Why do everybody think Sony will lose the Next gen war?

[Tristan]

Well for one ObiWanShinobi I never called you or anyone else retarded. I said the constant idea for people going "360 isnt gonna be nothing but computer games players" is retarded. Its a stupid pointless stereotype.

Actually, the chance to finally stop playing games on my computer was the only thing that had me interested in the 360 for a while. All I wanted was a mouse and keyboard port for my FPS, RTS and MMORPG needs because I sure wasn't going to play them on a controller.

But as of so far, both systems are getting PC ports. I believe PS3 has at least three, including one my MMORPG community is looking forward to and I was planning it to be one of my first purchases

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/endlesssaga/index.html

[Camron Kosciozko]

Cam. I can look up how many hits both company has. ok But it will take some time. ok I have to look for a car so i be busy. A 16 year old kid hit me. And it can't be fix. Yes I think third parties games is more important then first parties. Look at nintendo. Have great first party games but barely any support from third parties. They would be in first if the first party games matter? Right! I not saying that it won't be any games for xbox but they should be the very last people to stop makeing games for it. To me they showing they don't care about their system and their fans. They quick to stop planning any new games for xbox in 2004. All the first party games that came out was already being made that got delayed or did not get move to xbox360. I'm not saying that first party games matter but show your fans that you care for them to the end of the life of the system. Not leave the system when the system have 2 good years left and let third party carry you for two years. It don't look good for them. It leaves a bad taste and look in the eyes of your fans and third parties. You get what I'm saying Cam.

I get what your saying, and your entilted to your opinion. You obviously dont think its time for a new console because you believe there is still alot of life in the current, and thats fine. Some gamers, and Ms believe its time for the next gen, and if history continues, every 5 years we see the start of a new gen. Maybe Ms shouldnt focus solely on 360 now, and maybe they should. To them, this generation is over. They are supporting xbox still because they had these companies in place to produce games throughout this year, next year, and most likely the first half of 07.

1 thing i cant agree with you on is the fact that you reffer to 3rd partys carrying MS's console as a negative at the end of the cycle, when EVERYONE knows 3rd partys have been carrying Sony for years. Some believe they are still carrying them now. Sony now has some quality 1st party, but Nintendo and Ms are known for more 1st party titles than Sony. We can agree to disagree if u want, or you can ask people on these boards what their opinion is. I'll see what list i can pull up.

[hexblade]

Ok cool. I don't say third party isn't carrying sony. I didn't say they the best first party. They not! I'm just saying don't leave your system to early like that. Show that you supporting your own system. You look at the list of games for it and 99.9% is third party. And it slowly but sure getting move to 360. Look at the tyko game show. I missspelled it sorry. The xbox games was barely there. They say it will have games to 2007 but this rate it's not going to happen.

[ObiWanShinobi]

Well for one ObiWanShinobi I never called you or anyone else retarded. I said the constant idea for people going "360 isnt gonna be nothing but computer games players" is retarded. Its a stupid pointless stereotype.

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Amped 3 (2K Games)

Call of Duty 2 (Activision) (PC)

Condemned (Sega) (multiple)

Dead Or Alive 4 (Tecmo)

Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Bethesda) (PC)

Final Fantasy XI (Microsoft) (PC)

Full Auto (Sega)

Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter (Ubisoft) (PC or alternate version)

Gun (Activision) (PC)

Kameo: Elements of Power (Microsoft)

Madden NFL 06 (EA) (PC)

NBA 2K6 (2K Games) (multi)

NHL 2K6 (2K Games) (multi)

The Outfit (THQ)

Perfect Dark LE (Microsoft)

Project Gotham Racing 3 (Microsoft)

Quake 4 (Activision) (PC)

Ridge Racer 6 (Namco)

Saints Row (THQ)

Tony Hawk's American Wasteland (Activision) (PC)

Top Spin 2 (2K Games)

That is the current lineup of launch for the xbox 360. As you can see, not many games are console exclusive. Compared to the PS3 game lineup, the 360 has more games that are already on PC. That is just a fact.

Sony doesn't even call its new PS3 a console. Its a entertainment device. Which is supposedly hella expensive because of what it can do. I already pointed out the REV also will have PC qualities.
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Like I said I am NOT saying anything about technology. I am talking about games being on systems, and the xbox 360 has the most pc ports of all known games on all known systems. I do not CARE about entertainment systems or downloadable mods, that is NOT the point of what I am saying. I said PC GAME PLAYER, as in it plays a huge percentage of PC GAMES. NOT that is has PC technology or Technology that PARRALLELS that of the PC.

Funny I don't think the majority or games on xbox are on PC. And the ones that are I'll buy them because my PC sucks and I wont spend a huge chunk of change for a PC that works. ITs good people like you put down the fact I might to buy them, or put down the company for offering them to me.
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Well, as it turns out it wasn't a majority, it was more like a good deal of games, or a boatload that you can get better (mods) for the pc.

I actually agree with you, that the xbox 360 pc porting is something good. Some people can only afford to buy an xbox 360 and seven games listed at 1,000, but can't spend 200 dollars to improve their graphics card, 200 for a new processor, and 300 for new speakers or sound card or broadband internet, as well as 300 for new games.

Total seems the same to me.

Sorry you don't understand what I am saying. I am saying that the xbox 360 is a pc game player because a large portion of it's game are on the pc. Take that for you what you will, good AND bad, it is just the closest thing to it.

Hmmm, if you want a GOOD comparison, like sega saturn was an arcade game player for the home. Could that not be the 360?

Also, regardless of what you said, using the term "retard" is low, anyone on these forums is justified in saying it because they were ignorant or stupid, but a moderator, and not just any moderator, but a sega.com moderator? I think you need to give an apology, and NOT to me.

In conclusion, the 360 isn't TOTALLY defined as a pc game player, but given the overwhelming number of games dually available, it is altogether right to assume that the 360 will be a primarily pc game player. Remember Kotor, Halo, and Fable? Those were all hit xbox games that were on pc.

In whatever vein I might've acted like (fanboy, biased person) you can't look at the facts and simply give an opinion to the contrary, that is just..... wrong.

The 360 WILL have totally exclusive games, the 360 WILL have games the pc doesn't. But the 360 DOES have a large number of games that are already on pc, and to me, since I have a good gaming pc, means that the 360 loses credibility to me.

My original topic was to suggest that becuase the 360 is a pc games player, a pc gamer might choose a ps3 or revolution instead due to the 360's pc game support.

That was an opinion based on FACT.