remix this now.

Bladed Legacy won't be the next round now, at least not for Xbox. After this there's just 1 round left for PC/PS2 though, and 2 left for Xbox 360. Chances are there'll be different maps for the servers next round, for this reason.

[Edward@Sega]

just one question left...so its settled for pc/ps2 side?
round 3 : dual sentimal s2
round 4: citadel of sand s3
? so we know the final run already now or do u wanna change it again ed? XD

Next round for PC/PS2 is not announced yet. It will avoid this hullabloo though. :)

This round will remain Dual Sentinel S2. Sorry for the confusion.

[FUDGEHOY]

I liked the change to Bladed Legacy S2. Good luck to everyone in the 3rd round. Looks like we've got a lot of good matchups:D

[Toothball]

I don't really mind what mission is used in each round. I find that a sprint mission is as interesting as an endurance race. But changing it after a week or two is quite disruptive to everyone who has gone ahead with the given mission in mind. More than anything else, decisions in an event like this need to be final, whether people like them or not.

[Burnhil]

I don't really mind what mission is used in each round. I find that a sprint mission is as interesting as an endurance race. But changing it after a week or two is quite disruptive to everyone who has gone ahead with the given mission in mind. More than anything else, decisions in an event like this need to be final, whether people like them or not.

I have to agree with you on this one. No comment outside of that.

[Ellipsis...]

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x72/Milranduil/brysclasses.jpg
The PHY201 based on hundreds of students' feedback is the hardest physics class the undergraduates take here...and it most certainly is I can see that now >_>

Holy guacamole that's a lot of classes! 3.99 GPA too! I hate you...

Anyway I also took Mathematical Methods (parts 1 AND 2) in Physics and here was me during those two quarters -> :( :( :(... It was like spamming Imaginary Numbers + Vector Analysis AKA Calculus + Physics... worse than FM spam!

[RagolianHunter]

Not sure what is going on with my team...

One member is going thru some difficult RL issues, but I will try to have our race completed by mid next week.

If we cannot do it we will have to forefit..I will advise status once known. :(


UPDATE - it's official we are now only a three player team.

We will run as a three player team. I will chat with remaining teammates and update this thread with our race time.

Good luck to all!

[Milranduil]

Holy guacamole that's a lot of classes! 3.99 GPA too! I hate you...

Anyway I also took Mathematical Methods (parts 1 AND 2) in Physics and here was me during those two quarters -> :( :( :(... It was like spamming Imaginary Numbers + Vector Analysis AKA Calculus + Physics... worse than FM spam!
Yeah that's exactly what it is lol We started with Imaginary numbers, then did FOLDE's, then SOLDE's, then Trig functions, and now we are doing none other than vector algebra lol. Only the first semester of this -_-........

[Tianna]

I just wanted to post an "I'm very sorry" to my teammates, the MODs and GMs that put this together. I have recently had some very serious real life issues with my family and my family always comes first so I had to drop out of the GGC II. I hope my team will find a substitute for me and have my full blessing for whomever they choose.

I love PSU and all the great friends on here but family is family and I woud give the world for them. SpAwn, NO FEAR, Akira I am truly sorry to not finish this out properly and I trust you all understand. GL to all in the GGC II and ty for the fun.

[RagolianHunter]

I just wanted to post an "I'm very sorry" to my teammates, the MODs and GMs that put this together. I have recently had some very serious real life issues with my family and my family always comes first so I had to drop out of the GGC II. I hope my team will find a substitute for me and have my full blessing for whomever they choose.

I love PSU and all the great friends on here but family is family and I woud give the world for them. SpAwn, NO FEAR, Akira I am truly sorry to not finish this out properly and I trust you all understand. GL to all in the GGC II and ty for the fun.

It's all good T, FIGHT ON!

[Edward@Sega]

I just wanted to post an "I'm very sorry" to my teammates, the MODs and GMs that put this together. I have recently had some very serious real life issues with my family and my family always comes first so I had to drop out of the GGC II. I hope my team will find a substitute for me and have my full blessing for whomever they choose.

