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The Kung Fool
05-30-2010, 08:22 PM
I loved the Genesis/MegaDrive collection, it brought back so many memories and good times, and was easliy the best collection package ever released in my opinion.

Please SEGA, make a SATURN collection. Pretty Please.

and if its not to much trouble, make sure it has Shining Wisdom, Shining Force III, Shining Holy Ark, Panzer Dragoon, Panzer Dragoon 2wei, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Shinobi, etc. (and any of the working designs RPGs would be nice too)

TrekkiesUnite118
05-31-2010, 11:33 PM
Saturn emulation is difficult, and a Sega Saturn compilation is pretty much at the bottom of Sega's priorities right now. The system is very unpopular and obscure outside of Japan and Sega fans. It wouldn't make much sense for Sega to invest in making a compilation that few people would buy.

Redblaze
06-01-2010, 06:19 PM
We have a Japanese exclusive port of NiGHTS on the PS2, perhaps you should push for that to be ported into a XBLA/PSN title. That way, if NiGHTS does good, Sega might consider releasing more Saturn games.

Freddo
06-02-2010, 10:12 AM
Never had a Saturn, so a sega saturn compilation would sure be very nice :)

Games like Shining Force III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_Force_III) (plus the extra scenarios that never were released outside of Japan), Shining the Holy Ark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_the_Holy_Ark) and The Legend of Oasis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Oasis). The previous games of the series were included in the last Sega Genesis collection, so it would be nice to see the rest.

And then there's the Panzer Dragoon series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_Dragoon_(series)), Nights into Dreams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nights_into_Dreams...) and the Saturn versions of Virtua Racing Deluxe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtua_Racing_Deluxe) and the original Virtua Fighter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtua_Fighter_(arcade_game)) too.

Some Master System games thrown in wouldn't be wrong either, like Psycho Fox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho_Fox) and the Wonder Boy series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Boy) (especially Dragon Trap (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Boy_III:_The_Dragon%27s_Trap)) :p

TrekkiesUnite118
06-02-2010, 02:06 PM
Never had a Saturn, so a sega saturn compilation would sure be very nice :)

Games like Shining Force III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_Force_III) (plus the extra scenarios that never were released outside of Japan), Shining the Holy Ark (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shining_the_Holy_Ark) and The Legend of Oasis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Oasis). The previous games of the series were included in the last Sega Genesis collection, so it would be nice to see the rest.

And then there's the Panzer Dragoon series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_Dragoon_(series)), Nights into Dreams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nights_into_Dreams...) and the Saturn versions of Virtua Racing Deluxe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtua_Racing_Deluxe) and the original Virtua Fighter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtua_Fighter_(arcade_game)) too.

Some Master System games thrown in wouldn't be wrong either, like Psycho Fox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psycho_Fox) and the Wonder Boy series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Boy) (especially Dragon Trap (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Boy_III:_The_Dragon%27s_Trap)) :p

Why put in the Saturn versions of Virtua Racing and Virtua Fighter when they really suck, especially considering the Arcade versions are easier to work with and leagues better?

Ghostal_Force
06-02-2010, 02:54 PM
I don't think the SEGA SATURN is popular enough to warrant an entire compilation of games for it as a full retail release. The games are best put in XBLA & PSN.


Why put in the Saturn versions of Virtua Racing and Virtua Fighter when they really suck,

Nope, they don't suck.

Freddo
06-08-2010, 10:57 PM
Why put in the Saturn versions of Virtua Racing and Virtua Fighter when they really suck, especially considering the Arcade versions are easier to work with and leagues better?
I wasn't aware of them "sucking", I only played the arcade versions in the past.

superespeo
06-09-2010, 12:00 AM
I don't think the SEGA SATURN is popular enough to warrant an entire compilation of games for it as a full retail release. The games are best put in XBLA & PSN.



Nope, they don't suck.


Yeah I'd like to see them on xbla/psn, but it would be cool if they did release at least a few games (including NiGHTS since we didn't get the jp ps2 version) on a single disc.

Ghostal_Force
06-09-2010, 01:01 AM
That's actually pretty much the same as releasing it all on a single disc as you could save it all into your console.

TrekkiesUnite118
06-09-2010, 12:07 PM
I wasn't aware of them "sucking", I only played the arcade versions in the past.

The Saturn versions of Virtua Racing and Virtua Fighter 1 are pretty bad compared to the Arcade versions. The 32X conversions are better if that tells you anything.

