Gator or Trigger?

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What do you think is better? I really dont know much about ither so i cant vote myself

[*Zaha Torte*]

I voted Gator because it is a good, all-purpose sniper.

To give you an idea on them, I'll describe them so you can judge yourself.

The Gator was built by a member of the former Team SPK (now Havoc Unit) who was testing the idea of keeping four powerful SC200s grouped tightly on the fast Naqas. The Gator was the result.

Keeping all four SC200s at hip level and the recoil of one gun cancelling the recoil of the other, it comes out very accurate, even at extended ranges. 19 rounds, 4 SC200s being the strongest sniper second only to the Sabers, it is a very lethal build (these snipers take 11.5 seconds to reload, Sabers take 17. Big difference). It sports a heavy pit and can take a beating, and still moves approximately 152 with the correct chipset. Lethal build in the right hands.

The Trigger is the epitome of all snipers as far as raw, brute force is conserned. Slower than the Gator, and not so heavily armored (peanut pit), it sports the firepower no other sniper can compare to. 4 Sabers with extended ammo (8 rounds) pack in a very tight grouping at very long range. To compliment due to the Saber's long reload time, there are another two Sabers (3 for free battle) with extended ammo grouped tightly together on the other side of the hound that can launch a second volley of powerful rounds while the first one reloads. It moves approximately 124-125 with the proper chipset, which isn't by any means impressive, but it is still faster than a quad sniper, meaning this beast can still get into position for shots reliably smoothly. If you are a keen shot and can control your ammo, this sniper is powerful.

That about sums it up.

Gators are used more for the disabling sniper. The type that will strip off enemy guns, generator, chassis, ect and assist allies with faster reloading snipers on the field. It can one-shot enemies as the SC200s are powerful cannons, but it has better uses.

The Trigger is made for the instant-kill. One shot, kill, move on to the next target. Its raw power cannot be denied. It is not made to waist ammo on guns or other parts, rather it is made to kill the enemy as efficiently as possible (8 rounds is not a lot to make use of, the Gators have over double that). Should not be attempted by any but the skilled sniper.

[sledge2594]

Gator. o_O

[bebfett2]

gator

[InsomniacsDream]

Cobra's new hound :D

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Cobra's new hound :D


You mean that crapy cobra n one?

[InsomniacsDream]

Crappy o.0 If you tweak it right it's about as accurate as a Trigger, if not more so :D The center of gravity on Naqa's is higher I guess :S That or my trigger needs some more remodeling o.0

P.S. It is EXTREMELY accurate from about 1000m with sabres :D

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Crappy o.0 If you tweak it right it's about as accurate as a Trigger, if not more so :D The center of gravity on Naqa's is higher I guess :S That or my trigger needs some more remodeling o.0

P.S. It is EXTREMELY accurate from about 1000m with sabres :D

Its ither i didnt get the cobra right or somthing but for me it wasnt as accurate as a Trigger

[InsomniacsDream]

Well did you even get it PM'd to you? Not to mention, he might have a dulled down one for non-squads :S Not sure... oh, and SC200's have a LOT more kick than Sabres, in case you didn't use those... that or maybe I can just get my barrels tighter with Sabres :P

[fkngrvn]

Well did you even get it PM'd to you? Not to mention, he might have a dulled down one for non-squads :S Not sure... oh, and SC200's have a LOT more kick than Sabres, in case you didn't use those... that or maybe I can just get my barrels tighter with Sabres :P

Guess Cobra doesn't like 626..... :?

[InsomniacsDream]

I don't blame him, last time 8th played you guys all we saw were shottie hounds and GL hounds :S While I must admit, your terrain use and teamwork were far greater than ours, it IS kind of annoying to see a squad that complains about shotties being so powerful use them, and ONLY shotguns... well GLs too but you used those to mop up any of our brawlers... wasn't too fun...

[fkngrvn]

I don't blame him, last time 8th played you guys all we saw were shottie hounds and GL hounds :S While I must admit, your terrain use and teamwork were far greater than ours, it IS kind of annoying to see a squad that complains about shotties being so powerful use them, and ONLY shotguns... well GLs too but you used those to mop up any of our brawlers... wasn't too fun...

