Metal gear Solid 4: Coming to Xbox 360-Officially

[Borderline Retarded]

this came pretty much from the horse's mouth, so you can count on this being legit. http://www.noooz.com/archives/2006/12/exclusive_metal_gear_solid_4_c.html

Un freakin believable!

[ShadowLegend]

lol rrrrrright.

Not saying it's impossible but this is not a source...at all.

[Mighty]

I think I'll wait for a more reliable sourse...

[madder128]

this came pretty much from the horse's mouth, so you can count on this being legit. http://www.noooz.com/archives/2006/12/exclusive_metal_gear_solid_4_c.html

Un freakin believable!
hope its true.

[nate]

This makes too much sense to be from Konami.

[ZCalypso]

oh man i hope its true oh man that would change everything but we shall see, i also need a more reliable source but hey look at Assasins Creed, Dark Sector, and SKATE they were all supposed to be for the PS3 and now they are for the 360 so i cant wait :wink:

[yusaku]

I'm with ShadowLegend and Mighty on this one. Not credible.

[Nuckles87]

Well, I checked around his site. If he lied about video game news, this'd be the first time in awhile.

I agree though, it isn't credible enough to take with anything but a grain of salt. We should know in a week.

But if it's true.....then ****. This is pretty much the driving force behind my PS3 ownership. Well, that and the eBay monies. But as you guys know, PS3 can't fetch much on eBay anymore.

[nate]

One down one to go. Hopefully Capcom will move Devil May Cry to XB360, I don't want to have to buy a PS3.

[Misfits Fiend]

One down one to go. Hopefully Capcom will move Devil May Cry to XB360, I don't want to have to buy a PS3.
I don't want to have to buy a PS3 either....unless it becomes economically affordable. Anyway, if this were true, it would hurt the PS3's sales and reputation. MGS4 was supposed to be the defining game for the PS3, the reason why you should pay $599 for one. If the same basic game with similar graphics can be ported to a machine that's $200 less, then Microsoft will be laughing all the way to the bank. Seriously, no sane person will pay $200 extra to get a version of a game that slightly less jaggier.
It's also worth pointing out that if this is true, it will be one of quite a few losses for Sony this generation. They already lost their semi-exclusive GTA games. The Dragon Quest series is back on Nintendo systems now, and now they might lose another big exclusive game.

[Jax]

One down one to go. Hopefully Capcom will move Devil May Cry to XB360, I don't want to have to buy a PS3.

Then they would have to put 1-3 on it too.

[nate]

Then they would have to put 1-3 on it too.

Hows come? I'm pretty sure the XB360 will capture more PS2 gamers than the PS3 will... in America at least.

XB360 remakes of DMC 1&3 would be great, I would love for that to happen.

[pirovash88]

if this news is true than that is some bad@ss news.

[Shadows Chick]

One down one to go. Hopefully Capcom will move Devil May Cry to XB360, I don't want to have to buy a PS3.
VF5 PLZ SEGA :oops:

[madder128]

One down one to go. Hopefully Capcom will move Devil May Cry to XB360, I don't want to have to buy a PS3.
VF5 PLZ SEGA :oops:
Yeh VF5 sega.

[Headlock88]

if this is on other sites it may be true if not I say dont bother. :roll:

[Camron Kosciozko]

If it ends up being true, thats a huge blow to Sony, and big win for Microsoft.

I havent been a fan of the series for awhile, so i still probably wouldnt get it. But if there is a demo which there most likely will be, i will try it and if its good, ill defintely buy it.

[nate]

If it ends up being true, thats a huge blow to Sony, and big win for Microsoft.

I havent been a fan of the series for awhile, so i still probably wouldnt get it. But if there is a demo which there most likely will be, i will try it and if its good, ill defintely buy it.

You didn't like MGS3?

[SEGAFan 3000DC]

Through some slip ups i found out i'm getting a 360 for Christmas, and i'm a new fan to the series after playing 1&2 earlier this year. So I can only hope its true. It's hard to say with Konomi, but it would be a very smart move for the revenue they could make for making it for both consoles. They've jumped around in the past already, MGS remake for cube, Silent Hill 3 skipped Xbox but 2&4 made it. a 360 port would probably hurt the PS3 in japan too. since the 360 is cheaper, the 360 alternative would give the 360 yet another boost after blue dragon.

[Camron Kosciozko]

If it ends up being true, thats a huge blow to Sony, and big win for Microsoft.

I havent been a fan of the series for awhile, so i still probably wouldnt get it. But if there is a demo which there most likely will be, i will try it and if its good, ill defintely buy it.

You didn't like MGS3?

