Latency vs Bandwidth

[PortManOWr]

Haha, while checking up on some more info I ran across this;

http://www.usenix.org/publications/l...bandwidth.html
It's a great letter to gaming developers.

Red don't forget that aslong as your bandwidth (Dn/Up) is reasonable, lantecy should be just fine. With that said, both still rely on the ISP. ISP's still haven't figured out that online traffic is rising fast. More and more most ISP are just trying to grab new customers, while not properly upadting/maintaining there end.

We could also try to run some ping tests towards asiain sites, maybe even a tracert?

I'm avg 28ms per ping and avg 35ms in tracert.

[shoootme]

i was just wundering if theres an esay way to tell if your latency or atl esst tell if yours so bad u shod stop playing the game. mayb if sume1 put up there ping test of the live server or sumethig and a link. it whod help ppl that dont no much on the subget (ie me)

sorry if this sonde stupid but i dont no much on the this

[Dabbs]

i was just wundering if theres an esay way to tell if your latency or atl esst tell if yours so bad u shod stop playing the game. mayb if sume1 put up there ping test of the live server or sumethig and a link. it whod help ppl that dont no much on the subget (ie me)

sorry if this sonde stupid but i dont no much on the this

Well you could host a game on Chromehounds, then get one of your squad buddies to look at the latency before he joins the game. If it is a circle within a circle then you are great, if your a circle then you have a pretty good connection. If it's triangle then its below average and if it's an x then you have a bad latency.

[scarexbl]

"Red don't forget that aslong as your bandwidth (Dn/Up) is reasonable, lantecy should be just fine. "

MOW, that isn't true. Your latency will depend on what you're connecting too. You can have great latency in all your bandwidth tests, however, thats not testing the latency between you and the gaming servers.

[PositiveG]

It's the latency stupid.

Mind you, it's a 10 year old article, but it explains things nicely.

http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~cheshir...s/Latency.html

[SaintSinner]

I see bandwidth results posted all over this site and I wanted to make sure everyone understands something.

Bandwidth takes a backseat to Latency.

And both of THOSE take a backseat to Line Quality.... because if you're dropping packets like crazy, it doesn't matter how fat your data pipe is, or how blazingly fast those packets get there.... if they get there at all.

[SaintSinner]

simpyl put...

Satalite Internet? good for downloading tons of crap.

worse then PHONELINE for playing games.

i think with anything other then phone or satalite you should be fine for playing games. i could be mistaken tho.

Phone?? You can't play xbox live on dial up. Also, please read my post again and understand that latency is more important than bandwidth.

You obviously don't know how a Sat. data connection works...

-SS

[scarexbl]

I see bandwidth results posted all over this site and I wanted to make sure everyone understands something.

Bandwidth takes a backseat to Latency.

And both of THOSE take a backseat to Line Quality.... because if you're dropping packets like crazy, it doesn't matter how fat your data pipe is, or how blazingly fast those packets get there.... if they get there at all.

apparently you don't understand that a loss of packets will increase latency, which means high latency. so, if you have small/short latency, your line quality is ok. If its high, obviously your line quality could be poor, but there are many other factors.

If you live an area where your buried cable is subject to harsh conditions, your line quality could be bad, but most companies do tests to make sure you have an acceptable amount of voltage.

[scarexbl]

simpyl put...

Satalite Internet? good for downloading tons of crap.

worse then PHONELINE for playing games.

i think with anything other then phone or satalite you should be fine for playing games. i could be mistaken tho.

Phone?? You can't play xbox live on dial up. Also, please read my post again and understand that latency is more important than bandwidth.

You obviously don't know how a Sat. data connection works...

-SS

download is via satellite and upload is via phone line. I didn't understand his post because of the lack of details.

[SaintSinner]

You absolutely need good upload for good letency, it's a measurement between how quick you can send and receive information! Therefore, you need an optimal connection for good latency.

EDIT:: Apparently, I should read the whole thread before replying -- RedPhoenix already answered this perfectly.
EDIT:::


No, you don't. Bandwidth and latency have VERY little to do with another, when comparing same-types of service (Dial-up, DSL, Cable, Sat., Frame Relay, etc)

Case in point: DSL

Regardless if one month you pay for a pipe that is 144kb, then the next month you pay for a 1.5mb connection.... your latency will be the same, because it's provisioned by the same provider across the same twisted pair of copper wires.

Another one: Frame Relay

Grab a CSU/DSU, and a pair of routers... set up a point-to-point 56k Frame Relay connection. Do some ping tests. Take that same CSU/DSU gear, and provision a point-to-point T-3 (45mb). You're going to get the same ping times.

Latency is the length of time it takes for ONE packet (typically 64k) to get from Point A to Point B (and then reply back with a "Yes, I got it!". Your bandwidth is how MANY of those packets can get from Point A to Point B, at one time.

Make sense?

Oh, and don't always believe what you read on a Wiki -- any one of us could go in there and type in an explaination. Doesn't make it the 'right' one.

-SS