I believe the complaint was specifically towards those who took advantage of the mariokart tactic. We never criticized what FROM wants us to use. Shotguns were the uber weapon in the last patch, it was Stupid not to use them.

Look at the evidence supporting the use of the Shotgun.....TF6-26 was unstoppable 95% of the time.

I am glad you brought up the other important rule in this game...........

[InsomniacsDream]

If it was, it was implied, and the fact still stands, most if not all of 626 was using shotguns, though they bashed them repeatedly... Not saying it wasn't true that the shotties were overpowered, but it is rather hypocritical, and as I had said before, annoying that one of the "skilled" squads would be using ONLY shotguns :S

[*Zaha Torte*]

If it was, it was implied, and the fact still stands, most if not all of 626 was using shotguns, though they bashed them repeatedly... Not saying it wasn't true that the shotties were overpowered, but it is rather hypocritical, and as I had said before, annoying that one of the "skilled" squads would be using ONLY shotguns :S

It isn't hypocritical at all.

I hate espionage as a means of victory in war. I find it dishonorable, and a poor way to win.

So why is it I am career military intelligence? I do that for a living, for crying out loud.

Regardless of your feelings on the matter, you do what you must to achieve victory.

626 didn't do a damn thing wrong, nor are they hypocritical. They hated what the game became, but adapted accordingly.

All they did was voice their opinions on what they were forced to do from the insane patch.

[InsomniacsDream]

Hypocritical (just to clarify) means to complain about something that you are doing yourself... Complaining about shotguns, yet using them, is hypocritical :P

While I admit that shotguns were the overpowering weapon, I arrogantly went on sniping... and you know what? I can now hit a moving target with ease :P Well, not so true anymore, though it IS much easier :P With the higher velocity I've been overleading... putting rounds right in front of them... :S

But I understand where you are coming from... just like I said, I find it kind of annoying. 8th isn't even classified as a skilled squad, because we are still just working on our piloting skill and have yet to work on any actual squad tactics (such as fighting tactics)... Kind of annoying as well :P but hey, thats how it goes... Anyways, we still use what we have, cannons if we were cannoneers, snipers use snipers, soldiers use soldier weapons (HEAT rockets and Shotguns, as well as grenades were the preferred...)... but the overall idea was still the same... we had our roles mapped out how we wanted them, and never took nothing BUT shotguns... Still worked against several squads, and had you taken "normal" hounds, I'm sure the outcome would have been just the same...

Not trying to pick a fight, just voicing an honest opinion about something I actually find somewhat funny :P

[*Zaha Torte*]

Hypocritical (just to clarify) means to complain about something that you are doing yourself... Complaining about shotguns, yet using them, is hypocritical :P

Ah... Then being in military intelligence I am automatically classified as a hypocrite?

I know that in order to achieve victory, particular things must be done that I may not like or agree with. I'll do them anyway because they need done and save lives.

626 used shotguns because they knew they had to in order to stay on top and win. However, they hated it as much as the next person.

They spoke against shotguns because they were forced to use them.

If you had to use your left hand to write a letter instead of your right due to injury, but you're adament you're a right hand user, are you hypocritical because you did something you didn't enjoy doing because you had to?

You're a little off in your reasoning.

[fkngrvn]

Hypocritical (just to clarify) means to complain about something that you are doing yourself... Complaining about shotguns, yet using them, is hypocritical :P

While I admit that shotguns were the overpowering weapon, I arrogantly went on sniping... and you know what? I can now hit a moving target with ease :P Well, not so true anymore, though it IS much easier :P With the higher velocity I've been overleading... putting rounds right in front of them... :S

But I understand where you are coming from... just like I said, I find it kind of annoying. 8th isn't even classified as a skilled squad, because we are still just working on our piloting skill and have yet to work on any actual squad tactics (such as fighting tactics)... Kind of annoying as well :P but hey, thats how it goes... Anyways, we still use what we have, cannons if we were cannoneers, snipers use snipers, soldiers use soldier weapons (HEAT rockets and Shotguns, as well as grenades were the preferred...)... but the overall idea was still the same... we had our roles mapped out how we wanted them, and never took nothing BUT shotguns... Still worked against several squads, and had you taken "normal" hounds, I'm sure the outcome would have been just the same...

