Several Sniper Questions

[Stryx]

Hey guys, I've got a couple of questions about sniping for you all.

Firstly, I was wondering what a good max speed for a sniper was. I usually try to keep mine anywhere from 165-185, but I'm not sure if I should drop speed to add some more weapons. And as a little sidenote, I've found that the Saba has more acceleration than the Neumann. When dodging, acceleration and the ability to change direction is key, so is it better to sacrifice the max speed for the acceleration?

Secondly, I personally have two dominant sniper builds. The first has 2 linked CE sabres and 2 linked CE SC100s on Hancock legs with C20, newmann, thalatha, and bardeen chips, then a light generator (I don't remember which one). I placed the snipers in groups of 2 on each side, (sabres with sabres and SC100s with SC100s), with the top weapon flipped upside down. The second has 6 Epees linked 3 x 3 on naqa legs with C20 cockpit. I have yet to find an effective way to fire 3 x 3, so I currently find my first build more effective. And now to my question. What is the best way to set 3 linked snipers? Haha I have heard of a few people who claim to make the shots so close together, that they look like one shot. I can do that sometimes when firing 2, but linking 3 definitely has the potential to be more effective.

Thirdly, What is the highest velocity sniper (other than SC200s)? Since I have no chance of getting SC200s, I thought that it might be useful to know the second best.


Alright thanks guys, I appreciate any help offered.

[slownlow30se]

The key to 3 linked shots is the Backus chip and a mobility base w/ very high stability. The highest stability you can get w/ Naqa legs is 269. The RJ-401s will give you 281.

[Volpes fulva]

stability is much more important than speed, in fact, my speed chip gives only a 90 speed boost and I do fine

[CloaknDagger]

Speed and stability are both of the utmost importance. "Aim stability" Is worthless.

I personally use Nueman for speed, the 140 stability Morskoj 3-slot stability chip, and the Sal Kar 1-slot weapon chip.

[sh4753]

I used to be a sucker for the sabres, but found that 17000 for reload time...well sucks. Even though they put the most penetration down range. I used to carry four sabres, linked in twos, two sniper rifles, a C-20 on 401's. This was a good build, but not a necessary one. If you are a true sniper then you really don't need a heavy or medium c-pit. I changed to the lightest salkar pit, with 4 SC-200's linked in twos, and one SC-100. All carrying HEAT rounds. They are a little slower and cause less penetration, but eveyone loves poping shields on front of the pits now, and HEAT rounds pentrate better then SABOTS. I put this on the inverse right below the 400's (forgot their name) and therefore increase my speed from 124 to 142 as well. I don't really consider the speed as a combat factor, more so for getting into position as fast as possible, rather then dodging fire. She wont last in a direct fire fight, but you gotta get close enough first!

[Trigger III]

124 Plus I can blow 401's with 1 shot, almost insta kill ne cocpit. all from 1km +. BTW I am not making this crap up. If you cant get four sniper cannons to fire in to a single shot group. Give up on sniping.

[Stryx]

Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it. Today I just got my hands on 4 SC200s (thanks to them being added to the normal shop), so I built myself a new sniper. He still needs some improvements, but so far he's worked pretty well.

Yeah sh4753, the reload on Sabres is horrible, along with their velocity and ammo. But for a while I just couldn't resist the damage.

Trigger, ok well... the most I've been able to get 3 snipers in a single shot group, the fourth is always my "lone tard". Any tips on how to get 4?

Wow. CloaknDagger posted on my topic. I'm honored. Lol seriously though, I really am. Anyway yeah, I was using that same setup, but right now I'm running two different types of snipers and comparing them, 1 with awesome speed and decent stability, and one with awesome stability with decent speed. So far they're both working well.

Yeah Stability helps Volpes fulva, but with only 2 linked currently, I only don't really need overkill stability.

And finally, Slownlow, yeah thanks, that helped loads. Now I can actually use 3 linked effectively.


And there are all of my personalized responses to your responses to my questions. Thanks again guys.

[Trigger III]

You have to figure that out on your own... A physics book might help :P

[Helios2291]

There is a way to get 4 grouped sniper shots, and its not that hard. Just use himmi's and the backus.

Fleurets have less kickback than the epee, but greater range with CE rounds (which the SC-200 sucks at).

I give this advice to everyone, if you are going to use CE rounds, use Tarakia sniper equipment. It loses less range on CE (around 140) while the Morskoj loses 300-340 meter range. The CE rounds travel at the same speed, Morskoj just doesn't go as far. I think the damage difference between Epee and SC-200 is only 80-90 CE damage as well.

The kickback on the Epee and SC-200 are severe enough to hamper 3 grouped shots enough, but with the Fleurets and Himmi's, 3 (Fleuret) and 4 (Himmi) shot groups are in the realm of the real while keeping speed.

If you go slower than 140, you stop being a sniper and become a target.

[Trigger III]

I use sabres

[TerroristHunter9]

I use sabres

Ya I was wondering WTF you were using today! Trigger I can honestly say your one of the best snipers I've gone up against. Now could you tell the rest of your team to STOP BLOWING UP OUR BASE!!!! lol j/ping That's what happens when your uber agressive. Good playing against ya, looking forward to seeing you on the other side of the scope.