I played through alot of the first. Then i tried some of the 2nd, and i was confused by what was going on. I never tried the 3rd.

[nate]

If you didn't care for the first then I guess it just isn't your thing. If you did like the first I would reccomend the third without a doubt.

MGS2 was a train wreck, MGS3 is not like that at all. MGS3 is better in every conceivable way.

[Misfits Fiend]

If you didn't care for the first then I guess it just isn't your thing. If you did like the first I would reccomend the third without a doubt.

MGS2 was a train wreck, MGS3 is not like that at all. MGS3 is better in every conceivable way.
MGS 2 wasn't bad. It just had cut scenes that were too long, a not-so-good plot, and some of the dumbest scripting in vidoe game history: "I'm afraid of the night! That's why I can't sleep next to you." Then there's "We stayed up all night in your apartment watching King Kong." :lol:

[Camron Kosciozko]

It felt more like watching a movie than playing a game. Thats sortve how i feel with MGS4. All people keep saying, and all people are amazed about, is watching these 15 minute long cutscenes.

Thats why im saying, i'll reserve judgement until gameplay. If i want to sit there and watch long scenes with stupid dialogue, i'll watch a Jay and Silent Bob movie.

[Saxon69]

Metal Gear Solid is garbage.

:P

[Borderline Retarded]

MGS3 :):):):):) MGS1 and kills MGS2

[nate]

Thats why im saying, i'll reserve judgement until gameplay. If i want to sit there and watch long scenes with stupid dialogue, i'll watch a Jay and Silent Bob movie.

I agree. Those trailors don't tell us anything, really.

[Misfits Fiend]

Yeah, that's one thing I always feared about MGS4. It might have too much story telling and not enough actual fun. Kojima did a great job with MGS 3. It was funm gameplay elements were added and the storyline was edited much better than MGS2. He saved the longest cut scenes for the beginning and the end of the game and the other cut scenes didn't get in the way of the action. Unlike MGS2, you got to play the game when you wanted to. I hope MGS 4 is like MGS3, only better.

[Borderline Retarded]

Joystiq finds out the truth! http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/17/heightened-rumor-metal-gear-solid-4-not-a-ps3-exclusive/

[THEno1SonicFreak/Fan]

Seems true to me, but I'm not going to get my hopes up cuz I could care less about this game, I'll just get it free anyways if it does come to the 360. the only reason y I would want thison the 360 cuz the PS3 is a piece of $h!t.

[Misfits Fiend]

Alright, so kind of like GTA: San Andreas, this game may be exclusive to Sony's console for a few months, but for different reasons obviously. This is the exact reason why Capcom ported Resident Evil 4 to the PS2.
Well, anyway, at this point, Sony fanboys should be singing that song Another one bites the dust. :lol:

[straycat]

If you didn't care for the first then I guess it just isn't your thing. If you did like the first I would reccomend the third without a doubt.

MGS2 was a train wreck, MGS3 is not like that at all. MGS3 is better in every conceivable way.

Besides the fact you played as Solid Snake for a grand total of about 20 min in MGS2

[nate]

Besides the fact you played as Solid Snake for a grand total of about 20 min in MGS2

Indeed. Snake is one of the major reasons I play MGS, I like him. Raiden had sort of an FFX Titus thing going on, not good.

[Misfits Fiend]

If you didn't care for the first then I guess it just isn't your thing. If you did like the first I would reccomend the third without a doubt.

MGS2 was a train wreck, MGS3 is not like that at all. MGS3 is better in every conceivable way.

Besides the fact you played as Solid Snake for a grand total of about 20 min in MGS2
If Raiden weren't so annoying, it wouldn't have been as bad. Also, technically, you don't play as Snake in Metal Gear Solid 3. You play as Big Boss, who just happens to look like Snake, sound like him, and have the code name snake.
So, here's a tricky question for you guys. Who do enjoy taking the role of the most, Solid Snake, Raiden, or Big Boss?

[nate]

Hmmm, I guess Solid Snake.

MGS is all about being a bad hombre, and since Solid Snake (seems to have) killed Big Boss that makes him a badder hombre I suppose. I like the story from MGS (PS1) the best of the three as well, Konami did a great job of making an action hero into a great character.

[Misfits Fiend]

I think I like Big Boss more than any of them. I think it's his backround story that does it for me. He's like Darth Vader in many ways. He starts out as a patriotic soldier who would do anything for his country and because of actions taken by his own Government, slowly transforms into a warlord and an international terrorist. He's like the good guy and the bad guy. Like Darth Vader, he is also a very sad character.

[Shadows Chick]

I would love to see Remakes of Metal Gear I and II, Snake vs Big Boss = Win.

