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Saiten-Genjo-Sanzo-Hosu
03-06-2006, 08:44 AM
Give reasons why you think which one is better. As for me I'm starting to think wheather you tension special or use RC combos one still ends up taking down about the same amount of damage. Here are my reasons.

For one when you use tension specials, after you enter the motion, the move finishes by its self giving you max damage, for that move, 100% of the time. When you RC Combo, I'm mainly talking about my self here, there's a posibility that, for some reason, the combo may break or end early. For harder combo, which I need to do a lot of damage, the I rarly ever get the whole combo off.

As for FD I dont know if I should use it or not because recently I've been using it every time I block and it takes a lot of tension; which I need. My friends, who doesnt use it and also uses tension specials, always have more tension than me and blast me with Tension specials all the time. I usually block like two of them but they do like 4 or 5 during the whole match. So even if I am better at doing combos than them the match is always pretty even. What do you think?

Shadow Draygon
03-06-2006, 11:22 PM
RC combo damage > Tension Special damage

Usually.

johnny_07
03-07-2006, 06:49 AM
RC combo damage > Tension Special damage

Usually.
Yeah!! But some one-hit OVERDRIVE such as Slayer's 632146 + S or air- 214214 + S are usually better ^^!! Cuz 632146 +S often causes a great deal of dmg, and if you link it to a RC then an air combo, the dmg followed will be SUPRISINGLY POWERFUL!! And the 214214 + S has a special effect - stagger the opponent 8) !!

Shadow Draygon
03-07-2006, 11:20 AM
That's why I said "usually".

Saiten-Genjo-Sanzo-Hosu
03-07-2006, 02:46 PM
Ok let me get this stright. johnny_07 says tension specials are better, Shadow Draygon say RD combos are better and I say there pretty much even. Looks like we have a stand off! Now we must battle to the death!

johnny_07, linking a super move with RC would make it a RC combo wouldnt it?

Shadow Draygon
03-07-2006, 02:58 PM
Considering that costs 100% tension, that would rarely if never happen in a real match.

FD next to FRC and RC are where most of the tension goes in matches.

Slayer is one of the few characters I see use their Overdrives in a match.

Saiten-Genjo-Sanzo-Hosu
03-07-2006, 04:20 PM
Can you explain to me how to get FRC do work, cuz I never can do it in a real match. Like Jam's FRC in her throw. How can you even tell which move have FRC and which just have RC?

Yea the only person I use overdrives with is Ino; and that's because I cant combo with here really well.

Shadow Draygon
03-07-2006, 09:16 PM
Go into training, setup the key where it shows your inputs. Then do your specials and if it flashes, it has a FRC point at the time of the flash.

FRCs are really tricky and have strict timing, so they take lots of practice to get right when actually playing against someone.

johnny_07
03-07-2006, 11:06 PM
I usually play SLAYER, KY and JOHNNY, so RC, FRC and OVERDRIVE all are important!! With SLAYER, as i said, he often uses OD in some FULL TENSION COMBO, but he gains tension quite fast. So i must wait until my tension is full then strike at the right time. JOHNNY has 2 different usages. First is to counter the opponent constantly with his fast moves. Second is to use high-dmg combos in which his DEVINE BLADE is used. If u use both 2 usages, JOHNNY WILL SURELY BECOME POWERFUL!! KY is a little triky to play. His CHARGED STUN EDGE's FRC is used to trick the opponent, and both RC and his OD: 236236 + P are used in combos.....
So we can't say exactly what's better between OD and RC/FRC. It depends on the characters we used.
FRC is really hard to practice in some moves such as Jam's one, Johnny's DB and Venom's shot!!

Saiten-Genjo-Sanzo-Hosu
03-08-2006, 06:52 AM
HOw can you... use Jonny? Out of all the characters I find him to be the least effictive. =/

For the flash thingy; jams grap doesnt have a flash. or at least I didnt see it.

johnny_07
03-08-2006, 07:02 AM
HOw can you... use Jonny? Out of all the characters I find him to be the least effictive. =/

For the flash thingy; jams grap doesnt have a flash. or at least I didnt see it.
Ur wrong about Johnny, join here: www.dustloop.com. There're many maniacs there using Johnny cuz he's REALLY ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE CHARACTERS!!
I'm sure that Jam's grab has a flash cuz ive practice how to FRC it ^^!! Maybe u didnt see it because it has only 5 frames to do the FRC!! So the flash appears very fast!!

johnny_07
03-08-2006, 07:07 AM
OH!! I forgot to tell u that u should also go to www.combovideos.com and find some interesting GGXX combo videos, especially Johnny's ones!! Watch them then u'll understand how good Johnny is!!

Saiten-Genjo-Sanzo-Hosu
03-08-2006, 08:18 AM
Thanks for the links. I'll check out some of those videos.

Kirby
03-22-2006, 08:20 AM
I tend to use them all in a balanced manner, although my tactics with FD tend to be....concentrate on building up over 50%, then use any spare for FD to keep down damage - unless I somehow wind up on the receiving end of a Dark Angel or something....then I FD all the way.