SEGA merges with/is bought by Nintendo?

[Asraik]

If Sony or Microsoft bought SEGA, Sonic would end up the same way as either Crash Bandicoot and Banjo and Kazooie. I doubt either would even care about Sonic or the other SEGA games. Crash Bandicoot was an excellent way to start off an entrance into the gaming industry. But after he was given away, he's not what he used to be, and neither is Spyro. Now he's with Activision, who pays no attention to him. Instead, all that attention goes to whiny Call of Duty fanboys who probably play the game like noobs by using very overpowered weapons and vehicles.

Microsoft is the same way. They bought the popular company Rare, known for games like Donkey Kong Country, Banjo-Kazooie, and Conker's Bad Fur Day. Fortunately, the original Donkey Kong didn't involve Rare, so thankfully DK is still going strong. But not Conker, Banjo, and Kazooie, who are actually original creations from Rare. It's all thanks to another first-person shooter known as Halo. That series isn't even as old as either of those, and it still has more games than both, including spin-offs, now with the recent Halo 4 on its way.

I cannot deny I really enjoy both of those shooter games, but they get too much attention than they need. A moment for other good games is needed urgently, and now is the perfect time when they are about to be forgotten to exist.

If Nintendo bought SEGA, I also forgot to mention we'd have quite a bit of several newcomers to Super Smash Bros. which sounds good to me, along with the reasons on my last post.

Yes, I can see where you are coming from and I find it would be quite tragic if Sonic did end up as Crash Bandicoot or Spyro did with no more appearances. However I believe Naughty Dog (a.k.a Sony) actually began making a new series for each generation of console released. First being Crash for PS1, Jak and Daxter for PS2 and Uncharted (and The Last of Us) for PS3. So technically although Naughty Dog is Sony owned, it is a misrepresentation to say that we would see no more Sonic games (or SEGA games) on PS3. As Sony could probably just own SEGA and allow them to still make games but be more involved in the process, of course I can't be 100% certain of this claim I make. However since Nintendo has Mario, it would only be intelligent of Sony (or Microsoft) to have Sonic, a widely known gaming mascot to compete in the gaming market. If either bought SEGA they could make Sonic a mascot of their games and give more of a reason for people to buy their products with Sonic exclusives solely on their system. With any company buying out SEGA, Microsoft seemingly would be most likely to let Sonic die down as they did with Spyro, as Nintendo and Sony are two companies I could see keeping it alive. Look at the Uncharted fanbase, although small Sony still supports it and Uncharted is one of their signature franchises so I could see Sonic (with a much bigger community) getting a lot more support.

Call of Duty is a huge franchise though, I know not of if it ranks higher than Mario but I am guessing it does? Same with Halo, as I am not big on shooters, I do not focus on the information or statistics involved with them of how popular they are. I assume very, since compared to other games I know these two have been spread quite around a lot (with myself even having bought a few, selective Call of Duty titles for PS3.) They get much attention as many customers lover shooters and prefer to buy them, when focusing on selling a product you go for the mass majority who will love your product as it is only natural to aim for pleasing the most people you can. So these companies focus on shooters as to no surprise, they rank in the most amount of cash. This is as with Nintendo, they focus a lot of 'family orientated' games so it is no surprise many families buy this system over the PS3/360 as they want a system that everyone will enjoy. Marketing, is marketing. You select an audience you wish to sell your product to, and you focus on that audience, if companies focused solely on the lesser audience (those with rarer opinions or liking in the gaming market) than they would lose sales, which would lead up to them making less than spectacular games as they do.

As for Rare, I have enjoyed many of their products and was quite disappointed to see them bought out. Like I said, out of all who SEGA could be bought to, Microsoft seems the worst to buy them. I would personally prefer Nintendo or Sony, however I like the features both PS3 and 360 offer, however I went with a PS3. I do not have the time, money, nor need for multiple systems. So SEGA being multi-console based is quite nice. I just do not want to see Sonic die out as the series deserves so much more. Although I don't enjoy shooters (except third person) I can't say I am disappointed with your decision to like them as I like a series known as Dynasty Warriors so it is only natural that I understand a love for a series despite what others may think of you.