[Saxon69]

If you didn't care for the first then I guess it just isn't your thing. If you did like the first I would reccomend the third without a doubt.

MGS2 was a train wreck, MGS3 is not like that at all. MGS3 is better in every conceivable way.

Besides the fact you played as Solid Snake for a grand total of about 20 min in MGS2
If Raiden weren't so annoying, it wouldn't have been as bad. Also, technically, you don't play as Snake in Metal Gear Solid 3. You play as Big Boss, who just happens to look like Snake, sound like him, and have the code name snake.
So, here's a tricky question for you guys. Who do enjoy taking the role of the most, Solid Snake, Raiden, or Big Boss?

Awe jeez, thanks for spoiling the plot of the whole game!

Not that I care though, it's still garbage :twisted:

[Nuckles87]

Metal Gear Solid owns you, boon.

[physalis17]

Yeah definitely will wait to hear from gamespot or ign. That would be too big a story not to hear all over the web.

Still, it would be awesome to see MGS4 on the 360. There would be no reason in my mind to get a PS3 if this happened.

[Misfits Fiend]

If you didn't care for the first then I guess it just isn't your thing. If you did like the first I would reccomend the third without a doubt.

MGS2 was a train wreck, MGS3 is not like that at all. MGS3 is better in every conceivable way.

Besides the fact you played as Solid Snake for a grand total of about 20 min in MGS2
If Raiden weren't so annoying, it wouldn't have been as bad. Also, technically, you don't play as Snake in Metal Gear Solid 3. You play as Big Boss, who just happens to look like Snake, sound like him, and have the code name snake.
So, here's a tricky question for you guys. Who do enjoy taking the role of the most, Solid Snake, Raiden, or Big Boss?

Awe jeez, thanks for spoiling the plot of the whole game!

Not that I care though, it's still garbage :twisted:
I didn't spoil anything. That was well known prior to MGS3's release.

[straycat]

If Raiden weren't so annoying, it wouldn't have been as bad.

Well there it is. If you played as Snake it would have been awesome. Hearing Raiden constantly whine about not wanting to kill people and having his idiotic girlfriend (or something) call you every 7 min for 3 hours sucks. MGS2 is the only Metal Gear game I haven't finished 10 + times. Just thinking of it makes me not want to play.


So, here's a tricky question for you guys. Who do enjoy taking the role of the most, Solid Snake, Raiden, or Big Boss?
As much as I liked playing as Snake, playing as Big Boss was freakin awesome. There's really not much difference gameplay wise seeing as Snake is a clone of Big Boss. But I did like the fact since it was set 30 + years earlier that the technology wasn't there. The old clunky sniper rifle to the AK47 as opposed the some wrist controlled missile really made you approach the game in a different way.

[pirovash88]

i thought all three games were good. the second was lame because of raiden but you learn to get used to him and it seems that we will be seeing more of him in mgs4 as well.

[Misfits Fiend]

i thought all three games were good. the second was lame because of raiden but you learn to get used to him and it seems that we will be seeing more of him in mgs4 as well.
Yeas, but he goes through a major personality change in MGS4. Besides, MGS2 was good, but at the same time, it had a lot more issues than Raiden.

[Descartes]

E3 2007. If it's not anounced then it ain't happening.

[Shadows Chick]

I don't think Hideo will announce a port to 360 till after the game comes to PS3, just because his friends with Sony, If its ported its Konami not him.

[physalis17]

Well there it is. If you played as Snake it would have been awesome. Hearing Raiden constantly whine about not wanting to kill people and having his idiotic girlfriend (or something) call you every 7 min for 3 hours sucks. MGS2 is the only Metal Gear game I haven't finished 10 + times. Just thinking of it makes me not want to play.

Sons of Liberty was actually my favorite of the Metal Gears. I didn't care for MGS3's open ended environment or how Snake looked like well Snake from Escape From LA.

That brings up an interesting discussion. Which Snake came first? Hideo Kojima's or John Carpenter's?

[straycat]

Well Escape from LA came out about 8 years after the original Metal Gear. And Snake and Big Boss already had their basic looks defined.


Don't get me wrong SOL had some great moments and some great some boss fights, but it also had some duds and terrible boss fights. A fat boss on rollerskates you had to chase around and defuse bombs at the same time? Lame. I mean when you're used to fighting Vulcan Raven or The Chopper in the first game, its on the edge of your seat exciting. Of course the sniper battle in MGS3 wasn't MUCH better.