I love PSU and all the great friends on here but family is family and I woud give the world for them. SpAwn, NO FEAR, Akira I am truly sorry to not finish this out properly and I trust you all understand. GL to all in the GGC II and ty for the fun.


Best wishes to you. I understand (as we all do) that real life trumps games every time :) Best of luck.

[S p a w N]

What run did everyone pick? -Fv- still has to pratice lol

[Eddie Valiant]

it never changed still dual sentinel

[S p a w N]

it never changed still dual sentinel
k ty...........

[Tron]

umm yeah, I haven't received my casino coins from round 1 or 2 yet....

[Nightwolf114]

umm yeah, I haven't received my casino coins from round 1 or 2 yet....

I sent Edward a msg about this but nothing. =/

[legendwolf]

Round 2 was really fun. Congradualations for all the teams that pparticipated and
heres the pics of us hanging out ofter the race.
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[legendwolf]

http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae209/strongbugsy/PIC_0231.jpg
http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae209/strongbugsy/PIC_0226.jpg
:)
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[Edward@Sega]

Congratulations to DESTINY CREATORS, who advance to the finals for the second year in a row! A valiant effort by Battle Monkeys; both teams put up great times.

I will announce the final map for PC/PS2 as soon as the other two teams complete their race. Good work Destiny Creators and Battle Monkeys!

[cloudstrife xx]

Congratulations to DESTINY CREATORS, who advance to the finals for the second year in a row! A valiant effort by Battle Monkeys; both teams put up great times.

I will announce the final map for PC/PS2 as soon as the other two teams complete their race. Good work Destiny Creators and Battle Monkeys!
Have all 360 teams ran now?

[Edward@Sega]

Have all 360 teams ran now?

Not yet. But remember, PC/PS2 are moving to their final round; Xbox 360 are moving to their semifinal round.

[Evila]

Congrats to Destiny Creators! It was a lot of fun competing against everyone. Hopefully we'll meet again in a future Phantasy Star game, hoho.

[RagolianHunter]

UPDATE - it's official we are now only a three player team.

We will run as a three player team. I will chat with remaining teammates and update this thread with our race time.

Good luck to all!

Final Update:

We are going to withdraw from run...

I cannot get in touch with one member for a number of days now..

The remaining two of us have decided to call it quits but only because we know there is no chance in hell we can compete as a two or three player squad

Thank you to those who have offered to fill in especially ... as obviously you would have helped alot.

But we have decided to go in as a team and go out as a team.

@Mr. Fear = thanks for the good times. you have been great.
@Lady T (tianna) = out of all the players i will miss, i will miss u most of all. You have been a great friend...be it just bs-ing about this game or discussing RL issues on our cells...its been fun.. I hope u and ur family the best. Keep in touch mate.

@ bobby and his team... while i feel that at first we put in alot of practice for this round...and really believed in our stragety...we will never know the result

As i have said many times before Mr. Bobby is one of the main reasons i began to enjoy TA runs on this game.. and really wanted to beat him... we will never know.

I appoligize to my team for this.........GRRRRR~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ got dammm


Okay im cool...

Good luck Bobby and team.

Good luck Wolfy and team

should be a great battle......I (we) dont want to hold this up any longer.

I will continue to FIGHT ON! as I wish the same for all of my former PC mates


Even you amuary......hope u write the latest dictonary someday or something.

This is my final PC .......FIGHT ON!

enjoy!

[legendwolf]

Final Update:

We are going to withdraw from run...

I cannot get in touch with one member for a number of days now..

The remaining two of us have decided to call it quits but only because we know there is no chance in hell we can compete as a two or three player squad

Thank you to those who have offered to fill in especially ... as obviously you would have helped alot.

But we have decided to go in as a team and go out as a team.

@Mr. Fear = thanks for the good times. you have been great.
@Lady T (tianna) = out of all the players i will miss, i will miss u most of all. You have been a great friend...be it just bs-ing about this game or discussing RL issues on our cells...its been fun.. I hope u and ur family the best. Keep in touch mate.