Ghostal_Force
06-09-2010, 04:49 PM
The Saturn versions of Virtua Racing and Virtua Fighter 1 are pretty bad compared to the Arcade versions. The 32X conversions are better if that tells you anything.

Maybe not as good as the arcade versions, but they can still pass. Also, they can use Virtua Fighter Remix instead of Virtua Fighter 1.

TrekkiesUnite118
06-09-2010, 08:01 PM
Maybe not as good as the arcade versions, but they can still pass. Also, they can use Virtua Fighter Remix instead of Virtua Fighter 1.

Remix is nice, but the arcade version is still better and easier to work with. Why try and port an inferior version that's harder to work with when you have a better version that's easier to work with?

Ghostal_Force
06-09-2010, 08:22 PM
Remix is nice, but the arcade version is still better and easier to work with. Why try and port an inferior version that's harder to work with when you have a better version that's easier to work with?

Dude, this is a SATURN collection, not an ARCADE one.

TrekkiesUnite118
06-09-2010, 09:25 PM
Dude, this is a SATURN collection, not an ARCADE one.

What I'm saying though is that if the majority of the Sega games people want in this are Arcade games, why bother with Saturn versions when you have better Arcade versions available to work with? Saturn is probably one of Sega's least popular systems, and it's 3D titles haven't really aged that well, regardless of how incredible they were when they came out. It would be easier for Sega to just port the Arcade versions and they would probably sell better too.

Why bother trying to port these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p236Wtgrge0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Q9DGMXFEA

When you have these available?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOor70e7Kjs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJCOwBDUgfY

Ghostal_Force
06-09-2010, 10:07 PM
What I'm saying though is that if the majority of the Sega games people want in this are Arcade games, why bother with Saturn versions when you have better Arcade versions available to work with? Saturn is probably one of Sega's least popular systems, and it's 3D titles haven't really aged that well, regardless of how incredible they were when they came out. It would be easier for Sega to just port the Arcade versions and they would probably sell better too.

Why bother trying to port these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p236Wtgrge0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Q9DGMXFEA

When you have these available?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOor70e7Kjs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJCOwBDUgfY

I don't think it can be said about which SEGA systems are the least popular, especially in this time of age. The SEGA SATURN probably isn't any less popular than most of SEGA's other consoles.

This is a SEGA SATURN collection, so quite obviously they should use the SATURN versions. It doesn't matter which ones are "better". This is a SEGA SATURN collection. The SEGA SATURN version of SONIC 3D BLAST is far superior to the GENESIS version (higher quality graphics, soundtrack, sound effects, Special Stages), but it's the latter that gets ported instead.

Freddo
06-09-2010, 10:26 PM
Dude, this is a SATURN collection, not an ARCADE one.
Eh, Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection include several arcade games. If the arcade version is better, the collection should use that instead.

Ghostal_Force
06-10-2010, 01:38 AM
Eh, Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection include several arcade games. If the arcade version is better, the collection should use that instead.

True. Perhaps SEGA could release a compliation of SATURN & ARCADE games.

TrekkiesUnite118
06-10-2010, 08:09 AM
I don't think it can be said about which SEGA systems are the least popular, especially in this time of age. The SEGA SATURN probably isn't any less popular than most of SEGA's other consoles.

This is a SEGA SATURN collection, so quite obviously they should use the SATURN versions. It doesn't matter which ones are "better". This is a SEGA SATURN collection. The SEGA SATURN version of SONIC 3D BLAST is far superior to the GENESIS version (higher quality graphics, soundtrack, sound effects, Special Stages), but it's the latter that gets ported instead.

The latter version get's ported because A) it's the original version and B) it's far easier to write a Genesis emulator than to try and write a Saturn one or port Saturn code. This is the same logic used for why we always get the Genesis versions of Ecco instead of the superior Sega CD versions. It's not like Golden Axe where there are Genesis exclusive Sequels to warrant putting the Genesis version of it on a collection. The Saturn Arcade ports are simple ports that are scaled down. It would be better and easier to just port the Arcade versions.

And on the Internet the Saturn may not be as unpopular, but try talking to the average person you see in the gaming section of your local stores what a Sega Saturn is. They will most likely look puzzled at you and if they even know any Sega consoles they will think you are talking about the Genesis or the Dreamcast. Even a good amount of people who bought the Ultimate Genesis Collection will give this reaction.