Ah yes, I wish they would have had Tails in, did Sonic appear as a guest character (as in all games he has appeared in on Nintendo with Mario) and does anyone know how much Nintendo paid SEGA for his appearance or how the arrangements came to be? I am quite curious.

[jeepattack89]

Asraik You said "As Sony could probably just own SEGA and allow them to still make games but be more involved in the process".

And you think that would good thing how? Ever heard of the old saying "to many cooks in the kitchen" The magic of Sega games is "SEGA" itself not how others would like it to be or how they would like it changed. That kind of stuff is a dime a dozen. Sega is unique because of the way the Characters come across and how they are portrayed. For anybody other then Sega to change this would be like Donald Trump shaving his head! Do you want Donald Trump to shave his head? Even if Sony or Nintendo owned Sega and they made changes to Sonic or a like Sega Character The changes made rather it be approved by Sega or not would be Forced and it would take away any prestige Sega has left. You might as well start calling Sega Atari if that happens and that would be the end of Sega. There would be no come back from that. Ask Atari.

[Asraik]

Asraik You said "As Sony could probably just own SEGA and allow them to still make games but be more involved in the process".

And you think that would good thing how? Ever heard of the old saying "to many cooks in the kitchen" The magic of Sega games is "SEGA" itself not how others would like it to be or how they would like it changed. That kind of stuff is a dime a dozen. Sega is unique because of the way the Characters come across and how they are portrayed. For anybody other then Sega to change this would be like Donald Trump shaving his head! Do you want Donald Trump to shave his head? Even if Sony or Nintendo owned Sega and they made changes to Sonic or a like Sega Character The changes made rather it be approved by Sega or not would be Forced and it would take away any prestige Sega has left. You might as well start calling Sega Atari if that happens and that would be the end of Sega. There would be no come back from that. Ask Atari.

Would you rather SEGA die out and never be bought out ever? Thus Sonic or any other SEGA game never coming into existence ever again? I am just saying that SEGA is not the powerhouse it once was. I could easily see it being bought out. Not only that, if a game company refuses to do something different with the games or anything it will get boring. You have to try something different, even if it means losing 'prestige' or magic as you call it. SEGA has already closed some of it's companies, although not necessarily the end it makes the company smaller. I wouldn't call it "the end" if SEGA was bought by Nintendo or Sony. It may even mean better Sonic games (or any other SEGA games) for us.

[Mushroom Hedgehog]

Perhaps things could work better if SEGA is bought, but independently operated. Disney bought the Marvel comic book company some years ago, and I can't see anything that's really different about them, at least the films. I'm not sure if they are indepently operated from Disney, but it seems somewhat like they are. SEGA could probably do just fine with this, and we'd have a lot more chances of Olympic crossovers and Smash Bros. appearances from characters we didn't expect to see in the present time.

I'd prefer this to be done mainly with Nintendo, even if they will continue to be behind in console technology. I'm even starting to hear the Wii U might just be the same thing as the Wii. A console from the previous generations. I don't want to believe it, but we'll have to see. It might not be as big of a deal as it seems. In fact, I've found some games on the Wii to be better than that on the Xbox 360. Compare Sonic Generations to Sonic Colors. The latter seems lasts much longer than the former, despite being made for the Wii. Besides, the extra screen on the controller seems to work like a Dreamcast controller from what I've heard about both.

[jeepattack89]

Would you rather SEGA die out and never be bought out ever? Thus Sonic or any other SEGA game never coming into existence ever again? I am just saying that SEGA is not the powerhouse it once was. I could easily see it being bought out. Not only that, if a game company refuses to do something different with the games or anything it will get boring. You have to try something different, even if it means losing 'prestige' or magic as you call it. SEGA has already closed some of it's companies, although not necessarily the end it makes the company smaller. I wouldn't call it "the end" if SEGA was bought by Nintendo or Sony. It may even mean better Sonic games (or any other SEGA games) for us.