[Misfits Fiend]

The more modern Snake was actually based on Snake from the Escape movies. 20 years ago, he was supposed to resemble the guy from Terminator. Then when the original Metal Gear 2 was released on the MSX, Snake was made to look like Mel Gibson. Now, he looks like Snake Plissken. It's also funny to point out that in the Metal Gear 2, Big Boss had a resemblence to Sean Connery.

[SEGAFan 3000DC]

last night on G4's attack of the show, in the section called "the feed" they reported on this rumor. Konomi told them that the game is still currently PS3 exclusive.

With all the buzz this created not to mention the steam 360 is gaining, not to mention a definite high demand on 360, i wouldn't be too surprised to see it on 360 maybe as MGS4: Subwhatever when and if they do it :wink:

[nate]

Sons of Liberty was actually my favorite of the Metal Gears. I didn't care for MGS3's open ended environment or how Snake looked like well Snake from Escape From LA.

!

You actually like metro-emo-prepubescent characters like Raiden? Snake is cliche but at least he isn't obnoxious.

I suggest you watch daytime soap operas. Days of Our Lives would be right up your ally I think. :lol:

[Gideon]

I am guessing you never saw escape from new york then which came out in the early eighties

[Misfits Fiend]

Sons of Liberty was actually my favorite of the Metal Gears. I didn't care for MGS3's open ended environment or how Snake looked like well Snake from Escape From LA.

!

You actually like metro-emo-prepubescent characters like Raiden? Snake is cliche but at least he isn't obnoxious.

I suggest you watch daytime soap operas. Days of Our Lives would be right up your ally I think. :lol:
Metal Gear Solid 2 isn't bad as a game but it's cast is. You had a fat bomb building maniac on roller skates, a bi-sexual vampire who had an affair his his mistresses father, a nerdy guy who was suduced by his step mother, an emotional girly man like Raiden who has his crotch grabbed by another man thinking he might not be a man at all.....oh, and his girlfriend who was keeping secrets from him.

Yep, Metal Gear Solid 2 had the cast of the Jerry Springer Show. :lol:

[pirovash88]

I don't think Hideo will announce a port to 360 till after the game comes to PS3, just because his friends with Sony, If its ported its Konami not him.

hey we thought capcom was loyal to nintendo and they announced that RE4 would be released for the ps2 before the game was even done for the cube.

[Misfits Fiend]

I don't think Hideo will announce a port to 360 till after the game comes to PS3, just because his friends with Sony, If its ported its Konami not him.

hey we thought capcom was loyal to nintendo and they announced that RE4 would be released for the ps2 before the game was even done for the cube.
Yeah, it was Shinji Mikami, not Capcom who was loyal to Nintendo.

[Deus.EXE]

20 years ago, he was supposed to resemble the guy from Terminator.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/StroutX/SolidSnakeBiehn.jpg
:D


Oddly... that was a big thing for Konami back in the day...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v311/StroutX/ArnoldContra2.jpg
:?

[Descartes]

The thing with SOL is that it's suposed to be like that. It's suposed to be a failure.

***SPOILER***










You see how Big Boss' real name is Jack right? And Raiden's name is Jack too? And then you have the similar backgrounds on all 3 of them: All 3 get betrayed by their mentors, the war history, etc. They aren't the same but similar.

The thing with SOL is that in the start they try to to make us think that Raiden's story is a failed experiment to replicate the events on Shadow Mosses (presumably to justify how Snake could defeat Liquid despite having the recesive genes of Big Boss). And so they set it up, they give you a lone man mision against a group of ex-military freak terrorist comaned by someone with Big Boss' genes in them (Solidus). They also give a sentimental attachment, a time deadline, etc. But the convulated proces a lot of things turn out different. That's when they realize that it wasn't just about trying to manipulate this events, but all events.

SOL is sort of a Cyber Punk drama where information control is the hot topic and you as the player get sucked in and loose track on purpose. Because what you see doesn't necesarily mean is the truth. That's the idea behind the game.

****Spoiler END****

[Misfits Fiend]

The thing with SOL is that it's suposed to be like that. It's suposed to be a failure.

***SPOILER***










You see how Big Boss' real name is Jack right? And Raiden's name is Jack too? And then you have the similar backgrounds on all 3 of them: All 3 get betrayed by their mentors, the war history, etc. They aren't the same but similar.

The thing with SOL is that in the start they try to to make us think that Raiden's story is a failed experiment to replicate the events on Shadow Mosses (presumably to justify how Snake could defeat Liquid despite having the recesive genes of Big Boss). And so they set it up, they give you a lone man mision against a group of ex-military freak terrorist comaned by someone with Big Boss' genes in them (Solidus). They also give a sentimental attachment, a time deadline, etc. But the convulated proces a lot of things turn out different. That's when they realize that it wasn't just about trying to manipulate this events, but all events.