@ bobby and his team... while i feel that at first we put in alot of practice for this round...and really believed in our stragety...we will never know the result

As i have said many times before Mr. Bobby is one of the main reasons i began to enjoy TA runs on this game.. and really wanted to beat him... we will never know.

I appoligize to my team for this.........GRRRRR~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ got dammm


Okay im cool...

Good luck Bobby and team.

Good luck Wolfy and team

should be a great battle......I (we) dont want to hold this up any longer.

I will continue to FIGHT ON! as I wish the same for all of my former PC mates


Even you amuary......hope u write the latest dictonary someday or something.

This is my final PC .......FIGHT ON!

enjoy!hmm i would like to help you all. Im a lv 140 FM and i know your mind is made; but i beieve you guys can stick it out untill the in and you will never know what may happen . So if you change your mind.. NEVER GIVE UP!!

[Miagi]

Final Update:

We are going to withdraw from run...

I cannot get in touch with one member for a number of days now..

The remaining two of us have decided to call it quits but only because we know there is no chance in hell we can compete as a two or three player squad

Thank you to those who have offered to fill in especially ... as obviously you would have helped alot.

But we have decided to go in as a team and go out as a team.

@Mr. Fear = thanks for the good times. you have been great.
@Lady T (tianna) = out of all the players i will miss, i will miss u most of all. You have been a great friend...be it just bs-ing about this game or discussing RL issues on our cells...its been fun.. I hope u and ur family the best. Keep in touch mate.

@ bobby and his team... while i feel that at first we put in alot of practice for this round...and really believed in our stragety...we will never know the result

As i have said many times before Mr. Bobby is one of the main reasons i began to enjoy TA runs on this game.. and really wanted to beat him... we will never know.

I appoligize to my team for this.........GRRRRR~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ got dammm


Okay im cool...

Good luck Bobby and team.

Good luck Wolfy and team

should be a great battle......I (we) dont want to hold this up any longer.

I will continue to FIGHT ON! as I wish the same for all of my former PC mates


Even you amuary......hope u write the latest dictonary someday or something.

This is my final PC .......FIGHT ON!

enjoy!

this was a tough decision to make, best of luck to the final 2 teams on pc/ps2.

[Hit Squad Master]

Congrats to Destiny Creators! It was a lot of fun competing against everyone. Hopefully we'll meet again in a future Phantasy Star game, hoho.

Thanks. We got a bit of luck with it so it's cool.

If you can get to the JP server, you can meet us there! :)

[Tianna]

[QUOTE=RagolianHunter;5668625]Final Update:

We are going to withdraw from run...

I cannot get in touch with one member for a number of days now..

The remaining two of us have decided to call it quits but only because we know there is no chance in hell we can compete as a two or three player squad

Thank you to those who have offered to fill in especially ... as obviously you would have helped alot.

But we have decided to go in as a team and go out as a team.

@Lady T (tianna) = out of all the players i will miss, i will miss u most of all. You have been a great friend...be it just bs-ing about this game or discussing RL issues on our cells...its been fun.. I hope u and ur family the best. Keep in touch mate.


This is deffinitely NOT the way I wanted things to come to an end.

SpAwn, you have been a dear friend in-game as well as in RL. There was only one thing I wanted as badly as the GGC II and that is RL to not suck so bad. I know you understand but I know it is my fault no matter the reason. You are a true friend.

Akira(aka Miagi), I am very sorry I could not continue but I trust you understand. You have been a great team member and someone we could all rely on. Have fun on the 360 side.

NO FEAR, awesome team member and alot of fun to be around.

Bobbeh, I hate to go out this way. You gave us motivation and at the same time were fun to run missions with. Tbh we wanted to beat ur butt something fierce but you were always cool .... you can like someone and still want to compete, right? lol Gonna miss ya!

Wolfy, LP, Zoe and Akushy, I am gonna really miss you guys. I will not be returning to the JP side because RL takes precedence. Keep being the great people you are and thanks for all the good times.