[Trigger III]

LOL, np ty for the compliment. See you out there soon.

[DaHool]

I got 2x2 sabres and go 160, with very good accuracy on all distances. It's a very good build, the con is the reload time but you'll just have to time your shots a little bit better then ;)

[xxMMxx lucifer]

new to this forum, not new to the game. havent gotten to play in a couple months so i have just ben reading the forums,waiting. but i have a question....i decided to design a hound while waiting but cannot test it so i was juust curious if anyone else has tried to use this setup or just how ridiculous do yall think it sounds. as i said i wont be able to test it until i get my belongings weapons will be 4 sabs linked, 3 fleur linked, then 1f 1f

cpit- cnaml
legs-rj401
weapons- 4 sabers linked, 3 fleurets linked
gen-gkala
mob d-mc saba
weap d-tc ithnan
stab d-backus

also curious about linking the 4 sabers. i think it can be done with testing, but if it cannot plz let me know. thank you

[Cobra N]

Personally I'd drop one Sabre, must be hard to keep 4 grouped, then go for a Dabbur c-pit (more durable) and RJ400's - Increased speed AND durability, you could then also drop on the SD-AYN long range thermal which can be helpful spotting enemies at a distance

[DaHool]

new to this forum, not new to the game. havent gotten to play in a couple months so i have just ben reading the forums,waiting. but i have a question....i decided to design a hound while waiting but cannot test it so i was juust curious if anyone else has tried to use this setup or just how ridiculous do yall think it sounds. as i said i wont be able to test it until i get my belongings weapons will be 4 sabs linked, 3 fleur linked, then 1f 1f

cpit- cnaml
legs-rj401
weapons- 4 sabers linked, 3 fleurets linked
gen-gkala
mob d-mc saba
weap d-tc ithnan
stab d-backus

also curious about linking the 4 sabers. i think it can be done with testing, but if it cannot plz let me know. thank you

Shouldn't link 4 sabres, that will make you hit anything but the target :|

[TerroristHunter9]

Shouldn't link 4 sabres, that will make you hit anything but the target :|

Trust me it can be done, Trigger III does it with a wicked effect.

[PenguinmanAU]

i got 2 ,3 set linked sabres that give me no recoil whatsoever with 180 stability

[FerretsofDeath]

Speed and stability are both of the utmost importance. "Aim stability" Is worthless.

I personally use Nueman for speed, the 140 stability Morskoj 3-slot stability chip, and the Sal Kar 1-slot weapon chip.

Actually there is a huge difference.

The higher your aim stability on your chip is, the less kickback you recieve from firing a grouped shot. My current kickass sniper has 4 Epees linked, and all four fire and converge perfectly from medium to long distance.

[Helios2291]

The best way to test your firing groups is to start with a quad with high stability with a Backus. (298 on the Morskoj 211 I think). With this, basically any shot group won't have kickback. After that scale back the legs until you reach a stability amount that still offers the precision you want. Although eventually, you will find yourself at the Morskoj 401 Inverses. Just be prepared to go a bit slower. I prefer the mobility of the Jamal or Naqa going 170 over going 130 on the Morskoj heavy inverses.

[GEIST187]

WHAT IS THE BEST SNIPER SET UP THEN !!!! WHAT IS A GOOD SNIPER CANNON ,:):):):) PIT , LEGS ,EXTC.
!!!!!!!!!

[Stryx]

Well lately I've been doing a lot of testing with snipers, and well the truth is that there is no one answer to that. I have successfully built 7 different types of dominant snipers, all for different skills and needs. For instance, I have one sniper that can get 1 shot kills almost every time and it is very tough to kill, but the guns die easily, it is rather slow and it has a low ammo count. But then again, I have a lighter sniper that will kill with a few shots and has a lighter cockpit, but it is fast, protected, and a high ammo count. In the end, it all just depends on the type of sniper you are (precision, rapid, or built), and the HOUNDs that you will be playing with. If you'd like, I can get you a couple sniper builds that work really well. Hope this helps, later bro.

[Outlaw]

WHAT IS THE BEST SNIPER SET UP THEN !!!! WHAT IS A GOOD SNIPER CANNON , PIT , LEGS ,EXTC.
!!!!!!!!!

This is my current sniper build, which is clearly based on the "drinking bird" quad-cannon design...works great!

Chassis: RJ-Naga
Six-way Spacer: MSK-SP200
Angle Spacer: MSK-SP500
Generator: G-Sal Kar
C-Pit: M07K Brooke
Radiator: RD-Buhayra
Thermal Sensor: SD-Ayn
Sniper Cannon: M04SC Epee (4)

Mobility Com: M02MC Neumann
Weapon Com: TC Ithnan
Stability Com: MSK-RC1500

Speed: 166
Effect Time: 21

Cheesy Photo --> http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o240/NMoretta/Chromehounds/Epee-Sniper.jpg