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AuronX
04-21-2011, 08:37 AM
Well we just seen bits of the game but we really don't know anything besides speculations. Will this game have legit cutscenes, if so will be all original dedicated to the so-called story, or will they reimaging old scenes (including Classic era ones)? Also voice-acting, will Classic characters be limited to grunts and such, or will they go all out on voices?

Chaotic_Overdrive
04-21-2011, 08:43 AM
I hope the cut scenes aren't ridiculously long. I enjoy them, but I hate when 75% of a game is cut scenes. If they remade the classic cut scenes that would be rad.

AuronX
04-21-2011, 08:45 AM
Personally I want revamped modern cutscenes with better voice acting

Chaotic_Overdrive
04-21-2011, 08:51 AM
Personally I want revamped modern cutscenes with better voice acting
That would be lovely. xD I mean it seems the voice acting gets more horrid every year.

Honestly, I can't wait to see entirely new cut scenes. Although, I'm not sure if classic Sonic should have a voice.

Sonic5993
04-21-2011, 09:26 AM
I hope the cut scenes aren't ridiculously long. I enjoy them, but I hate when 75% of a game is cut scenes. If they remade the classic cut scenes that would be rad.

Considering ever since Unleashed the cutscenes have been shorter in length, I don't think that's going to be a problem.

Starlight Rage Zone
04-21-2011, 09:27 AM
Less cutscenes = More Levels.

I don't mind them...but why not make them in the levels in real time like Sonic 3 seemed to do.

Sonic5993
04-21-2011, 09:29 AM
Less cutscenes = More Levels.

I don't mind them...but why not make them in the levels in real time like Sonic 3 seemed to do.

Because we have better technology now.

Starlight Rage Zone
04-21-2011, 09:32 AM
Because we have better technology now.

Does technology matter? If the Mega Drive can create a story with no words spoken and the cutscenes being the actual happenings on in a level, so can the HD twins....it costs less as the programmers don't really need to animate much AND you still have space to create more levels...

I don't know why anyone would want more CGI over gameplay/levels but I guess it's personal preferences.

Sonic5993
04-21-2011, 09:38 AM
Does technology matter? If the Mega Drive can create a story with no words spoken and the cutscenes being the actual happenings on in a level, so can the HD twins....it costs less as the programmers don't really need to animate much AND you still have space to create more levels...

I don't know why anyone would want more CGI over gameplay/levels but I guess it's personal preferences.

Yes it does matter, we have all of this wonderful technology now,and new VA's it would be kind of a waste.

I never said I wanted more CG over gameplay, where did I say this, I just said cutscenes aren't pointless.

Starlight Rage Zone
04-21-2011, 09:44 AM
Yes it does matter, we have all of this wonderful technology now,and new VA's it would be kind of a waste.

I never said I wanted more CG over gameplay, where did I say this, I just said cutscenes aren't pointless.

Not really...as long as the technology works that's all that matters, people drive in outdated cars and they do their business no problem, how does new technology matter unless it does something radically different and significant in your life? I'm not saying new technology isn't necessary...merely it only counts when it impacts people's lives (games are a hobby after all).

I agree it would be a waste to not include VA's....but I never stated they shouldn't be used, I merely pointed out that Sonic has had a story with virtually no said dialogue.

In retrospect, did I ever say cutscene's are pointless? I just said that the less of them, the better....Secret Rings was fine in the comic book styled element and I am guessing it took less space up then a CGI would...

As for when I said some people perfer CGI over gameplay, I didn't mean it directly to you at all...I am just saying that these days, cutscenes seem to be a big thing over gameplay...I just hope that the CGI is put in the right places and don't deter from the gameplay.

Sonic5993
04-21-2011, 09:58 AM
As for when I said some people perfer CGI over gameplay, I didn't mean it directly to you at all...I am just saying that these days, cutscenes seem to be a big thing over gameplay...I just hope that the CGI is put in the right places and don't deter from the gameplay.


Not really, the first thing Colors does when you start it is throw into gameplay, so it doesn't deter as you say. There's been equal amounts of focus on both Story and Gameplay ever since Unleashed.

AuronX
04-21-2011, 01:30 PM
Not really...as long as the technology works that's all that matters, people drive in outdated cars and they do their business no problem, how does new technology matter unless it does something radically different and significant in your life? I'm not saying new technology isn't necessary...merely it only counts when it impacts people's lives (games are a hobby after all).

I agree it would be a waste to not include VA's....but I never stated they shouldn't be used, I merely pointed out that Sonic has had a story with virtually no said dialogue.

In retrospect, did I ever say cutscene's are pointless? I just said that the less of them, the better....Secret Rings was fine in the comic book styled element and I am guessing it took less space up then a CGI would...