Not trying to pick a fight, just voicing an honest opinion about something I actually find somewhat funny :P

Fine, you are voicing your opinions about what was implied. I stated previously what the specifics were as to what 626 did not like about the previous patch. We did not like the shotguns as employed by mariokarts. That was my main beef (others in 626 may hate the SG for other reasons), the fact that a squad could outmaneuver another by running around them and heading for their base. I though this was a little cheap.

Our counter......triple heaters, treaded grenades, and treaded/inverse SG hounds. Most of 626 hated the fact that the game was reduced to these three Hounds and nothing else. If you used something else, cool. We did not have much success with any other hounds. With the invention of the lowrider, the HVG role was returned to those who wanted to run another type of hound. But other than this, the uber builds were reduced to the three I stated previously.

Calling us hypocritical may be a little of a stretch....and to hold these accusations against us is a bit childish. I'm sorry that you 7th division boyz are not grown up enough to see this....Hope to see ya'll make a comeback. The game needs more squads to fight......

Peace..........:mrgreen:

[SwordoftheJedi]

How about something original?

[*Zaha Torte*]

You are definately entitled to using an original sniper.

Though, I haven't lost against an 'original' sniper in months using the standards.

[SwordoftheJedi]

I know, but it's never as much fun when you're going up against the same thing over and over.

[*Zaha Torte*]

I know, but it's never as much fun when you're going up against the same thing over and over.

Sure it is, because every pilot uses that same build differently.

In the military, because you're always going up against Iraqis using AK-47s, and you never see one using a state-of-the-art M107 from a thousand meters off, you'd be bored?

Naw, the end result is bullets are still flying at you.

I derive my enjoyment from outwitting my opponent in spite of what they use, not from seeing different works of art.

War is not art after all. It is dirty. Treat it as such.

[fkngrvn]

I know, but it's never as much fun when you're going up against the same thing over and over.

What, you don't like pilot skill to be the difference?

[SwordoftheJedi]

Of course pilot skill is important, but don't you like to see a little bit of originality? It's almost impossible for it to be effective now, which is a bit of a shame.

[*Zaha Torte*]

Of course pilot skill is important, but don't you like to see a little bit of originality? It's almost impossible for it to be effective now, which is a bit of a shame.

It makes no difference to me, really. I see an original build, I count it as an easy kill, and move on.

I treat this game as if it were war. Being in the military myself, that's easy for me to do.

With that in mind, originality is the last thing I worry about.

Edit: By the way, forgive me if I sound rude, it is not meant that way.

[fkngrvn]

Of course pilot skill is important, but don't you like to see a little bit of originality? It's almost impossible for it to be effective now, which is a bit of a shame.

Originality is a state of mind...not employing the best designs on the battlefield is a weakness and a disadvantage.

Why do you think the US attempts to maintain a technoligical superiority over all potential adversaries?

The same can be said here....why do you think people still play in the garage? It's because you never know when the next uber build will appear and just maybe, you were the one that helped contribute to the design.

[MLK_SPARTAN]

How about something original?

Again. Chromehounds is not a fashion show. Being original for the sake of being original or to satisfy your curiosity is just plain stupid.

I want to use the best tools available for the mission. The GATOR is the best basic fast sniper design out there.

Snipers are difficult builds to create. You will see less variance in them.

[SwordoftheJedi]

Well, it's obvious you wouldn't use a Hound just because it looks cool. I just wish it were possible to have an effective, original hound. I know that the basic Gator build is very good. And I don't waant originality to be only in Snipers, but in all classes. I know it doesn't work, I just wish it did.

[ed111]

I'd have to say other because the sabretooth = so much pain. nIf you don't believe me ask Malicious Wind. Or Spartan! Or natedmac...and the list grows on :shock:

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:D niceness this poll has gone into a whole new subject....I really dont care but if u do post here can u atleast take the poll or post somthing why you chose it?

[*Zaha Torte*]

:D niceness this poll has gone into a whole new subject....I really dont care but if u do post here can u atleast take the poll or post somthing why you chose it?

My very first post described (in a large depth) why I use the two snipers I do use.

