Sonic X: And All That Could Have Been

[Sky Hedgehogian Maestro]

I really liked it. I could make an argument against almost everything said too but everyone here knows there's no point.

There is a point! What's the point of the argument if no one offers anything in response?? Come on! I want to see reasons why my unbridled hate for Sonic X (which does straddle the border of 'ridiculous' since so many other shows I love do the same) are unjustified, misguided, or just plain wrong.
I can't form a true and proper opinion that way. So shoot.

Now I'm going to say something good about Sonic X. Remember the episode "That's What Friends are For"? That's easily my favorite Season 1 episode alongside "Chaos Control Freaks", because it portrays Sonic as a supporting friend towards Helen, a paraplegic young girl with low self-esteem, and he even has fun with her. The president is a jerk in this episode though for trying to take Sonic away from Helen just so he can win votes! Overall though, it was nice to see Sonic spending time and having fun with somebody who wasn't Chris!

To be perfectly fair there, that wasn't the President. If anything, the Prez was just a lackey who didn't know what the hell was supposed to happen next. That was his Shakespear-hehehehahaha- Shakesperean-tragedy-victim, the unnamed Presidential Aide. The one who winds up trying to contact Eggman and gets fired and spends the rest of his days in poverty.

[SMS Skull Leader]

Over exposure/spotlight hogging of original characters
I mentioned this before, I believe. If Sonic were kept to the spotlight all the time, that's OK, but that's still no reason to not showcase others. The reason why spotlight hogging is a problem in the TV series' is because: it is always an OC that takes it, and never one of the canon officials; it is often unrealistically disproportional; the OC is pushed together with Sonic in order to feign importance, at the cost of someone else (Tails, all the time.); the series makes it important to spend time developing the OC and his/her relationship to Sonic, but not Sonic or anyone else.

I think the problem with X was that the other characters like Tails, Amy and Knuckles were already there and the writters took for granted that they already knew and befriended Sonic prior to the events of the show. If the relation and interactions that Sonic has at least with those three were to be explored in detail, a show would need to introduce them from the very beginning so one could see how they go from strangers to acquaintances to finally close friends, and not just to Sonic but between each other as well. IMO if a series were to be done like that , with all character having well defined personalities, quirks and traits that can be combined and played with to keep exploring different scenarios, there really would not be any need for an OC, let alone making any of the characters into an audience surrogate since I feel any of the four wehn done right have enough qualities to make them likeable and relatable.

[Sky Hedgehogian Maestro]

I think the problem with X was that the other characters like Tails, Amy and Knuckles were already there and the writters took for granted that they already knew and befriended Sonic prior to the events of the show. If the relation and interactions that Sonic has at least with those three were to be explored in detail, a show would need to introduce them from the very beginning so one could see how they go from strangers to acquaintances to finally close friends, and not just to Sonic but between each other as well. IMO if a series were to be done like that , with all character having well defined personalities, quirks and traits that can be combined and played with to keep exploring different scenarios, there really would not be any need for an OC, let alone making any of the characters into an audience surrogate since I feel any of the four wehn done right have enough qualities to make them likeable and relatable.

Exactly! For example- Need a character who despises Sonic? Already have Knuckles or Shadow, right? Even Metal Sonic if need be. Knuckles and Shadow- historically (emphasis on the former when I say "historically") they don't get along with Sonic, and if they were dragged around with him all series, you'd have character development fodder. Both characters do things their own way, in ways Sonic would not approve of all the time. Shadow, as we all know, even cursed up a storm. Sonic, if you follow classic Sega, would never swear. Knuckles has trust issues- barely trust your friends and threaten to liquefy their face just for holding something that passingly looks like an emerald, but give all the villains 2nd, third, fourth, fifth, ten thousandth chances.

Chris never develops nor ever dared to go against Sonic. He had to always be on Sonic's good side. The only times they disagreed was when Chris wanted to come along with him on his adventures- never anything deeper nor more personal and possibly character-damaging than that.