As for when I said some people perfer CGI over gameplay, I didn't mean it directly to you at all...I am just saying that these days, cutscenes seem to be a big thing over gameplay...I just hope that the CGI is put in the right places and don't deter from the gameplay.
Shadow the hedgehog is perfect example of CGI over actual gameplay, but Sega has learned their mistake and times have changed. We have the technology and resource to make a game perform well and display a story beautifully. The genesis games never told the story unless you actually read the manual. Seriously think about it, Sonic 1 doesn't make any sense on its own. You start out playing and destroying robots and end up facing some odd shaped man come level 3. Nothing indicated that that man was named Eggman, or that he captured Sonic's friends and used them to power the robots. As said before times have changed and now plot is essential, and it doesn't need to be complicated. For instance Sega could recreate a scene of Eggman capturing Flickies and it sets up the beginning of Sonic's adventure, which is all it was about. They could even get creative and remake scenes with modern Sonic's involvement.

Crystal Chaotix 3
04-21-2011, 01:34 PM
There had better be. It'd literally come right out of nowhere if there weren't. Why even ask?

MrFranklin
04-21-2011, 01:52 PM
That would be lovely. xD I mean it seems the voice acting gets more horrid every year.

Honestly, I can't wait to see entirely new cut scenes. Although, I'm not sure if classic Sonic should have a voice.

Roger & Kates voice acting are leaps and bounds beyond the Sonic X cast. Madworld script writers need to get a handle on the jokes. Some of them are funny, some of them are just terrible. They are doing the script for this game so we'll see if they've improved any. Obviously it'll be the same voice actors as Colours. Roger is a much better actor than Jason, I dunno why people are mad because he portrays Sonic with an older accent.

SUPASONICBOOM
04-21-2011, 01:55 PM
Since we're discussing VAs,who else is happy that Roger isn't going "WOOO FEELING GOOD" in the gameplay?

Solaris Paradox
04-21-2011, 01:56 PM
Since we're discussing VAs,who else is happy that Roger isn't going "WOOO FEELING GOOD" in the gameplay?

Hey there, SUPASONICBOOM, welcome to last year.

Vector88
04-21-2011, 01:56 PM
You don't want cutscenes? Well, they'll sure let you skip them like they did in Colors

SUPASONICBOOM
04-21-2011, 01:58 PM
Hey there, SUPASONICBOOM, welcome to last year.I think I know what you mean:You're referring to Colors right?
But still,this looked more like Unleashed,so I thought of it.
But Roger seems to grunt more here than in Colors

Crystal Chaotix 3
04-21-2011, 02:00 PM
Who wants to get to know these characters and actually experience their world in a way that doesn't just have you running by everything? I do at least. My cutscenes are pretty much the only way I can aside from the random lines the characters used to say in Heroes and Shadow.

MrFranklin
04-21-2011, 02:07 PM
Since we're discussing VAs,who else is happy that Roger isn't going "WOOO FEELING GOOD" in the gameplay?

Tell me about it. I like Roger. His grunts are cool, his voice is cool and he doesn't grate my ears and puts real character back into Sonic.

As an older fan - its just more appealing to me

TOOT-TOOT
04-21-2011, 02:08 PM
Just as long as it's not GRIFFITH!!!

pacneemius
04-21-2011, 02:08 PM
Who wants to get to know these characters and actually experience their world in a way that doesn't just have you running by everything? I do at least. My cutscenes are pretty much the only way I can aside from the random lines the characters used to say in Heroes and Shadow.

I know i do..I love cutscenes..and i don't know what all the fuss it about. Sonic's cutscenes have NEVER been lengthy...

CobaItBIue
04-21-2011, 02:21 PM
Sonic meets classic Sonic
Shadow is furious and upset that he does not have a classic version of himself and kills himself
Silver wants to steal classic Sonic and call him his own and Sonic stops him by killing him

And that's it. Oh yeah, voice acting done by the usual cast.

Crystal Chaotix 3
04-21-2011, 02:24 PM
The entire fanbase wants what they're used to rather than what's necessarily more professional and better so why not? Oh wait, I'm part of that fanbase and I don't want that. Nevermind.

NoName999
04-21-2011, 02:28 PM
Modern Sonic: That tornado is carrying a car.

Classic Sonic: O_o

MS: It might even open up the gates of Hell!

CS: >_>

MS: We'll show that creep the real superpower of teamwork.

CS: :'(

MS: Yeah I'll just stick with small animals if that's okay with everybody.

CS: >:^( *kills Modern Sonic with a chainsaw*

Johnny_ Boy
04-21-2011, 03:57 PM
A modern day PINGAS cutscene would please me greatly.

Prodi
04-21-2011, 05:34 PM
Well we just seen bits of the game but we really don't know anything besides speculations. Will this game have legit cutscenes, if so will be all original dedicated to the so-called story, or will they reimaging old scenes (including Classic era ones)? Also voice-acting, will Classic characters be limited to grunts and such, or will they go all out on voices?

These are really good questions. I have no idea, but I will love to see old scenes (specially on Sonic fights with knuckles and the echidna finds the truth when he sees Dr. Robotnik stealing the master emerald). Keep dreamimg right?!

Crystal Chaotix 3
04-21-2011, 05:36 PM
I want to see what these characters DO aside from saving the world. The cutscenes should give me more of that somehow.