SOL is sort of a Cyber Punk drama where information control is the hot topic and you as the player get sucked in and loose track on purpose. Because what you see doesn't necesarily mean is the truth. That's the idea behind the game.

****Spoiler END****
Yeah, that's true, but do you think it could have been done without the Jerry Springer characters?

[yusaku]

Well, here's the latest update on this matter:

http://games.kikizo.com/news/200612/072.asp



Konami Scuppers Talk of Xbox 360 MGS4

The only place you're going to find Snake's next-gen adventure is on the PS3 - or so it seems.

The PlayStation 3 is a big deal right now not because of the games on shelves but rather the promise of those to come. One of the biggest lures is Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, which Konami has reaffirmed will not be going anywhere else.

Rumours sprang up earlier this month that perhaps Metal Gear Solid 4 would be coming to Xbox 360 too - a first, since no console Metal Gear Solid game has ever debuted on a non-Sony system.

Konami put paid to that jabber. A representative told CVG this week that, "Konami has no plans to bring Metal Gear Solid 4 to the Xbox 360 at this time," and said the game was currently exclusive to the PlayStation 3.

Cynics will pounce on the language of the statement, fingering the "at this time" as support for their doubts. They have good reason.

The dawning of the next console age has brought with it a downturn in the number of platform exclusives. A Newsweek article recently put the blame on PlayStation boss Ken Kutaragi, who had reportedly been tardy in negotiating exclusives with publishers. Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed, for instance, could well have been Sony's own had it pounced earlier.

The size of the audience will be a deciding factor. The PlayStation 3 is so far off to a slow start, mostly because Sony has been hampered by parts shortages. The company has since claimed that all production issues have been resolved.

Alex Wollenschlaeger
Editor, Kikizo

[Nuckles87]

And for the record, that is the exact same statement Ubisoft used for Assassin's Creed. We all know what happened a month later.

Konami is likely just not ready to announce it, or is still weighing their options, non?

[Silverevilchao]

And for the record, that is the exact same statement Ubisoft used for Assassin's Creed. We all know what happened a month later.

Konami is likely just not ready to announce it, or is still weighing their options, non?

Yeah, and seeing how Sega was harping weeks ago about how it was easier to port Virtua Fighter 5 on the PS3, this game will probably get ported to 360, too. :lol:

[Descartes]

The thing with SOL is that it's suposed to be like that. It's suposed to be a failure.

***SPOILER***










You see how Big Boss' real name is Jack right? And Raiden's name is Jack too? And then you have the similar backgrounds on all 3 of them: All 3 get betrayed by their mentors, the war history, etc. They aren't the same but similar.

The thing with SOL is that in the start they try to to make us think that Raiden's story is a failed experiment to replicate the events on Shadow Mosses (presumably to justify how Snake could defeat Liquid despite having the recesive genes of Big Boss). And so they set it up, they give you a lone man mision against a group of ex-military freak terrorist comaned by someone with Big Boss' genes in them (Solidus). They also give a sentimental attachment, a time deadline, etc. But the convulated proces a lot of things turn out different. That's when they realize that it wasn't just about trying to manipulate this events, but all events.

SOL is sort of a Cyber Punk drama where information control is the hot topic and you as the player get sucked in and loose track on purpose. Because what you see doesn't necesarily mean is the truth. That's the idea behind the game.

****Spoiler END****
Yeah, that's true, but do you think it could have been done without the Jerry Springer characters?

Maybe, but I think the over the top characters help out to cement just how ridiculous the situation really is.

As for MGS4 on X360... I don't really think it's going to happen. Maybe if by next year the X360 keeps outselling (by a large marging) the PS3, then Konami might considere bringing MGS4: Substract (going with the "Sub" names) to it. The fact that MGS2:Substance didn't sell much on the original Xbox doesn't help. Heck, MGS:TS (NGC) sold around 500K copies just here on North America yet Konami didn't even bother thinking about porting Snake Eater to the NGC. Kojima himself said that he realized that Metal Gear games, simply put, sell better on PlayStation branded consoles.

[Nuckles87]

Different consoles, different generation, Descartes. Metal Gear Solid 4 will have a much larger development budget then MGS2, meaning it will likely have to sell a lot more units for it to be profitable. What better way to do that then to port it to another console where shooters and stealth games tend to do well?

An important thing to remember about MGS2 for Xbox, is that it came a year after the PS2 version. As I recall. that sold around 800k.