LOL

[VTX xCaRnAgEx]

Well, it's obvious you wouldn't use a Hound just because it looks cool. I just wish it were possible to have an effective, original hound. I know that the basic Gator build is very good. And I don't waant originality to be only in Snipers, but in all classes. I know it doesn't work, I just wish it did.

This is a game of evolution. Originality happened in the first 4 to 6 months. Now the game is at the end of it's evolution so originality will cease to exist.

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Hey VTX xCaRnAgEx, what country do you and havoc unit play for?

[fkngrvn]

Hey VTX xCaRnAgEx, what country do you and havoc unit play for?

Sal Kar.....

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Hey VTX xCaRnAgEx, what country do you and havoc unit play for?

Sal Kar.....


ty,man

[Stu Brodie]

I dont get the hype behind the gator sniper design, lets make the weakest part of our hound the easiest part to hit? I mean even when i'm not aiming for the guns (which is most likely never) I'll probably still hit them just because they make up most of the profile on the hound.

Every gator snipe I've come across looks like a fireworks display after a couple volleys (usually starting with the first) as shooting into that big cluster almost ensures blowing one of the snipes off.

Sure they have survivabiliy as a whole, but what use is an average speed inverse with no guns?

They rock as a cannon design, but I fail to see how that translates to the sniper variant, maybe I'm missing something?

[ixnaydude]

I dont get the hype behind the gator sniper design, lets make the weakest part of our hound the easiest part to hit? I mean even when i'm not aiming for the guns (which is most likely never) I'll probably still hit them just because they make up most of the profile on the hound.

Every gator snipe I've come across looks like a fireworks display after a couple volleys (usually starting with the first) as shooting into that big cluster almost ensures blowing one of the snipes off.

Sure they have survivabiliy as a whole, but what use is an average speed inverse with no guns?

They rock as a cannon design, but I fail to see how that translates to the sniper variant, maybe I'm missing something?

The Gator sniper design puts 4 HE rounds on target at a range > 700 and that is what the point is. 4 HE rounds X 13xx penetration power each = 52xx total penetration power. How many CH parts are out there that ARE playable can withstand that much damage? Not too many and a 2nd volley would be the end of the mission. Sure there are other sniper designs out there that offer different tactics, but the Gator is a very powerful design. Besides, IIRC the Gator was originally designed as a sniper and NOT a cannon hound.
Sniper hounds stay far away from direct confrontation, unlike a cannon hound. Asking a sniper hound to get w/i 300 of the enemy is asking for lots and lots of trouble.

Ixnaydude

[InsomniacsDream]

As a sniper, you should often be able to dodge most shots taken on you. If not, then you should at least be able to stay far enough away to keep them from having the range.

The entire reason the gator is so great is this: it is versatile. You can do almost anything you want to do with it. Most other hounds during the Gator's creation didn't have the accuracy and the speed to match, so it didn't even have any enemies that COULD destroy one of it's guns... thus, the tactic of standing still, letting the enemy fire, and then killing them when their recoil stops them... a 4 for 1 tradeoff is pretty good if I say so myself, and 4 for 2 isn't bad either :P

[*Zaha Torte*]

I dont get the hype behind the gator sniper design, lets make the weakest part of our hound the easiest part to hit? I mean even when i'm not aiming for the guns (which is most likely never) I'll probably still hit them just because they make up most of the profile on the hound.

Every gator snipe I've come across looks like a fireworks display after a couple volleys (usually starting with the first) as shooting into that big cluster almost ensures blowing one of the snipes off.

Sure they have survivabiliy as a whole, but what use is an average speed inverse with no guns?

They rock as a cannon design, but I fail to see how that translates to the sniper variant, maybe I'm missing something?

The point of the gator is not how much damage it can take, but how much damage it can dish out with pinpoint accuracy from across the map and still pull off speeds above 150.

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Hi all

[fkngrvn]

I dont get the hype behind the gator sniper design, lets make the weakest part of our hound the easiest part to hit? I mean even when i'm not aiming for the guns (which is most likely never) I'll probably still hit them just because they make up most of the profile on the hound.

Every gator snipe I've come across looks like a fireworks display after a couple volleys (usually starting with the first) as shooting into that big cluster almost ensures blowing one of the snipes off.

