I'm in the red!

[Alacres1985]

I second that. I see they give a two year RROD warranty for a reball service. Getting two more years from your 360 is definitely worth the price of this repair.

Yeah, I completely forgot to mention that. I ended up getting a lifetime warranty for my PS3 as an extra preventive measure (considering how often these older models get the dreaded YLoD), but it's probably a little overkill. The two year warranty should be plenty, especially if you get the reball service (which I would recommend).

Do the towel trick. Wrap about 4-5 towels around it, and turn it on for about 30-45 mins. That always seems to fix it up. If it does it again, repeat. Here's the thing though, this method will stop working after about the 4-5 go at it, so start saving money to get a new one once you do this.

I'd really advise against doing something like this if you have any intention of sending the xbox in for a repair. From what I can tell, using this "towel trick" is somewhat similar to performing a weak, indirect reflow. It might get the system working again for a short period, but it most likely won't last very long and you risk damaging the hardware even further, each time you do it, due to the excessive heat.

In other words, I wouldn't even consider doing something like this, unless you really don't care about what happens to your system.

[xBladeM6x]

Yeah, I completely forgot to mention that. I ended up getting a lifetime warranty for my PS3 as an extra preventive measure (considering how often these older models get the dreaded YLoD), but it's probably a little overkill. The two year warranty should be plenty, especially if you get the reball service (which I would recommend).



I'd really advise against doing something like this if you have any intention of sending the xbox in for a repair. From what I can tell, using this "towel trick" is somewhat similar to performing a weak, indirect reflow. It might get the system working again for a short period, but it most likely won't last very long and you risk damaging the hardware even further, each time you do it, due to the excessive heat.

In other words, I wouldn't even consider doing something like this, unless you really don't care about what happens to your system.

The reason the towel trick seems to be the way to go is, most people who send the xbox in for repair have to wait months to get it back, half the time they do it's still broken, or just breaks again in like 4 weeks anyways. It's better and more practical to just towel trick it up for about 2-4 months, and buy a new one when it finally quits.

[Alacres1985]

The reason the towel trick seems to be the way to go is, most people who send the xbox in for repair have to wait months to get it back, half the time they do it's still broken, or just breaks again in like 4 weeks anyways. It's better and more practical to just towel trick it up for about 2-4 months, and buy a new one when it finally quits.

That's why I'd recommend using a company like Endless Electronics to do the repair. It only takes about a week in total to get it back, and it's genuinely repaired; not just band-aided or replaced with a refurbished model.

But yeah, going through Microsoft themselves would most likely take over a month and you'd probably be sent a refurb model along with a wiped hard drive. Not to mention, it's pretty expensive if the system is already out of the warranty period.

Of course, if you don't mind spending the money, there's always the option of just getting one of the newer slim models. From what I've read, they don't have much chance at all of getting a RRoD. I'll probably be ordering one myself here in the next couple of days, if I finally decide to take the plunge with PSU. It's a tough call for me since I really want to finally play again, but spending that kind of money to play one game, especially one with an uncertain future (considering it's already around 6 years old, and SEGA having a somewhat predictable closure pattern with their online games...), is quite a gamble. Not sure I can resist the impulse though lol.

[BLACK THUNDA]

When my old xbox RRoD, I just hit really hard a bunch of times on the sides. I kid you not, It didn't have a problem with RRoD for about 6 months, then out of nowhere it happened again. I then smacked it around again, sold it to gamestop for $100 and bought a slim. Gamestop never called me back saying that they had a "problem" with my system, so I got off scott free.

[Atoli]

I thought I'd just point out that if you have anyone other than Microsoft open your xbox, you have a good chance of getting hit with a console ban.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/consoleban

And yes, they do have software in place to detect if your xbox has been opened. Does it always work? No. Will it find you right away? Probably not.

[Z a c k]

Lol Atoli that's if you plug somethings in wrong when taking apart your system and putting it back in.

[Alacres1985]

I thought I'd just point out that if you have anyone other than Microsoft open your xbox, you have a good chance of getting hit with a console ban.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/consoleban

And yes, they do have software in place to detect if your xbox has been opened. Does it always work? No. Will it find you right away? Probably not.

Unless I'm reading it incorrectly, it's only if you modify the xbox for illegitimate use (as in setting it up to work with pirated software and stuff like that). I don't see how getting a repair done, or even replacing something like a fan and PSU, could be grounds for a ban. It's just a repair/upgrade, nothing more nothing less.

As I've only had an upgrade done for my PS3, I can't really speak for 360 users specifically, but I can safely say that I've never dealt with any warnings from Sony about my alterations (probably because the upgrades were all legitimate Sony parts from the new, more efficient models), and I'm pretty sure it's the same story for 360 users. Heck, just look around on Google for people who have had the upgrades or repairs made to their 360s - if there were bans handed out for it, I'm sure you'll see it.

[Atoli]

Unless I'm reading it incorrectly, it's only if you modify the xbox for illegitimate use (as in setting it up to work with pirated software and stuff like that). I don't see how getting a repair done, or even replacing something like a fan and PSU, could be grounds for a ban. It's just a repair/upgrade, nothing more nothing less.

As I've only had an upgrade done for my PS3, I can't really speak for 360 users specifically, but I can safely say that I've never dealt with any warnings from Sony about my alterations (probably because the upgrades were all legitimate Sony parts from the new, more efficient models), and I'm pretty sure it's the same story for 360 users. Heck, just look around on Google for people who have had the upgrades or repairs made to their 360s - if there were bans handed out for it, I'm sure you'll see it.

Sony is much more lax about security than Microsoft. Microsoft is ridiculous about security. However, upon looking further, it seems the software they had used to detect open xboxs is no longer in use because it didn't work properly:

http://www.myce.com/news/microsoft-b...e-issue-52248/

So disregard my previous post ^^;

[Momonpso]

OK, thanks everyone. I will try out all of those hints ZACK gave first and then see what happens. I don't know if I want to pony up the cash to fix it since PSU is really the only game I play on it. I can always borrow my son's 360 in the meantime (if he isn't using it).

If I do decide to get it fixed I will probably do it the way cochrane and Alacres suggested and not through MS. I remember sending one of the original XBox's in for repair many years ago, it took a long time and it did indeed wipe the memory. Since this is a used one I don't want to fork over almost as much for a repair as I did to purchase.

[cochrane]

It probably wiped the memory because they sent you back a different unit. Alacres and I got our original units back with the hard drive intact. I didn't even have to re-enter my wi-fi settings. I fired it back up and automatically connected up to PSN.