Ghostal_Force
06-10-2010, 05:13 PM
The latter version get's ported because A) it's the original version and B) it's far easier to write a Genesis emulator than to try and write a Saturn one or port Saturn code. This is the same logic used for why we always get the Genesis versions of Ecco instead of the superior Sega CD versions. It's not like Golden Axe where there are Genesis exclusive Sequels to warrant putting the Genesis version of it on a collection. The Saturn Arcade ports are simple ports that are scaled down. It would be better and easier to just port the Arcade versions.

And on the Internet the Saturn may not be as unpopular, but try talking to the average person you see in the gaming section of your local stores what a Sega Saturn is. They will most likely look puzzled at you and if they even know any Sega consoles they will think you are talking about the Genesis or the Dreamcast. Even a good amount of people who bought the Ultimate Genesis Collection will give this reaction.

Alright, they could use the ARCADE version. Doesn't mean that SATURN didn't have any other good games.

As for the popularity for the SEGA SATURN, there is not much of a gap between its popularity and other SEGA Consoles. If I went to talk to the average person in my gaming store, I'm pretty sure they'd know what a SATURN is as I've talked to them before. As for a customer, they usually wouldn't know much about videogames because most of them are usually young children or typical adults. Really, I don't think they'd know much about SEGA.

TrekkiesUnite118
06-11-2010, 12:27 AM
Alright, they could use the ARCADE version. Doesn't mean that SATURN didn't have any other good games.

As for the popularity for the SEGA SATURN, there is not much of a gap between its popularity and other SEGA Consoles. If I went to talk to the average person in my gaming store, I'm pretty sure they'd know what a SATURN is as I've talked to them before. As for a customer, they usually wouldn't know much about videogames because most of them are usually young children or typical adults. Really, I don't think they'd know much about SEGA.

Ask someone who you haven't ranted to about the Saturn and see what reaction you get. I know the Saturn has good games, but when you eliminate the third party ones (Sega can't put these ones in a collection, they don't have the rights to do so), as well as the Arcade games, that list of good games becomes a small handful. Which at that point I'd rather see that handful of good games get full remakes than emulated in a compilation.

Ghostal_Force
06-11-2010, 01:13 AM
Ask someone who you haven't ranted to about the Saturn and see what reaction you get. I know the Saturn has good games, but when you eliminate the third party ones (Sega can't put these ones in a collection, they don't have the rights to do so), as well as the Arcade games, that list of good games becomes a small handful. Which at that point I'd rather see that handful of good games get full remakes than emulated in a compilation.

They wouldn't know. And they probably wouldn't know about the rest of SEGA's consoles anyway.

And still. If it'll just be a handful of games, then SEGA should just port the SATURN versions of the ARCADE games. Look, this is a SATURN collection, so they would do that. It does not matter which version is better.

TrekkiesUnite118
06-11-2010, 10:34 AM
They wouldn't know. And they probably wouldn't know about the rest of SEGA's consoles anyway.

And still. If it'll just be a handful of games, then SEGA should just port the SATURN versions of the ARCADE games. Look, this is a SATURN collection, so they would do that. It does not matter which version is better.

You keep saying "This is a Saturn collection" like it exists, however it doesn't exist. And it's probably never going to, this is the sad reality.

The Arcade versions of those games are leagues better than their Saturn ports. Considering the Arcade code is easier to work with than the Saturn code it makes far more sense to just port the Arcade versions. Look at the Genesis compilations. Yeah some Genesis ports of Arcade games are in there, but usually it's only ones that have Genesis exclusive sequels. And the Arcade versions are always included. Also considering that the Genesis collections are just an emulator with a collection of Roms, so it's no problem to throw in a bunch of filler games like Arcade ports. With Saturn it's not this simple. Even if they get an emulator running on a console you are still limited in space since Saturn games are much larger than Genesis games. And if they go the route of porting, you run into the issue of having to work with Saturn code.

It's easier to just exclude the Arcade ports and work with the Arcade versions of those games instead. And when you exclude those, you only have a small handful of games worth putting into a collection. Which at that point it's not worth the effort of trying to port Saturn code or make a Saturn emulator. At this point it actually becomes easier and more worthwhile to just remake the games from the ground up taking advantage of newer technology. Going the route of a remake relies less on an old fanbase that's nostalgic for a failed underdog console and instead can work off the old fanbase as well as attract a new fanbase.