Sure they have survivabiliy as a whole, but what use is an average speed inverse with no guns?

They rock as a cannon design, but I fail to see how that translates to the sniper variant, maybe I'm missing something?

The point of the gator is not how much damage it can take, but how much damage it can dish out with pinpoint accuracy from across the map and still pull off speeds above 150.


What Zaha said....besides you ever see two Gators hit the same target.....:mrgreen:

[InsomniacsDream]

Nope, nobody else in my squad normally runs a gator, and one is all you generally need for a kill shot :P

[MLK_SPARTAN]

I dont get the hype behind the gator sniper design, lets make the weakest part of our hound the easiest part to hit? I mean even when i'm not aiming for the guns (which is most likely never) I'll probably still hit them just because they make up most of the profile on the hound.

Every gator snipe I've come across looks like a fireworks display after a couple volleys (usually starting with the first) as shooting into that big cluster almost ensures blowing one of the snipes off.

Sure they have survivabiliy as a whole, but what use is an average speed inverse with no guns?

They rock as a cannon design, but I fail to see how that translates to the sniper variant, maybe I'm missing something?

Have you fought someone who knows how to handle a gator sniper?? If you have, you would never ask that question.

The brilliance of the gun placement is two fold: 1. VERY small profile. 2. EXTREMELY stable firing from that location.

The stability/recoil balance directly translates to a cannon hound as well. I haven't seen another 4xCN300 hound that fires like a cannon varient of the GATOR.

[MLK_SPARTAN]

I'd have to say other because the sabretooth = so much pain. nIf you don't believe me ask Malicious Wind. Or Spartan! Or natedmac...and the list grows on :shock:

Didn't really bother me at all. I have no problem fighting 401 snipers. One of my teammates would agree with me though :lol:

The build is brutal though if you're not paying attention.

[*Zaha Torte*]

I dont get the hype behind the gator sniper design, lets make the weakest part of our hound the easiest part to hit? I mean even when i'm not aiming for the guns (which is most likely never) I'll probably still hit them just because they make up most of the profile on the hound.

Every gator snipe I've come across looks like a fireworks display after a couple volleys (usually starting with the first) as shooting into that big cluster almost ensures blowing one of the snipes off.

Sure they have survivabiliy as a whole, but what use is an average speed inverse with no guns?

They rock as a cannon design, but I fail to see how that translates to the sniper variant, maybe I'm missing something?

Have you fought someone who knows how to handle a gator sniper?? If you have, you would never ask that question.

The brilliance of the gun placement is two fold: 1. VERY small profile. 2. EXTREMELY stable firing from that location.

The stability/recoil balance directly translates to a cannon hound as well. I haven't seen another 4xCN300 hound that fires like a cannon varient of the GATOR.

21st Armored CN hound is still superior in my opinion... Gator cannon is too exposed.

As a sniper though, especially as snipers don't have to worry about someone constantly firing on them (if they know what they're doing and can use the speed of the gator properly), the exposed points don't matter and they can deal devastating shots from across the map, quickly move to another position, and fire from a new angle to keep the enemy on their toes.

[ed111]

I'd have to say other because the sabretooth = so much pain. nIf you don't believe me ask Malicious Wind. Or Spartan! Or natedmac...and the list grows on :shock:

Didn't really bother me at all. I have no problem fighting 401 snipers. One of my teammates would agree with me though :lol:

The build is brutal though if you're not paying attention.

Exactly, that is my style of play. Let my teammates strike first and while I'm moving acoss the map they are turning their sides to me for my favorite shots. The kill shots. Ask TXKenpo how fast I had him dead in a game the other day. He will say "First 10 seconds of the game" :lol:

[InsomniacsDream]

Personally, I find the Gator's pit a little overboard :S The Sal Kar pit, so long as it is protected, is all you need for Sabres, C20 will do you good for SC200's or Epee's, and a C110, OCASSIONALY when you can move fast enough to take combas's, even if your guns DO blow (gator dosn't move fast enough IMO, though every bit helps, and the lack of 15 min effect time makes it that much worse :S)

My idea is this: If your pit isn't guarded, beef it up, if it is, it only needs to be as strong as your guns...

