What's keeping you regulars from playing PSO2?

[Nightwolf114]

Feel free to share your opinion on why you think that's even debateble ^^

Sure thing!

Playing on a gaming PC with game settings maxed out 1080 blah blah blah, the game looks highly superior to PSU. PSU is a Ps2 game with Ps2 graphics. The only thing that makes it look decent on PC is the high lvl's of anti-aliasing that I have forced onto it.

Oh look, a matter of opinion! This is debatable because better graphics is a laughable argument at best. Take 007 GoldenEye for the N64 for example. The N64 Graphics are horrible in comparison to today's standards, but does that make it worse than its remake? In fact a lot of people did not like the newer versions set up. Hence why people like the N64 version better. Yet the gameplay is basically the same. Lets look back an another game. To this day people talk about how they wish the Halo 2 servers were still up. Halo 3 did not live up to the expectations of most Halo players, and a large group of the Halo community still continued to play Halo 2 until the servers were taken offline. Halo 3 is superior to Halo 2 in graphics, but from your logic I would assume people should have played Halo 3 because it was far "superior"? The same could even be argued between PSO and PSU. Don't get me wrong, I love shiny new graphics, but don't think that even comes close in deciding if a game is good, or not.

In my opinion, graphics is hardly an argument for being "superior".

Music? That's laughable

It's nice to see you agree that it's not a good argument!

But in all seriousness, music is a horrible argument. Yet again it comes down to a matter of opinion. It's like saying Rock is horrible, and Rap is awesome. Just because you like one type of music and don't like another does not mean that the one you dislike is "horrible". That's an opinion, and there would be many people who disagree. Does that make you right? No. Does that make them right? No.

PSU's music is pretty terrible and was a HUGE let down when compared to PSO's music.

That's your opinion, but that does not mean PSO/PSO2's music is "superior" to PSU's.

PSU has many more missions than PSO and PSO2 have? Yes that's true, but every mission on psu looks the same and has the same recycled music with the same reskinned monsters over and over which just feels flat and boring. PSO2 only has 6 areas to explore but all of them are different and unique with a brand new boss (The mines boss is down right nutts in awesomeness PSU has nothing epic like that along with awesome music) Game features?

Any game is eventually going to come to a point of repetition. PSO2 will down the line, and anyone who believes otherwise is an idiot. Obviously there are going to be more enemies in PSO2, but that does not mean it's going to get repetitive at all. What happens when you want an item? You look for it. What happens when you look for it over and over? You run into the same enemies. What happens when you run into the same enemies? Oh look repetition! What about mission hot spots? People are going to do them over and over because it is the best one to do. What happens to the other missions? People no longer play them, and the creatures there are never fought until a new mission comes out with them. What happens to the other mission hot spot? It either gets replaced, or stays the hot spot. What happens if it turns into the new hot spot? The other mission is slowly forgotten about. See what I'm getting at?

Obviously this will not really be a big problem now, seeing as how the game just started. Later on down the road missions will be forgotten about. Repetition, is unavoidable.

PSU's game features dont come even close to PSO2's game features such as options, chat options, friend management, etc etc it has all of PSU's features and many more.

Chat options are poor argument. All you really need is a party chat, public chat, and messaging system. I noticed that there is a chat feature to where you can talk to people even if you're not in the party with them. That's cool and all, but if I am not in a party that means I don't really want to talk to anyone. Simple mails while I am TA'ing (something I do a lot on PSU) annoy the hell out of me. This would be even worse. It's something I don't care for. Is it a good idea? Yes, and I'm sure a lot of people like it, but again it comes down to a matter of opinion.

Controls? PSU doesnt even have mouse support..nuff said about that...

Why would it be needed. There are more than enough buttons on a controller to do what you need to do. I guess mouse support is something it's lacking, but I fail to see how that even comes close to an argument for it.

I mean i'm not even trying to be mean or anything i'm seriously i'm trying see it your way (from a technical stand point) but I can't find anything that makes me say "man I wish pso2 had this feature that psu has.."

I know you're not trying to be mean, and I'm not either, but you sure are forcing the fact that PSO2 is "superior. I thought this thread was made to ask why we are not playing PSO2, not force your opinion on people. When you talk to a group of people who like one thing, you like another, and you start talking about what's superior, expect a negative response to show up. Who knows, I may be the only one who feels this way?