[Dreamcastpwns]

Different consoles, different generation, Descartes. Metal Gear Solid 4 will have a much larger development budget then MGS2, meaning it will likely have to sell a lot more units for it to be profitable. What better way to do that then to port it to another console where shooters and stealth games tend to do well?

An important thing to remember about MGS2 for Xbox, is that it came a year after the PS2 version. As I recall. that sold around 800k.

Look at Shenmue, its in the Guiness Book for the longest Dev period and from what I heard it had a high budget has well, but they couldn't turn a profit, why? Piracy without modification! Sony's Linux idea could cause the same thing.

But thats just a what if, I hope a port does materialize.

[Descartes]

Different consoles, different generation, Descartes. Metal Gear Solid 4 will have a much larger development budget then MGS2, meaning it will likely have to sell a lot more units for it to be profitable. What better way to do that then to port it to another console where shooters and stealth games tend to do well?

An important thing to remember about MGS2 for Xbox, is that it came a year after the PS2 version. As I recall. that sold around 800k.

MGS2 on Xbox 800K? I don't think so. More likely like 80k. Really, not many got it.

Yeah, multiplats will be more of a nomr this gen than ever. The industry has pushed itself into this situation where not going multiplat means not making the bucks. However there are some franchises that are just too tied up with a hardware brand. MGS is one of those not just because the producers like the PS brand, not just because Sony bribes Kojima all the time, but because MGS fanboys tend to buy MGS games on PS consoles.

I for one cannot imagine myself playing MGS4 on an X360 (even though I own MGS2 for PS2 and Xbox and PC LOL... don't ask why.)

[Nuckles87]

Different consoles, different generation, Descartes. Metal Gear Solid 4 will have a much larger development budget then MGS2, meaning it will likely have to sell a lot more units for it to be profitable. What better way to do that then to port it to another console where shooters and stealth games tend to do well?

An important thing to remember about MGS2 for Xbox, is that it came a year after the PS2 version. As I recall. that sold around 800k.

MGS2 on Xbox 800K? I don't think so. More likely like 80k. Really, not many got it.


I was refferring to the PS2 numbers, actually. From what I've been able to gather from what Namco said a few weeks ago, 500k was only enough to break even for Ridge Racer and Gundam, considerably smaller games. I don't like pretending to know things I don't about the industry, but I'm pretty sure it's safe to guess that MGS4 likely has considerably more development costs, as a result 800k might not even be enough.

Couple that with the fact that PS3 WON'T have as many units sold as PS2 did when MG2 came out for it, and the fact that MGS is much more popular franchise in America then Japan, and a port to 360 sounds like the smartest way to go if Konami wants to actually make money on this game.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Shadows Chick]

On Sony Format:

Metal Gear Solid 2,790,000
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 1,587,000
Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance 65,000
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 965,500
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence 143,500
Metal Gear Solid VR Missions 124,000

Metal Gear Acid 300,500
Metal Gear Acid 2 44,000

Nintendo
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes 137,000

Can't find the official numbers for Xbox game.

[Nuckles87]

On Sony Format:

Metal Gear Solid 2,790,000
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 1,587,000
Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance 65,000
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 965,500
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence 143,500
Metal Gear Solid VR Missions 124,000

Metal Gear Acid 300,500
Metal Gear Acid 2 44,000

Nintendo
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes 137,000

Can't find the official numbers for Xbox game.

Wow, I was way off. MGS2 has sold a lot since I last checked on it.

Edit: Are these worldwide numbers?

[junior]

No, they're not. Those are just the NA numbers.

I'm a proud owner of most of those games. :D

[Descartes]

On Sony Format:

Metal Gear Solid 2,790,000
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 1,587,000
Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance 65,000
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 965,500
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence 143,500
Metal Gear Solid VR Missions 124,000

Metal Gear Acid 300,500
Metal Gear Acid 2 44,000

Nintendo
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes 137,000

Can't find the official numbers for Xbox game.

I'm pretty sure the Xbox numbers are consistent with the MGS2:Substance numbers on the PS2 since those games are more of a limited release that get printed only once, maybe twice if they find some succes but they are there just for the hardcore as most people would not buy the same game twice despite the extra content.

So yeah, just look at the horrible sales on the other platforms. I don't think MGS does good on other consoles.

[Shadows Chick]

yeah that was USA only this is the Japan side:

Metal Gear Solid 783,250
Metal Gear Solid Integral 99,250
Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 845,250
Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 812,000
Metal Gear Solid 3: Subsistence 144,500

GB:
Metal Gear Ghost Babel 70,500

The Cube:
Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes 72,750

PSP:
Metal Gear Solid Comic Book 17,750
Metal Gear Acid 118,250
Metal Gear Acid 2 50,500

The only ones I found for Japan, Don't know Europes numbers though.

