Can Archie Sonic and Archie Knuckles defeat Shadow?

[AshuraSenku]

Do you think they can beat Shadow? Explain why you think they can or can't.

[Miles Prower]

Yes, Knuckles in any form is unbeatable in a battle. If you say otherwise you aren't a true Sonic fan.

[Wildon Vantrix]

oh krud....im the first one...(to vote)

well....

he is still only stronger faster and somewhat more powerful than rarely ever....Enerjak beat him, lara-su could imprison him in MXYL, and..... Feast the special zone god-like bean could override his powers. Even Nazo stands a good chance at pulping him.... But like Mammoth Mogul said to Enerjak when he stole his powers "there's always someone more powerful than you".

basically, he is supposed to be the ultimate life-form from mostly being a hedgehog alien hybrid, So.... what happens if you could do the exact-same hybrid thing with alien-life in near unlimited creative potentials beyond Shadows The Hedgehog's?

that and i heard there are not one but three pieces of biological health besides the body(physical health), such as mental(mind&emotions etc.) and social(emotions&friends etc.)....

[Wildon Vantrix]

Yes, Knuckles in any form is unbeatable in a battle. If you say otherwise you aren't a true Sonic fan.

than what were you for ten years earlier

you honestly must have not known sonic until a long ten years later

noob

edit:

Knuckles in any form is unbeatable in a battle.

wait you said Knuckles

oh..... wait.... my bad........ i take that back....

[Miles Prower]

than what were you for ten years earlier

you honestly must have not known sonic until a long ten years later

noob

If Knuckles get beat in a battle the game is instantly considered not cannon.

edit:

wait you said Knuckles

oh..... wait.... my bad........ i take that back....

All good

[Total Shadow]

Sonic can due to taking on Scourge and ADAM in just his normal form and winning and also standing on equal terms with Enerjak.

But Knuckles is way depowered from is original days, Originally Knux would take on Shadow and win with ease, now he can't even beat Snively.

Shadow needs a massive upgrade though, he's supposted to be SOnic's strongest rival and the series breakout character.

[Sonic5993]

Why does it matter?

[Wildon Vantrix]

Sonic can due to taking on Scourge and ADAM in just his normal form and winning and also standing on equal terms with Enerjak.

But Knuckles is way depowered from is original days, Originally Knux would take on Shadow and win with ease, now he can't even beat Snively.

Shadow needs a massive upgrade though, he's supposted to be SOnic's strongest rival and the series breakout character.

up grade?.... well... in the Shadow Saga Story Arc. Hope Kintobar did tell him being the ultimate life form does not always mean having the ultimate physical body. sorta like living and learning from your mistakes.

[Total Shadow]

up grade?.... well... in the Shadow Saga Story Arc. Hope Kintobar did tell him being the ultimate life form does not always mean having the ultimate physical body. sorta like living and learning from your mistakes.

He's Sonic's equal(and Sonic is undoubtably the most powerful and fastest freedom fighter in the comic) and supposed to be a chaos energy conductor of exceptional prowess, the quintessential user of chaos control.

Hope is a Maria expy that is undoubtably a purity sue in order to make Shadow seem less invincible(Mind that he is not invincible, but fighting him is nigh impossible unless your Sonic or Eggman with prep). Which is stupid, since Sonic and Knuckles are cannon sues themselves especially Sonic and his bigger tie to Chaos Emeralds which make him tie with Enerjak. Shadow's an immortal living bio weapon designed to be stronger than most characters in the franchise, which he isn't at the moment. If Shadow has the same failings as everyone else and progresses on everybodies level, he loses face as the ultimate lifefrom.

Some characters are just meant to be better than others as far as character building goes. Some just work off better as more competant and more powerful to illustrate their roles in the bigger picture, Shadow should be one of those characters, and character wise he should be more bittersweet and somber than he is in the comics. Not angsty and full of whiny pouting. He's supposed to be the embodiement of disicpline and power.

[Wildon Vantrix]

up grade?.... well... in the Shadow Saga Story Arc. Hope Kintobar did tell him being the ultimate life form does not always mean having the ultimate physical body. sorta like living and learning from your mistakes.

He's Sonic's equal(and Sonic is undoubtably the most powerful and fastest freedom fighter in the comic) and supposed to be a chaos energy conductor of exceptional prowess, the quintessential user of chaos control.

agreed.....

Hope is a Maria expy that is undoubtably a purity sue in order to make Shadow seem less invincible(Mind that he is not invincible, but fighting him is nigh impossible unless your Sonic or Eggman with prep). Which is stupid, since Sonic and Knuckles are cannon sues themselves especially Sonic and his bigger tie to Chaos Emeralds which make him tie with Enerjak. Shadow's an immortal living bio weapon designed to be stronger than most characters in the franchise, which he isn't at the moment. If Shadow has the same failings as everyone else and progresses on everybodies level, he loses face as the ultimate lifefrom.

thats not what i meant.

what i meant was is he perhaps more powerful than we have yet to see, because, did it sounded like hope was saying he me be becoming more powerful once he wills it.

so, if there possibly like another ultimate-life form that is equal to him in ultimateness, could this mean he is, or cold be, possibly more rivaling by will, if he wills it?(beyond physical)

Some characters are just meant to be better than others as far as character building goes. Some just work off better as more competant and more powerful to illustrate their roles in the bigger picture, Shadow should be one of those characters, and character wise he should be more bittersweet and somber than he is in the comics. Not angsty and full of whiny pouting. He's supposed to be the embodiement of disicpline and power.

but after the talk of his by-will-increasing-power, is he already doing that?