Edward, thank you very much for the GGC II you all put together! Bad timing on my part. I don't consider myself a quitter but I had to make a choice. Quitting a game is much better than quitting my family (which I would never do).

Good news in the end: Me, my husband and 3 kids have a new outlook on life and all is going great so I don't regret the decision. HAVE FUN ALL and GL!!

[Edward@Sega]

Final Update:

We are going to withdraw from run...

I cannot get in touch with one member for a number of days now..

The remaining two of us have decided to call it quits but only because we know there is no chance in hell we can compete as a two or three player squad

Thank you to those who have offered to fill in especially ... as obviously you would have helped alot.

But we have decided to go in as a team and go out as a team.

@Mr. Fear = thanks for the good times. you have been great.
@Lady T (tianna) = out of all the players i will miss, i will miss u most of all. You have been a great friend...be it just bs-ing about this game or discussing RL issues on our cells...its been fun.. I hope u and ur family the best. Keep in touch mate.

@ bobby and his team... while i feel that at first we put in alot of practice for this round...and really believed in our stragety...we will never know the result

As i have said many times before Mr. Bobby is one of the main reasons i began to enjoy TA runs on this game.. and really wanted to beat him... we will never know.

I appoligize to my team for this.........GRRRRR~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ got dammm


Okay im cool...

Good luck Bobby and team.

Good luck Wolfy and team

should be a great battle......I (we) dont want to hold this up any longer.

I will continue to FIGHT ON! as I wish the same for all of my former PC mates


Even you amuary......hope u write the latest dictonary someday or something.

This is my final PC .......FIGHT ON!

enjoy!


Really sorry to hear this. Obviously if you are able to change your mind you are welcomed to (just want to leave the door open). Absolutely best of luck to you and thank you so much for taking part. All of the 4 final teams have put up really terrific runs & have been wonderful and gracious people to run with --- it's been great to see this & run with you all at the twilight of the PC/PS2 servers.

It looks like we are set for the final round then (BILLY MAYS has already put up a time). I will announce details shortly. Let's do this thing.

[Edward@Sega]

Okay, we are juuuuuust about done with Round III.

Team Rappy Spain -- We have not heard from you yet; please schedule a time as soon as possible. If you can't schedule something by tomorrow then Flawless-Victory will advance.

Edit -- Team SevenSins has raced now. We need to hear a definite time from RappySpain by tomorrow morning (West Coast time) or we will need to move on.

More info will be announced tomorrow and final results will be posted; great work by all teams this round!

[Toothball]

Okay, we are juuuuuust about done with Round III.

You might want to consider a deadline for the last rounds. It's likely many teams were leaving practice and scheduling rounds later than necessary as there wasn't any apparent rush to keep things moving. The first round was three weeks and that worked out for most teams. This one is nearly into a fourth.

[monster_man_dan]

You might want to consider a deadline for the last rounds. It's likely many teams were leaving practice and scheduling rounds later than necessary as there wasn't any apparent rush to keep things moving. The first round was three weeks and that worked out for most teams. This one is nearly into a fourth.


He announced this round the Friday before last I thought...?
Which means it will be two weeks this Friday.

Ed, you should also post the winner of our match!

[cloudstrife xx]

He announced this round the Friday before last I thought...?
Which means it will be two weeks this Friday.

Ed, you should also post the winner of our match!
Yes Edward Jaos 4 jesus vs 7sins outcome plz?

[Toothball]

He announced this round the Friday before last I thought...?
Which means it will be two weeks this Friday.

Ed, you should also post the winner of our match!

Well, this thread was posted on the 23rd which would mean we are into the fourth week of this round already if I've added that up right?

I'd also like to hear the outcome of your round to find out whether we're getting beat by you lot or the other guys in the next one.

[Edward@Sega]

Results & new round info are inc. Should be up within the hour :)

[Nightwolf114]

Results & new round info are inc. Should be up within the hour :)

Awesome! :D

[legendwolf]

lol Midori ^^; do you really need to ask :) your team dominated LOL btw Great Job!