You don't get it. If it comes to point that Sega needs to be bought out it's already to late and the end of Sega. Nintendo would not be buying Sega to "save" Sega. Do you really think Nintendo or any other company cares about saving Sega and having them around? Any company that buys out Sega would be buying Sega to either A= end the competition or B= to make a quick profit. C= own the rights and license to ALL Sega products and I am sure everyone knows what that means. Yea congratulations we might get lucky and have Nintendo pump out about 30 new games with the name Sonic in the title with no depth like they do with mario franchise and and that would be all we would get. How GREAT do you think all those mass produced games would be? Yea lets all hope Sega gets bought out, yea right. Any body Follow wrestling? How well did WCW do when there rival WWE bought them out in the late 90's? That was once a powerhouse company. I know I was hoping WCW would still be around. Did WWE let them continue? No and they stopped anything to do with WCW. Do you really think Nintendo or any other company would want Sega to operate independently? Besides most companies that take over a company even if they want the company to continue will put in new people to run it since in there eyes the people that were running it already ran it into the ground hence the reason for the buy out to begin with. That would mean complete revamping and change. So Sega would not really be Sega is what I am saying. P.S. You can make an updated game without having to lose the essence of the original and still have it be updated for the present market.

[jeepattack89]

It's simple, A lot of you will argue this but here it is simply put. Retro release of old consoles and games. And then when Everybody buys those consoles And believe me they would just fly off the shelves. Then in a year or two or even 3 years release a new gen console. Problem Solved. No need to over think this. Sega would build up there reputation with the release of old consoles and people would be even more built up and ready to shell out for a new gen console. What does Sega have to lose here? What going bankrupt or being bought out? The time to act is now.

[kevin the hedgehog]

It will be a good move for both, nintendo have sonic exclusives, sonic colors outsold generations and colors was only on one console ( the wii ) Both company's have great classics, and the 2 company's one make them even stronger, see it like a dolby digital logo, a nintendo console with a SEGA logo on, and all the games exclusive. A sonic and SEGA/nintendo all star racing. that will be superb !

[Asraik]

You don't get it. If it comes to point that Sega needs to be bought out it's already to late and the end of Sega. Nintendo would not be buying Sega to "save" Sega. Do you really think Nintendo or any other company cares about saving Sega and having them around? Any company that buys out Sega would be buying Sega to either A= end the competition or B= to make a quick profit. C= own the rights and license to ALL Sega products and I am sure everyone knows what that means. Yea congratulations we might get lucky and have Nintendo pump out about 30 new games with the name Sonic in the title with no depth like they do with mario franchise and and that would be all we would get. How GREAT do you think all those mass produced games would be? Yea lets all hope Sega gets bought out, yea right. Any body Follow wrestling? How well did WCW do when there rival WWE bought them out in the late 90's? That was once a powerhouse company. I know I was hoping WCW would still be around. Did WWE let them continue? No and they stopped anything to do with WCW. Do you really think Nintendo or any other company would want Sega to operate independently? Besides most companies that take over a company even if they want the company to continue will put in new people to run it since in there eyes the people that were running it already ran it into the ground hence the reason for the buy out to begin with. That would mean complete revamping and change. So Sega would not really be Sega is what I am saying. P.S. You can make an updated game without having to lose the essence of the original and still have it be updated for the present market.

You make it sound like if SEGA was bought out it would mean the end of Sonic, I also didn't say I want them bought out I merely stated if it did occur who would I prefer to buy it out. Sony bought and let Naughty Dog operate independently (with some involvement, yet they are still around) and they did not close it down and it is currently running. The fact is, you do not run the company that would potentially buy SEGA out, you would have no say in what they do with it. Comparing it to WWE and WWC is irrelevant, as I see no reason WWE would buy SEGA. If you are at least going to introduce an new argument into this debate/conversation at least make sure it has something to do with gaming, not with wrestling. Give me an example that would prove Nintendo and Sony would cease to let SEGA be an semi-independent company (just having some involvement in what happens with the games they produce.) Also if the company did pump out 30 more Sonic game like Mario, why are you complaining? I never had an issue with any Mario games I've played nor have anyone I ever talked to, it would also mean more Sonic games which no one could say they would dislike. Having the company bought out would still mean it was SEGA, I doubt they would fire every employee along with it if they did so so it will still retain the essence of being the original SEGA, sometimes change is not a bad thing you know.