[*Zaha Torte*]

Personally, I find the Gator's pit a little overboard :S The Sal Kar pit, so long as it is protected, is all you need for Sabres, C20 will do you good for SC200's or Epee's, and a C110, OCASSIONALY when you can move fast enough to take combas's, even if your guns DO blow (gator dosn't move fast enough IMO, though every bit helps, and the lack of 15 min effect time makes it that much worse :S)

My idea is this: If your pit isn't guarded, beef it up, if it is, it only needs to be as strong as your guns...

The gator doesn't take up a lot of weight with its guns, and doesn't grant any real increase in speed without it, so may as well beef up the pit.

You never know when you're stripped and the battle comes down to a combas war that you need to live through.

This is why the Gator is known as an "all purpose sniper". You need to be able to fight for as many victory conditions as possible. A sniper can't take out a base, so you need to ensure you can take combasses if you are unable to kill the enemy hounds. A weaker pit makes that difficult.

The Trigger already has a peanut pit for the purposes you speak of.

[Stu Brodie]

Have you fought someone who knows how to handle a gator sniper?? If you have, you would never ask that question.

The brilliance of the gun placement is two fold: 1. VERY small profile. 2. EXTREMELY stable firing from that location.

The stability/recoil balance directly translates to a cannon hound as well. I haven't seen another 4xCN300 hound that fires like a cannon varient of the GATOR.

Maybe I haven't squared off against well played one, but that doesnt mean there isnt a huge design flaw regardless. 4 snipes grouped together is a very large and easy to hit target. Putting that in the middle of your hound makes it even easier to hit. It works with the cannon version because cannons have good durability, but snipes have tissue paper defense. So the easiest part to hit on your hound is also the weakest and one of the most important?

I could see it excelling in free battle, because of the chaos, but in the war when the other team has a sniper as well, and you dont get those unanswered shots I just dont get why it still is regarded so highly.

[ixnaydude]

Have you fought someone who knows how to handle a gator sniper?? If you have, you would never ask that question.

The brilliance of the gun placement is two fold: 1. VERY small profile. 2. EXTREMELY stable firing from that location.

The stability/recoil balance directly translates to a cannon hound as well. I haven't seen another 4xCN300 hound that fires like a cannon varient of the GATOR.

Maybe I haven't squared off against well played one, but that doesnt mean there isnt a huge design flaw regardless. 4 snipes grouped together is a very large and easy to hit target. Putting that in the middle of your hound makes it even easier to hit. It works with the cannon version because cannons have good durability, but snipes have tissue paper defense. So the easiest part to hit on your hound is also the weakest and one of the most important?

I could see it excelling in free battle, because of the chaos, but in the war when the other team has a sniper as well, and you dont get those unanswered shots I just dont get why it still is regarded so highly.

I'll have to disagree with you here again. If you take the front profile of a Gator and 'size' it up against...say, the Trigger. The Gator will have a shorter and thinner profile. A Gator has the front profile equal to the Drinking Bird QC hound. It's design is contained within the width of the pit and legs. If you measure it up against a standard CPU sniper hound, it'll be about half a SC longer than it, but still be thinner. So, the Gator will have a wider side profile, however most of the time, nobody should be getting a side shot on a Gator or any sniper for that matter. As a matter of general fighting tactics, if you get flanked you're pretty much screwed, regardless of what RT you're driving.

Ixnaydude

[MLK_SPARTAN]

Have you fought someone who knows how to handle a gator sniper?? If you have, you would never ask that question.

The brilliance of the gun placement is two fold: 1. VERY small profile. 2. EXTREMELY stable firing from that location.

The stability/recoil balance directly translates to a cannon hound as well. I haven't seen another 4xCN300 hound that fires like a cannon varient of the GATOR.

Maybe I haven't squared off against well played one, but that doesnt mean there isnt a huge design flaw regardless. 4 snipes grouped together is a very large and easy to hit target. Putting that in the middle of your hound makes it even easier to hit. It works with the cannon version because cannons have good durability, but snipes have tissue paper defense. So the easiest part to hit on your hound is also the weakest and one of the most important?