[zeronumber]

I for one cannot imagine myself playing MGS4 on an X360 (even though I own MGS2 for PS2 and Xbox and PC LOL... don't ask why.)

So you'd rather pay the extra cash to play a game that will in all likelyhood look and play better than the ps3 version? :?

[Shadows Chick]

:lol: oddly enough I have only owned MGS2 on PC and Xbox .. not PS2

[Descartes]

I for one cannot imagine myself playing MGS4 on an X360 (even though I own MGS2 for PS2 and Xbox and PC LOL... don't ask why.)

So you'd rather pay the extra cash to play a game that will in all likelyhood look and play better than the ps3 version? :?

In all likelyhood it will run better on PS3. The PS2 version of MGS2 is the only version that does not have slowdown...

[Misfits Fiend]

If marketed properly (that means both the game and console it's on), Metal Gear can sell on just about any system. Hideo Kojima says that the PlayStation brand is best for Metal Gear but if you really think about it, what system really caters to the PlayStation fans more, Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3? Remember, that the PlayStation fans are used to owning the system with the most 3rd party support, the best exclusive games and are used to buying games on a budget.
In my opinion, I think Xbox 360 combined with the Wii defines the PlayStation fan more than the PlayStation 3.

[Camron Kosciozko]

In my opinion, I think Xbox 360 combined with the Wii defines the PlayStation fan more than the PlayStation 3.

Thats why they are buying Wii's and 360's for christmas.

[Misfits Fiend]

In my opinion, I think Xbox 360 combined with the Wii defines the PlayStation fan more than the PlayStation 3.

Thats why they are buying Wii's and 360's for christmas.
Well, that and the fact that there aren't many PS3's to go around. I mean, if you think about it, there were plenty of people who had plans to purchase the PS3 right before it came out but had no idea how much it was gonna cost or they did but didn't care. But still, I think that the only thing PlayStation 3 has in common with the PS1 and PS2 is it's name and nothing else.

[Descartes]

IMO the PS3 became the hardcore consoles while the Xbox360 became the casual gamer console. For starters the price on the PS3 is not of the cusual type, it's hardcore all the way. The tech specs on the PS3 are stuff only a hardcore gamer/nerd/pc geek would care about (I mean, how many know what XDR or SPU stand for?). Only the hardcore would take the time to upgrade the HDD of their PS3 to a beefier one(something widely supported by Sony, unlike the X360...). Ony the hardcore would care that you can install linux, plug in a kb+mouse and make it into a full functioning PC. Only the hardcore care about the fact that the PS3 will accept any format you can toss at it be it .avi, .mpg4, .mp3... you name it, it supports it (unlike X360 that only accepts .wmv, .wma and mp3). Only the hardcore care about HDMI, Wi-Fi and multi format reader. Only the hardcore care that the PS3 is region free. Only the hardcore care about the fact that it can reproduce PCM soundtracks found on High-Def Movies (unlike X360 that's limited to Dolby 5.1). Only the hardcore care about the fact that thanks to it's BlueTooth capabilities the PS3 can interact with almost anything you have from earphones to cellphones to PDA's and what not.

Yes, only the hardcore would appreciate all this benefits and the few key titles that the console will have exclusively (only the hardcore would care for a studio named Factor 5 doing a game named Lair).

Meanwhile the X360 is casual all the way now. It of course appeals to HardCore gamers too because the games are defenetly there, but it takes a hardcore gamer to notice the subtle things that make the PS3 such a nice technichal masterpiece (Graphics aside, which are the same stuff than on X360).

[Silverevilchao]

(only the hardcore would care for a studio named Factor 5 doing a game named Lair)

YAY, I'm hardcore! :P

[zeronumber]

In all likelyhood it will run better on PS3. The PS2 version of MGS2 is the only version that does not have slowdown...

The main reason why mgs2 ran better is because it was optimised in design to render graphics and effects due to ps2's wiered rendering, since ps2 lacked normal rendering.

I doubt there would be the same problem when nvadia and ati chips render games almost exactly alike, and ps3's use nvadia graphic cards which is really nothing more than a updated card that the original xbox used.

Plus take into consideration 360 has stronger ram, I doubt the 360 version is going to be the one that has problems with slowdown.