Lets talk about gameplay mechanics. Some people may like the PSU combat style better. I know I do. Some may like PSO2's better. It comes down to a matter of opinion. There is an animation for popping monomates, dimates, and trimates. That's really cools, but isn't being able to pop them instantly more effective? I would say it is, and I'm sure others agree. Obviously they are trying to take a more realistic approach to it, but I don't want to have to stop what I'm doing, and watch my character do the animation. You could argue that other games have animations for potions/food items, but that's just it, it's a different game. Same with PSU vs PSO2. Two different games, with two different play styles. Photon charges, I like each weapon having its own PP bar. Same thing with PSP2/PSP2i, I wish it was something they did not change. Going back to PA disks, that's cool and all, but some people like to level them. What if they could made it to where you can find them and still be able to level them up? Take it from both worlds of the game. Sure, you can buy them, but would it not be better just to use meseta on items, weapons, and armor? I don't know about you, but I don't want to sink all of my meseta into a high level PA, just because I can't find it. All in all, it comes down to a matter of opinion, and preference.

On a side note, I find it weird that you like psu for it's "anime" feel but yet you are waiting for Elder Scrolls Online...Which looks nothing like anime and has that "ugly" western look to it. If anything PSO2 is much more anime than that you know? =P

I like an anime look, but that does not mean I don't like the way other games look. I like the way a lot of games look. Skyrim, Halo, Fallout 3/New Vegas, just to name a few. All of them are different from each other.

[Not Crazed]

I think both games are about equal for me.

PSU has the whole 'level PA to be good' aspect, and that kinda bugged me, but i was prepared to do it.
Then PSO2 comes along, and I'm like 'Screw this! Im gunna play that game! I never have to level PAs again! \o/' and since i did all the PAs on 360, that was quite a relief.... :L
But, after being on PSO2 for a little while, i realised that it was a pain to find all the spells for my techer, let alone at a good level, plus they're so overpriced in the shops!
For this reason i came back to PSU, and im trying to do PAs, but its difficult knowing that i could be playing another PS game, but would never have to level them.

I'm gunna agree with Joel and Midori... The idea of PSO2 is A-M-A-Z-I-N-G but the actual game isn't as good as they made out.

For that reason, PSU is still better in my eyes :3
Crazed

[FlameOfYagami]

Well Nightwolf you basically turned this into an "opinion" based "argument" which is fine because in the end it is a matter of opinion. However I was actually trying to get technical with it and I was trying to point out the technical facts aswell, but you dont seem to be interested in them at all. You quoted me on the "technical level" I don't know if you understand that term or not but the point is that I showed you why the game is TECHNICALLY superior to PSU. That is all I was talking about, not that YOU had to LIKE it because it has shinier graphics lmao that's just silly. So in short I was hoping that you would show me those technical facts that PSU had that made them rival those of PSo2, insted I got "teh graphix d0nTs make teh games gewd!!"

Moving on, I totaly agree with you on "The graphics dont make a game good or fun" I still play my fav Genesis/Mega Drive games on my PC even though they are just lame 2d sprites. They may look terrible now, but they are still fun as hell. Also, nothing would ever top the original Golden Eye no matter how shiny the graphics are ^-^

Anyway's I hope I explained myself a little better now. Anyone here can love PSU and hate or not care about PSO2 but you can't deny that it's technically better and more advance than PSU especially now. Don't let your love for PSU blurr your vision. It's like if I were to say that Halo 1 can rival Halo 4 on a technical level, I would get laughed at, but of course that doesn't necessarily mean that Halo 4 will be a better game because it has shinier graphics and sound so were are talking about two different things here so lets not get them mixed up shall we? ^^

Crazed, getting PA's is not hard at all on PSO2 lol. Plus you can even buy em at lvl 10 (which is currently the highest lvl if i'm not mistaken) for about 20k meseta that's pretty cheap ^^ I don't know if you ever played PSO (Most likely not I assume) but in PSO we didn't lvl up our techs we found them.