[jeepattack89]

You make it sound like if SEGA was bought out it would mean the end of Sonic, I also didn't say I want them bought out I merely stated if it did occur who would I prefer to buy it out. Sony bought and let Naughty Dog operate independently (with some involvement, yet they are still around) and they did not close it down and it is currently running. The fact is, you do not run the company that would potentially buy SEGA out, you would have no say in what they do with it. Comparing it to WWE and WWC is irrelevant, as I see no reason WWE would buy SEGA. If you are at least going to introduce an new argument into this debate/conversation at least make sure it has something to do with gaming, not with wrestling. Give me an example that would prove Nintendo and Sony would cease to let SEGA be an semi-independent company (just having some involvement in what happens with the games they produce.) Also if the company did pump out 30 more Sonic game like Mario, why are you complaining? I never had an issue with any Mario games I've played nor have anyone I ever talked to, it would also mean more Sonic games which no one could say they would dislike. Having the company bought out would still mean it was SEGA, I doubt they would fire every employee along with it if they did so so it will still retain the essence of being the original SEGA, sometimes change is not a bad thing you know.

I guess giving you an

Analogy does not work. I never said WWE was going to buy Sega I said WWE and WCW were rivals. WWE bought out WCW and that was the end of WCW. Just like what is being suggested here with another rival Company buying out Sega. And fYI there has been lots of WWE video games made for the video game industry including Sega and Sega consoles. So I guess WWE does have to do with Sega and video games even if you remove the point of the analogy given. My point is Competing business don't care about the business they buy out as far as its rich history. Just the profit. Change is not always a good thing. Every Mario game has almost the same concept and same feel. Nothing original added for a long time. Sure there fun for a few minutes and then you realize your just playing another Mario game and it gets boring real fast. I guess if you want to buy 30 sonic games all almost identical except a title name change go for it. If that happens. And no Sega would not have the same essence as it did if they bring in all there hired guns. It would represent the company that bought it not the company "BEING SEGA" that got bought out. Believe me prey that this does not happen because you would see the change and would not need me to point it out.

[Asraik]

I guess giving you an

Analogy does not work. I never said WWE was going to buy Sega I said WWE and WCW were rivals. WWE bought out WCW and that was the end of WCW. Just like what is being suggested here with another rival Company buying out Sega. And fYI there has been lots of WWE video games made for the video game industry including Sega and Sega consoles. So I guess WWE does have to do with Sega and video games even if you remove the point of the analogy given. My point is Competing business don't care about the business they buy out as far as its rich history. Just the profit. Change is not always a good thing. Every Mario game has almost the same concept and same feel. Nothing original added for a long time. Sure there fun for a few minutes and then you realize your just playing another Mario game and it gets boring real fast. I guess if you want to buy 30 sonic games all almost identical except a title name change go for it. If that happens. And no Sega would not have the same essence as it did if they bring in all there hired guns. It would represent the company that bought it not the company "BEING SEGA" that got bought out. Believe me prey that this does not happen because you would see the change and would not need me to point it out.

They are not in the video game industry, they pay others to make video games for them. Entirely different matter at hand therefore WWE is not game company or directly influencing the industry (other than getting a company to produce a game based on their franchise.) There is an analogy and also something that is just thrown in there to make your argument look stronger. You also never gave me an example of both Nintendo and Sony buying out a company and not letting them work semi-independently. Change may not be a good thing, however sometimes it is better, if SEGA suddenly changed and became as powerful as it once was would it not be a good change? Change is not always bad, yet sometimes it is. All games get 'boring' or repetitive after awhile and each person has their own tastes into what games they like and those which they don't so the time it takes to get 'boring' differs for each person. Mario Kart, Mario Party, Mario and Sonic at The Olympic Games? Are these all the 'same' type of games? No merely using the name Mario in it does not make the gameplay similar to each title released, does that mean Sonic the Hedgehog 4: Episode 1 and 2 are the same as Sonic and SEGA All Stars Racing because the word "Sonic" is in the title? I do not need to pray for anything, you are making a huge deal of nothing. SEGA is not being bought out nor is have there been confirmation of so happening, so long as SEGA remains a company, independently owned or working under a bigger company name (Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft) and does not close down (or stop making it's current games) than I am not worried.