And actually if you asked people if they knew what a Sega Saturn was they'd probably think you mean Sega Genesis. Most people here think Sega's only console was the Genesis, some if you're lucky remember the Dreamcast. Most people refer to the Genesis as just "The Sega". Saturn just isn't remembered well enough for a collection like this to be successful.

Ghostal_Force
06-11-2010, 10:58 AM
You keep saying "This is a Saturn collection" like it exists, however it doesn't exist. And it's probably never going to, this is the sad reality.

The Arcade versions of those games are leagues better than their Saturn ports. Considering the Arcade code is easier to work with than the Saturn code it makes far more sense to just port the Arcade versions. Look at the Genesis compilations. Yeah some Genesis ports of Arcade games are in there, but usually it's only ones that have Genesis exclusive sequels. And the Arcade versions are always included. Also considering that the Genesis collections are just an emulator with a collection of Roms, so it's no problem to throw in a bunch of filler games like Arcade ports. With Saturn it's not this simple. Even if they get an emulator running on a console you are still limited in space since Saturn games are much larger than Genesis games. And if they go the route of porting, you run into the issue of having to work with Saturn code.

It's easier to just exclude the Arcade ports and work with the Arcade versions of those games instead. And when you exclude those, you only have a small handful of games worth putting into a collection. Which at that point it's not worth the effort of trying to port Saturn code or make a Saturn emulator. At this point it actually becomes easier and more worthwhile to just remake the games from the ground up taking advantage of newer technology. Going the route of a remake relies less on an old fanbase that's nostalgic for a failed underdog console and instead can work off the old fanbase as well as attract a new fanbase.

And actually if you asked people if they knew what a Sega Saturn was they'd probably think you mean Sega Genesis. Most people here think Sega's only console was the Genesis, some if you're lucky remember the Dreamcast. Most people refer to the Genesis as just "The Sega". Saturn just isn't remembered well enough for a collection like this to be successful.

I was referring to the IDEA. If a SATURN collection is to be used, so will the SATURN versions. No matter how easier or better the ARCADE versions are to use, they still ain't on SATURN. I'm done on discussing this.

And most people HERE? Uh, no. On these forums, most people know a bunch about SEGA. In the outside world, I haven't met many who even know of SEGA's consoles or much about videogames for that matter. It's true that the SEGA SATURN isn't necessarily wellknown enough to warrant a collection as a full retail release.

TrekkiesUnite118
06-11-2010, 11:47 AM
I was referring to the IDEA. If a SATURN collection is to be used, so will the SATURN versions. No matter how easier or better the ARCADE versions are to use, they still ain't on SATURN. I'm done on discussing this.

And most people HERE? Uh, no. On these forums, most people know a bunch about SEGA. In the outside world, I haven't met many who even know of SEGA's consoles or much about videogames for that matter. It's true that the SEGA SATURN isn't necessarily wellknown enough to warrant a collection as a full retail release.

When I said here, I meant in the US.

And just because you want the crappy Saturn versions doesn't mean Sega will automatically do it if they ever choose to do this. If it is easier, cheaper, and faster to port the Arcade version, Sega is going to do that instead. It's simply how they work when it comes to this sort of thing. After all when ever they've done these kind of things in the past, such as the Sega Ages series on the PS2, or including Saturn games in newer games, they've always taken the easier way out and avoided touching the Saturn versions. Sega is not going to waste time and money trying to port an inferior version of a game when they have have a better version they can port using less time and money and have a much higher chance of actually selling it.

Ghostal_Force
06-11-2010, 12:36 PM
Again, if this is a SATURN collection, then it'd make more sense to use the SATURN versions.


But alright, they could use the ARCADE versions.

TrekkiesUnite118
06-11-2010, 02:11 PM
Again, if this is a SATURN collection, then it'd make more sense to use the SATURN versions.


But alright, they could use the ARCADE versions.

You are still talking about this like they are making it. I don't think I can make this any clearer for you. They will probably NEVER make a Saturn collection, let alone make one and release it outside of Japan.

When you eliminate the third party games we are left with a bunch of Arcade Ports and a handful of unique titles. When you eliminate the Arcade ports because the Arcade versions are better and easier to work with and Sega has proven before that they would rather work with the Arcade versions we are left with a handful of exclusives that wouldn't be worth the effort to port/emulate as it would be cheaper and easier to just do a full fledged remake at that point. There are not enough good first party exclusives on the Saturn to warrant a collection like this and Sega knows this and is not going to put forth the effort to do it for that very reason.

When we eliminate the third party games and Arcade ports what's left really?