In the end of the day though, this game was made for the PSO fans at heart though so of course it's going to be much different from PSU. There's only a select few who dont like it. You guys are in the minority by far, but that's fine i'm not here to judge you or change your opinion especially since I can even relate to you guys cuz I still love PSU ^_^

[leezy]

Right now I got a weak pc,and my internet slow,I really want to jump on pso2,but can't right now

[EvilMag]

I'll list the cons of both PSU and PSO2

PSU
-Grinding is a pain in the *** if you don't use GC.
-1 second delay. I know most of you will say "Its the JP servers, of course you'll get it" well guess what, I played on the US PC servers and even there I got 1 second delay.
-Enemies can be really cheap in later difficulties.
-You need to pay a monthly subscription to get everything even today. Seriously Sega, make the game completely F2P with GC. You're already making a lot of money off GC and with PSU on it's last leg, I think you should consider doing it.
-Events are so OP that it's not even worth playing the game when there is not an event going on.
-Game is so horribly coded. (I can run PSO2 and other games with higher requirements just fine at 60 FPS but not PSU!)
-Game is so mindless.
-Made lazy decisions. (Instead of giving the Humans and Newmans mirage blasts, just give them SUVs.) You guys may like the SUVs, but IMO that's just ******* lazy.
-Hate how PP regenerates very slowly.

Now PSO2

PSO2
-Having to unlock ****. I know in PSO you had to unlock areas in stuff but what PSO2 wants you to do to unlock areas and hard mode is just horse****. To unlock the new areas, you need to beat the free roams in a certain amount of time. That isn't really free IMO.
-Raising Level cap. This is the stupidest idea I ever heard in an RPG. You have to do those Koffie's client order to raise your level cap. You're stuck at 30 if you don't do it. It's a pain in the ******* *** because you need to 90 of each item in Forest, Caves, and desert and the drop rate of the items are so low. It will take you a while just to complete it. I seriously wanna find the person who thought of this idea and ******* punch his throat. YES I MAD.
-AFK *****s. I am really annoyed at these people who don't even play the ******* game and fill up block space. I seriously wish Sega could add in an auto disconnect feature much like with PSO.
-Some of the things you need to pay AC to get is flat out retarded. Get a character slot, get a new mag, reset your skill tree, getting a Scape doll. Look I understand that Sega needs to make money but you don't have to do this **** to make it.
-I hate how when you equip a 7 star+ weapon, it's account bound and there's no way to unbound it.
-Leveling takes ******* forever. I'm doing client orders and farming Emergency codes when the City mission is up and even with that, it's still a pain.
-Raising your mag is also a pain.

Disagree with my cons if you like. I'm sure I'll get a bunch of fanboys telling me "UR FULL OF SHIZ"

[sl1m3y]

i like making characters and to have to pay $15 each time is such a rip off. you shouldnt have to pay for something so basic. alot of what psu did was right imo. paying a monthly fee plus GC was good balance. buying ur pa's and leveling great. buying scapes and. other stuff to run mission with mesata... great. the fact u gotta pay 2 dollars real money for a scape is a huge joke. sega is just suckering people to play that bad game and make more money. when they combine the best of pso2 and psu let me know. til then... diablo 3, guide wars 2, and the elder scroll online are/will be better games

[carby21]

I find PSO2 boring. The combat mechanics aren't fun to me. I like PSU's better. If SEGA tried to learn some things from other games then maybe a PSU2 could be made that would be better. PSU kinda bores me because its just room after room of enemies. To spice it up the blocks shouldn't be so identical. Maybe one block of a forest could be clear and fine but the next on fire and dead animals everywhere. Cities with running civillians and stuff wouldn't be that bad either. Also an annoucer telling you objectives in the missions would help. Maybe Also a better storyline could help things out. The SEED seem so weak. They should be more scary. The looks of creatures should change when they become infected.

[Miss Nina]

I was an ardent PSU fan for years and I didn't think I would like PSO2 much but it turns out that I like the game a lot. This is just my personal opinion like everyone else has stated, but I just find so many improvements that PSO2 made that I would find it difficult to go back and play PSU now. And I haven't spent any money on AC or anything like that but I'm still enjoying the game thoroughly. I do have to say that I missed out on the original PSO though so maybe that's why PSO2 seems fun and exciting. Anyway, everyone is going to have differing opinions on what they prefer. I say as long as you're having fun, play what you want =)

[hiro-wave]

PSU was keeping me away from pso2....i guess ill be on pso2 more because of psu jp closing.

[cugastratos]

My reason for not playing PSO2 yet is because it hasn't been localized in english yet. Until then I'm playing my PSP Phantasy Star games with some other folks.