[Misfits Fiend]

IMO the PS3 became the hardcore consoles while the Xbox360 became the casual gamer console. For starters the price on the PS3 is not of the cusual type, it's hardcore all the way. The tech specs on the PS3 are stuff only a hardcore gamer/nerd/pc geek would care about (I mean, how many know what XDR or SPU stand for?). Only the hardcore would take the time to upgrade the HDD of their PS3 to a beefier one(something widely supported by Sony, unlike the X360...). Ony the hardcore would care that you can install linux, plug in a kb+mouse and make it into a full functioning PC. Only the hardcore care about the fact that the PS3 will accept any format you can toss at it be it .avi, .mpg4, .mp3... you name it, it supports it (unlike X360 that only accepts .wmv, .wma and mp3). Only the hardcore care about HDMI, Wi-Fi and multi format reader. Only the hardcore care that the PS3 is region free. Only the hardcore care about the fact that it can reproduce PCM soundtracks found on High-Def Movies (unlike X360 that's limited to Dolby 5.1). Only the hardcore care about the fact that thanks to it's BlueTooth capabilities the PS3 can interact with almost anything you have from earphones to cellphones to PDA's and what not.

Yes, only the hardcore would appreciate all this benefits and the few key titles that the console will have exclusively (only the hardcore would care for a studio named Factor 5 doing a game named Lair).

Meanwhile the X360 is casual all the way now. It of course appeals to HardCore gamers too because the games are defenetly there, but it takes a hardcore gamer to notice the subtle things that make the PS3 such a nice technichal masterpiece (Graphics aside, which are the same stuff than on X360).
That's what I said a long time ago. For the past year, Sony's biggest mistake was that they were talking about the Cell processor, 1080p, and Blu Ray, while Microsoft and Nintendo were mostly talking about the games. Sony was alianating their own customers by doing this. Also, another thing. What's up with the sixaxis controller? Why did they call it that. At least "Dualshock" sounded cool. Sixaxis just sounds technical and boring. If anyone has learned anything from Apple, it's that cool and simple names sell a product best.
I don't know. I'm probably seen as someone who bashes the PS3 too often, but seriously, how many positive things can be said about the PS3 at this point. Sony did a lot of stupid things when designing the PS3. They did stupid things prior to launch. They totally screwed up the PS3 launch, and now some of the PS3's biggest titles are either heading to Xbox 360 or are probably heading to the 360. Oh, and unlike the PS2, the PS3's future isn't looking as bright as the Wii and 360. So, there isn't too many good things I can say about the PS3 other than how cool Resistance is supposed to be.

[Descartes]

In all likelyhood it will run better on PS3. The PS2 version of MGS2 is the only version that does not have slowdown...

The main reason why mgs2 ran better is because it was optimised in design to render graphics and effects due to ps2's wiered rendering, since ps2 lacked normal rendering.

I doubt there would be the same problem when nvadia and ati chips render games almost exactly alike, and ps3's use nvadia graphic cards which is really nothing more than a updated card that the original xbox used.

Plus take into consideration 360 has stronger ram, I doubt the 360 version is going to be the one that has problems with slowdown.

It's true that the problem will be the difference between the RSX and the Xenos... nope, the REAL problem will be the difference between the CELL and the Xenon. Asimetrical VS Simmetrical, SPU VS Multi-Core, Integrated Memory Controller VS Northbrige Memory controller, etc.

Since MGS4 is coded for the PS3 it is optimized to run under those circumstances. A port from the PS3 version to the PC or X360 would probably result in the same thing that happened with MGS2. The main problem being moving the code from an asimetrical architecture to a simetrical one.

[Michael1975]

Pros and Cons of the PS3:

+ Powerful CPU
+ Great Graphics chip from NVidia
+ High Capacity Media (Blu Ray)
+ Free Online
+ Strong name brand
+ Guaranteed at least some great games for the next two years

- Crippled local bus speed for CPU Reads (16MB/sec)
- Hard to code
- Expensive to produce
- Limited support for Blu Ray formatt. (First generation films don't really look much better than their DVD counterparts)
- High price tag
- Key games being lost to competition
- Sketchy first party support at launch. (Nearly all launch titles are third party with only a few being actually exclusive)
- Bad PR on the part of head Execs
- Seems like it is too geared towards early adopters than the mainstream consumer. (How many people actually have HDMI capable TV's in their homes? On the average I mean.)
- Has many feature that simply won't get used by the average owner. (How many of us actually use the USB ports on the PS2? Did anybody on here ever use the firewire port?)
- Has difficulties with many PS2 games and many PS1 games suffer sound and loading problems. Others simply don't play at all. The ones that do play seem to work fine, which leads to alot of hit or miss guess work on the part of the consumer.

(Trade in your PS2 only to find out that some of your favorite games won't play on the new machine. That's annoying, no matter how you slice it.) Same goes for XBox 360, which is why I plan on waiting a year or two before getting either one.

If I buy a new machine anytime soon, it'll probably be the Wii.
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