Shining Force 3 Triolgy
Shining the Holy Ark
Shining Wisdom
Panzer Dragoon Trilogy
Dragon Force 1 and 2.
Magic Knight Rayearth (Sega might not have the licensing to do this one)
NiGHTS (Why bother when there's the PS2 remake?)
Burning Rangers
Deep Fear

What else is left really? Bug and Clockwork Knight aren't going to sell anything, they didn't sell back in 1995 what makes you think they will sell now? Outside of that we just have some text adventures and cash in anime games. It's not worth the effort for so few games. You'd be better off just remaking them than trying to port the crazy code that was written to try and pull the most out of the Saturn's complex hardware.

Ghostal_Force
06-11-2010, 02:31 PM
You are still talking about this like they are making it. I don't think I can make this any clearer for you. They will probably NEVER make a Saturn collection, let alone make one and release it outside of Japan.

When you eliminate the third party games we are left with a bunch of Arcade Ports and a handful of unique titles. When you eliminate the Arcade ports because the Arcade versions are better and easier to work with and Sega has proven before that they would rather work with the Arcade versions we are left with a handful of exclusives that wouldn't be worth the effort to port/emulate as it would be cheaper and easier to just do a full fledged remake at that point. There are not enough good first party exclusives on the Saturn to warrant a collection like this and Sega knows this and is not going to put forth the effort to do it for that very reason.

When we eliminate the third party games and Arcade ports what's left really?

Shining Force 3 Triolgy
Shining the HolyArk
Shining Wisdom
Panzer Dragoon Trilogy
Dragon Force 1 and 2.
Magic Knight Rayearth (Sega might not have the licensing to do this one)
NiGHTS (Why bother when there's the PS2 remake?)
Burning Rangers
Deep Fear

What else is left really? Bug and Clockwork Knight aren't going to sell anything, they didn't sell back in 1995 what makes you think they will sell now? Outside of that we just have some text adventures and cash in anime games. It's not worth the effort for so few games. You'd be better off just remaking them than trying to port the crazy code that was written to try and pull the most out of the Saturn's complex hardware.

Dude, this thread is discussing about IF there is one. Probably won't be one anytime soon, but still. We're not really discussing about the chances of there being one, but about what would be in it.

And lol you just named quite a lot of games. And you're missing FIGHTERS MEGAMIX. The SATURN version of NiGHTS will most likely be used anyway, it's far more known and most games are ported in their ORIGINAL form. SUPER MARIO 64 was put on the Wii's Virtual Console instead of SUPER MARIO 64 DS.

Anyway, I think the titles are best ported into something like XBLA.

TrekkiesUnite118
06-11-2010, 02:35 PM
Dude, this thread is discussing about IF there is one. Probably won't be one anytime soon, but still.

And lol you just named quite a lot of games. Also, you're missing FIGHTERS MEGAMIX. The SATURN version will most likely be used anyway, it's far more known and most games are ported in their ORIGINAL form.

Anyway, I think the titles are best ported into something like XBLA.


If they did Fighter's Megamix it would again be better to just remake it using the Virtua Fighter 5 Engine. And if we are talking about porting in original form, then that confirms Sega wouldn't port the Saturn versions of any of those Arcade games as they are not the original forms.

I listed 9 games, 12 if you include all 3 parts of Shining Force 3. MKR would most likely have licensing issues, and NiGHTS we already have the PS2 remake, why bother with the Saturn version? Mario 64 was put up because they already had an N64 emulator working on the Wii, all they had to do was bundle in a rom file and it was good to go. Also Mario 64 is an extremely popular and well known game, the games I've listed are cult classics at best.

The point is it would be far more worthwhile to remake these games than to try and port the Saturn code. Especially considering the 3D titles haven't aged well at all.

Ghostal_Force
06-11-2010, 02:43 PM
If they did Fighter's Megamix it would again be better to just remake it using the Virtua Fighter 5 Engine. And if we are talking about porting in original form, then that confirms Sega wouldn't port the Saturn versions of any of those Arcade games as they are not the original forms.

I listed 9 games, 12 if you include all 3 parts of Shining Force 3. MKR would most likely have licensing issues, and NiGHTS we already have the PS2 remake, why bother with the Saturn version?

The point is it would be far more worthwhile to remake these games than to try and port the Saturn code. Especially considering the 3D titles haven't aged well at all.

BUT this is a SATURN collection, so they should use the SATURN versions.