And, in the case that there really does need to be a major OC near the hero (since sometimes, some character traits cannot realistically be stretched that far for few enough reasons, or else you risk izing a character and alienating their fans), then the creators would have a reason for it.

[Lordhouse]

Oh yeeeeeah!



But no, what the JAZZ! Yeah, Sonic X is dgit, but this is fanboy overkill.

[Jake733Productions]

This show could've been the definitive animated series, kind of like how Batman: The Animated Series holds such a powerful grip on his respective fanbase even to this day.

However, Sega just HAD to have cheap animation, bad charactization, unneeded human supporting characters, an ineffectual Eggman, and dumb plots.

What would've been better is if they tried to compete with that and Spiderman TAS/Unlimited, just No Censorship on Sonic using violence and stuff; base it off the video games and maybe some SatAM while they're at it. It'd have worked perfectly!

Also: would've been better than the actual Sonic X.

[Crystal Chaotix 3]

There is a point! What's the point of the argument if no one offers anything in response?? Come on! I want to see reasons why my unbridled hate for Sonic X (which does straddle the border of 'ridiculous' since so many other shows I love do the same) are unjustified, misguided, or just plain wrong.
I can't form a true and proper opinion that way. So shoot.

I say so mostly because it's a hate thread really. The majority of the opinions expressed usually don't tend to agree or even consider the opposing side and if they do than it isn't going to lead to much. I usually just avoid it when disgust is thrust onto something I like. Not all the time but in some conditions I can't help it. For me, should I go too deep into it, I end up dwelling on it and it becomes harder for me to enjoy the subject matter because I'm thinking about how much other people don't like it. It's a serious problem and a rather pathetic one I really want to cure. I shouldn't have any reason to care what other people think, especially not on a Sonic forum over an anime that ended over 5 years ago.

That doesn't mean any points I'd make wouldn't be valid of course. But going into an argument of any kind about it is something I've just got to not do. It isn't good for my heart. I love SA2, Heroes, and Unleashed as well, a lot more than Sonic X, and yet I can handle it with them. Not sure why it's different here. Probably because it's the most prominent.

[Enerjak]

I hate Chris Thorndyke!
He took the roles that other characters was suppose to have like it was in the games. One of these scenes was on the last episodes of the Shadow Saga and this would Sonic Adventure 2 for those who don't know but I'm sure you do.
In the game in the Last Story the Hero and Dark side (except Shadow) must team up to stop the Ark from crashing into the Earth and then they leave to do that. There is a scene where Amy would walk in complaining about her friends always leaving her behind and notices Shadow looking out at Earth. She goes over to him and convinces him to help save the Earth and coincidently this helps Shadow remember his promise to Maria so then he runs off to go help Sonic and friends.

Now in Sonic X instead of Amy doing this (which irrated me) Chris does this and gets beaten up as he tries to convince Shadow to help Sonic. In the end Shadow decides do help and hands a passed out Chris to his butler and goes save the day.

Amy lost a good scene that I respected her for doing in the game. Another one is in the Chaos Saga. In the last episode when Perfect Chaos absorbs the negative emeralds and throws them everywhere, everyone goes and gets a emerald and gives it to Sonic and then here comes Chris running up with the emerald in his hand and then he wants to trip and fall to get more attention than he already has by making Sonic run over to him to see if he was okay.

I hate Chris and I was sooooo happy when Sonic went back to his world and a new season started. At that point because Chris isn't that smart to figure out a way to get to Sonic's world and the series will FINALLY be done on Sonic's world without Chris but I was wrong.... I doubted the power of a forced script..so I had to deal with it... I hate Chris and thats it.

[rockinpsI1]

Chris is a great and relatable character. OP has no taste in Tv shows.

[Lordhouse]

Chris is a stupid and indiscriminately terrible character. I has no taste in tV shows.

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