I could see it excelling in free battle, because of the chaos, but in the war when the other team has a sniper as well, and you dont get those unanswered shots I just dont get why it still is regarded so highly.

A flaw implies an imperfection, error or oversight. There are none in this design. The design is as perfect as I've seen in what role it fulfills. There are limitations and drawbacks as there are with every other build in the game and those are well documented.

It excells in the war, not freebattle. Snipers generally don't fare well in FB because of the propensity of the target you just killed to spawn next to you. I assure you, getting hit by 4xSC200s at 1000m is demoralizing experience.

I think so highly of the design because it is a best in class. I and others have used it with brutal efficiency and know what it can do against the best pilots and builds in the game.

[AsherCrestfallen]

Okay jedi. Before you go all Anakin, think about this. Remember what I told you about this game being Darwinism personified? Evolution in this game has it's large moments, then those moments are refined. Snipers are as thoroughbred as you can get. You can take my trigger on, and then you can take zaha's trigger on, then you can take on carnage's trigger. Exact same builds down to the chipsets and weapons rotations, I can almost guarantee you. The sniper that's behind the controller however, is a completely different beast. Carnage will probably have his squad distract you then he'll blast you in the canopy. Zaha will take you out before you can even see him. I'll drop you if I just see an open opportunity. The sniper builds have been refined to the point of where it's difference is in the user only. Yes, it can get boring watching the same hounds over and over. HOWEVER, that is not what makes the game boring. With the builds already being established, you're down to pilot skill. Carnage and zaha and several other of the posters in this thread know very well what they are talking about. Listen to what the people here have to say (with a few exceptions) and you'll learn. Do not take the dark side. Finish your training and a jedi one day you shall be. The yoda has spoken *smacks jedi up the backside of the head with his wooden staff*
NOW GO DO YOUR HOMEWORK!!!
(by the way, I'm watching you on the forums and will be tracking you via the players....I stuck my neck out for you, don't let me down)

[ixnaydude]

^^ Ooh, pressure. I like it. Nothing like the teacher putting the ruler to the student! Or the principal putting the paddle to the student. Nice...brings back the memories...of being paddled by the principal for not being such a nice student....but I digress....

Ixnaydude

[ed111]

For information about the trigger, gator and sabretooth look here:


http://boards2.sega.com/chromehounds_board/viewtopic.php?t=8958


I just have one thing to say:
Owned...

[daibook]

that was entertaining a nice debate "well more like a teaching"

they speak the truth

[snipersnightmar]

gator for me..

[INDISCRIMINANT-RogueCell]

My favorite all around sniper is my wheeled version.

My favorite heavy sniper is what I like to call a SLIMLINE. You can put any combination of six SC200s or Sabres and fire in a cluster of 2, 3, or 4 and you will hit as accurate as a gator/trigger at long range. It is a hybrid of the trigger sniper and 21st armored cannon build. Advantages over the trigger include a bigger pit and extremely slim profile while still allowing you to put 4 sabres into a target followed by 2 SC200s. Another variant of the SLIMLINE that I have found particularly powerful is putting all 6 as sc200 or sabres, and you can set them up in 3 shot clusters, pull the trigger once, right bumper, pull the trigger again. All 6 bullets on the same target with just a slight tug on the stick.

[snipersnightmar]

roguecell can i get this slimslime build?

[NoobForce-1]

My favorite all around sniper is my wheeled version.

My favorite heavy sniper is what I like to call a SLIMLINE. You can put any combination of six SC200s or Sabres and fire in a cluster of 2, 3, or 4 and you will hit as accurate as a gator/trigger at long range. It is a hybrid of the trigger sniper and 21st armored cannon build. Advantages over the trigger include a bigger pit and extremely slim profile while still allowing you to put 4 sabres into a target followed by 2 SC200s. Another variant of the SLIMLINE that I have found particularly powerful is putting all 6 as sc200 or sabres, and you can set them up in 3 shot clusters, pull the trigger once, right bumper, pull the trigger again. All 6 bullets on the same target with just a slight tug on the stick.

Sounds almost like my Hera

[ed111]

If you have to tug the thumbstick to get back on target you have way to much recoil :wink: try out other gun settings and placement and post your findings then.