Dude, just because NiGHTS has a PS2 port doesn't mean it should be put in the collection. It's still relatively new. Using the original version is a far better idea.

And now you're going on about REMAKING the games? FIGHTERS MEGAMIX. REMADE? VIRTUA FIGHTER 5? IN A SATURN COLLECTION?

...

... Do you not see the point of a COLLECTION? Why would a collection randomly thrown a bunch of remakes for their games? This COLLECTION is supposed to be compilation of OLDER games.

I mean, just no, man.

TrekkiesUnite118
06-11-2010, 02:51 PM
Maybe if you would actually read and understand what I'm saying you wouldn't be so confused. I am saying that they shouldn't even bother with a collection as it's not worth it. I'm saying it's more worthwhile to just remake the small handful of games. Instead of wasting time and money on making a Saturn emulator or porting Saturn code, it would be cheaper, easier, probably faster to just remake them and they would probably sell a lot better.

The remake of NiGHTS on the PS2 has a Saturn mode that replaces all the graphics with the original Saturn graphics. It's not worth trying to port the Saturn version of NiGHTS when you could just port the PS2 remake.

I did not say put Virtua Fighter 5 in a Saturn collection. I said remake Fighters Megamix using the Virtua Fighter 5 Engine.

Ghostal_Force
06-11-2010, 02:55 PM
Maybe if you would actually read and understand what I'm saying you wouldn't be so confused. I am saying that they shouldn't even bother with a collection as it's not worth it. I'm saying it's more worthwhile to just remake the small handful of games. Instead of wasting time and money on making a Saturn emulator or porting Saturn code, it would be cheaper, easier, probably faster to just remake them and they would probably sell a lot better.

The remake of NiGHTS on the PS2 has a Saturn mode that replaces all the graphics with the original Saturn graphics. It's not worth trying to port the Saturn version of NiGHTS when you could just port the PS2 remake.

I did not say put Virtua Fighter 5 in a Saturn collection. I said remake Fighters Megamix using the Virtua Fighter 5 Engine.

In the collection? Seriously? and btw i already knew what you meant.

And man, about the SATURN code, it should still be able to get ported anyway.

TrekkiesUnite118
06-11-2010, 03:05 PM
In the collection? Seriously? and btw i already knew what you meant.

And man, about the SATURN code, it should still be able to get ported anyway.

I'm saying don't do a collection, period. So remake Fighters Megamix using the Virtua Fighter 5 Engine and release it as it's own thing.

Do you have any idea what crazy things programmers did to get things to work on the Saturn? No one in their right mind would want to try and port that code and it would be stupid to do so as a lot of that code wouldn't be necessary.

For example, in Burning Rangers to get Transparencies Sonic Team reprogrammed the Saturns Audio chip to control drawing. For one frame one video chip draws the solid geometry, then the next frame the all the transparencies are drawn, and the Audio chip controls this process. This causes the game to run at 15 fps but it is actually processing data at double that rate. There are other games were similar things are done and others where the audio chip is actually drawing polygons. There is no need to do this on a modern console and it would be a pain to try and port. It's not worth it.

Ghostal_Force
06-11-2010, 03:42 PM
Perhaps it could be difficult to port SATURN games.

Eh, still not impossible.

TrekkiesUnite118
06-11-2010, 03:44 PM
Perhaps it could be difficult to port SATURN games.

Eh, still not impossible.

I didn't say it was impossible, I said it wasn't worth it.

Ghostal_Force
06-11-2010, 04:14 PM
I didn't say it was impossible, I said it wasn't worth it.

Disagreed.:cool:

Thorn
06-12-2010, 03:52 PM
It had the superior version of Mega Man 8 as opposed to the Playstation version. Couldn't be all bad. Allow Capcom to sneak that in and I'd be all over it.

TrekkiesUnite118
06-12-2010, 09:17 PM
It had the superior version of Mega Man 8 as opposed to the Playstation version. Couldn't be all bad. Allow Capcom to sneak that in and I'd be all over it.

I didn't say it was all bad. Also Megaman 8 is a third party game, Sega would have to negotiate with Capcom to put that in. And Capcom has shown before that they don't care enough to rerelease that version, as the Megaman Collection had the PS1 version.

metalsonicgame19
09-04-2010, 11:17 AM
I would be all over this, even if a Saturn collection volume only had half as many games as the Genesis collection, I would still buy it since I never had a Sega Saturn. The Sega Saturn is the only system I never had.